How to make $3k+ per month with Gallery Submitting (10 Steps) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Porko · 02-09-2006, 01:52 PM

nice tips buddy, thank you.

shuki · 02-09-2006, 01:52 PM

missed the second page

Lykos · 02-09-2006, 02:00 PM

Very nice post

Tom_PM · 02-09-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Its acceptable and not misleading... but a surfer wont like it when that exact set or anything close in terms of the quality/style content used may not even be in the members area.

I think it's a very small percentage of surfers who claim they cancelled or complain that they dont see the same quality as in a sample gallery from an affiliate's free page.

Out and out false advertising is another story though.

Plus lets face it, if more affiliates were concerned with retention, then more would use revshare links on tgp traffic. Every gallery submitter who uses revshare, raise your hand

dissipate · 02-09-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think it's a very small percentage of surfers who claim they cancelled or complain that they dont see the same quality as in a sample gallery from an affiliate's free page.

Out and out false advertising is another story though.

Plus lets face it, if more affiliates were concerned with retention, then more would use revshare links on tgp traffic. Every gallery submitter who uses revshare, raise your hand

I make about 15-20% of my monthly affiliate income from recurring programs.

Paul&John · 02-09-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think it's a very small percentage of surfers who claim they cancelled or complain that they dont see the same quality as in a sample gallery from an affiliate's free page.

Out and out false advertising is another story though.

Plus lets face it, if more affiliates were concerned with retention, then more would use revshare links on tgp traffic. Every gallery submitter who uses revshare, raise your hand

PPS on galleries, revshare just doesn't works

ronbotx · 02-09-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by opulence

where are the klikrevenue d00ds?

they respond in every thread except the one that could possibly help them upgrade from just being sigwhores...

Thanks for the post by the way

The Klikwhores aren't here becuase submitting requires lots of effort and hard work.... something they don't like to do. I would suspect many of the klikwhores are failures at submitting, TGPs....etc. Spamming is the only thing thats left.

Excellent post...

Lee · 02-09-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Then maybe sponsors should consider offering licenses for sale to affiliates, then they can just download the entire members areas

They want to anyway. Those licenses aren't cheap.

As an affiliate there is no way on Earth I would pay to use your content to promote you.

p.s. 70-80% of my income is revshare (varies slightly month to month)

Fucksakes · 02-09-2006, 04:57 PM

only 3000 a month crap, just when I thought I was having a hard time.. no wonder everyone makes fun of gallery submitters.

Huggles · 02-09-2006, 05:02 PM

There is no money in submitting.

Tom_PM · 02-09-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee

As an affiliate there is no way on Earth I would pay to use your content to promote you.

p.s. 70-80% of my income is revshare (varies slightly month to month)

Of course, nobody would

There was a time when I did galleries and got pre-released content. I'd have galleries built and submitted within 30 minutes of getting it, and I'd be rejected because the content was already used from someone else who had it pre-released to them too. Sometimes I'd get in, sometimes they would. Fresh and non-repeated content was what tgp's wanted.

Just surprising that 50 thousand affiliates can use sponsor content and make anything is all I've been getting at.

xomei · 02-12-2006, 02:25 PM

I make 600k a month submitting galleries

Ron2k1 · 02-12-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Gallery submitting has definitely become a full-time job in and of itself.

Back in oh, say 2000 to 2004 or so I could bang out a gallery in the morning, hand submit it (for free) to 50-60 TGPs well before noon, and see it get 50-250k uniques to it for 1-3 days, and make 5-15 sales off it.

But I got into other areas of the business and eventually my submitting mostly dropped by the wayside. Only so many hours in the day and I tent to prioritize where my time is spent.

Recently I added up the partner account fees of several of the tgp's that were on my old submit list from back then and it was close to $1000 bucks a month just for the privilege of submitting to them.

Times have sure changed.

Yes I exactly agree with this, there is also a good thing about those paid submit passes; it weeds out a lot of clueless newbies. And most submit passes are not that expensive, depending on the size of the TGP.

Most passes are about $ 25 - $ 50 a month, those TGP's are listing me every day and sending hundreds of thousands of visitors.

hjnet · 02-13-2006, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think it's a very small percentage of surfers who claim they cancelled or complain that they dont see the same quality as in a sample gallery from an affiliate's free page.

Out and out false advertising is another story though.

Plus lets face it, if more affiliates were concerned with retention, then more would use revshare links on tgp traffic. Every gallery submitter who uses revshare, raise your hand

I make 95% of my affiliate income with refshare, normaly I'd like to make ~50% with PPS, and the other half with refshare, but somehow it didn't work that way during the last years :-)

hjnet · 02-13-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Gallery submitting has definitely become a full-time job in and of itself.

Back in oh, say 2000 to 2004 or so I could bang out a gallery in the morning, hand submit it (for free) to 50-60 TGPs well before noon, and see it get 50-250k uniques to it for 1-3 days, and make 5-15 sales off it.

But I got into other areas of the business and eventually my submitting mostly dropped by the wayside. Only so many hours in the day and I tent to prioritize where my time is spent.

Recently I added up the partner account fees of several of the tgp's that were on my old submit list from back then and it was close to $1000 bucks a month just for the privilege of submitting to them.

Times have sure changed.

Yes, a lot of things has changed, but I don't think that it's more difficult compared to when I started with gallery submitting. A few years you'd have to spend money for content and hosting, now you'd have to spend it for software, DBs, and maybe paid Spots/partner accounts.

sfera · 02-13-2006, 07:35 AM

you mean 300 per month

hjnet · 02-13-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Porko

nice tips buddy, thank you.

where's woj?

ilbb · 02-13-2006, 09:32 AM

Hello guy, thanks for great tips...

Axeman · 02-13-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I'd only rely on free content if a site was a home grown or exclusive type site, or shot it themselves.

You know nearly every day I get people asking me for a members pass "So I can download content", and every day I tell them that the free content we have is in the free content section, and not only is there no affiliate-use license for the members area content, but we dont intend to give away every stitch of content leaving no reason to join the paysite..

In general, people need to ween themselves off of free content IMHO, not use it more than ever! Go to the next level already. Get on a content deal from a shooter/provider and you'll see more conversions from that vast majority of repeat surfers who've seen it all before.

Try using a free content pic in a custom gallery header or graphic element to get the flow from gallery to tour, instead of relying on the same 10 sets that everyone and their dog has used for the last year.

I really think that if people find themselves in a rut on conversions, try some fresh content. Because if you join a program today, chances are that every single piece of content has been used multiple times already on every TGP and MGP and Link List on the 'net already. USE it, but dont RELY on it is what I'm saying.

Also, this is why I tell people who ask me about it, to choose content FIRST, then find a site that fits well with the content, not the other way around. You dont want to jam a square peg into a round hole. Shop for content and be thinking what site it might work well with. You dont have to promise on every page "see more of this model inside paysite", but "see more like this" is acceptable and not misleading.

Anyway sorry to ramble on in your thread. I just think that if more people get back to buying content, that they'd see conversions and listings get better. Nobody wants a surfer to click and say "saw that 5 times yesterday" and click back.

I agree with this. Especially true of sites that don't have endless content like Karups, Twistys, ATK. There is a reason to have a free content section, and not just giving affiliates memebers area passwords upfront.

I've always done better with galleries when I use my own content as its fresh to the surfer.

hjnet · 02-13-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

I agree with this. Especially true of sites that don't have endless content like Karups, Twistys, ATK. There is a reason to have a free content section, and not just giving affiliates memebers area passwords upfront.

I've always done better with galleries when I use my own content as its fresh to the surfer.

it always depends what a sponsor has to offer, if they have a very good site, and only very limited content for everybody I'd also buy content to promote it.

In a perfect world we all would just use teaser/softcore content, and nobody would use 20sec 2MB+clips, and we all would be happy about better conversion rates. But the adult industy isn't organized good enough to make that happen, so we life more by the rule "what can be done, will be done"

Rui · 02-13-2006, 01:47 PM

Good thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

Not bad at all. Excpect 1000 new submitters after reading this.

Expect out of those 1000:

800 - to read the thread and get all hyped and no do shit;
100 - make one gallery and give up after a week;
90 - go on during the first month and give up;
8 - actualy go on for 6 months or so but never make a decent amount of money;
2 - actualy succeed

thats GFY

FlyingIguana · 02-13-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Also, this is why I tell people who ask me about it, to choose content FIRST, then find a site that fits well with the content, not the other way around. You dont want to jam a square peg into a round hole. Shop for content and be thinking what site it might work well with. You dont have to promise on every page "see more of this model inside paysite", but "see more like this" is acceptable and not misleading.

i dont agree with that at all. finding a good sponsor is 100x more difficult than finding good content. with the proper niche you can use not so good content and still make excellent ratios just as you would with better quality content.

FlyingIguana · 02-13-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

PPS on galleries, revshare just doesn't works

it does on quality sites. you should make 30/sale, but it will take a couple months to get the money per sale. most revshare sites do suck tho.

FlyingIguana · 02-13-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee

As an affiliate there is no way on Earth I would pay to use your content to promote you.

p.s. 70-80% of my income is revshare (varies slightly month to month)

i'd pay for access to sets that arent overpromoted and updated very regularly. it would take some extra work from the sponsors end to make it work, but the current free content system is horrible.

hjnet · 02-14-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

Good thread

Expect out of those 1000:

800 - to read the thread and get all hyped and no do shit;
100 - make one gallery and give up after a week;
90 - go on during the first month and give up;
8 - actualy go on for 6 months or so but never make a decent amount of money;
2 - actualy succeed

thats GFY

Somebody told me once that out of 100 new business adventures, 90 will fail within the first 5 years, and 95 within the first 10 years. That pretty much sums it up considering that years=months in the online biz.

Tempest · 02-14-2006, 12:59 AM

Be a gallery submitting pimp!!! More tips here!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=575752

hjnet · 02-14-2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Be a gallery submitting pimp!!! More tips here!!

And you really don't have anything better to do with your time?

Tempest · 02-14-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

And you really don't have anything better to do with your time?

That was from 2004, I was bored and pissed off. Sometimes I write in order to blow of steam as opposed to doing drugs, drinking, mouthing off on boards etc. etc. etc.

Why did you write yours? Don't YOU have better things to do with your time? Cuts both ways man.

<edit>ahhhh.. I see your sig.. Now I see.. It's to whore your business as opposed to some altruistic reason.</edit>

Witzak · 02-14-2006, 02:44 AM

nice post! thx a lot

hjnet · 02-14-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

<edit>ahhhh.. I see your sig.. Now I see.. It's to whore your business as opposed to some altruistic reason.</edit>

I'm only here for business, but my business is based on creating win-win situations for me and my clients, so when I'm posing advice you can be assured that it's good advice. And my payment would be some exposure for my products.

Playa-Deak · 02-14-2006, 05:07 AM

*Subscribes*

Quotealex · 02-15-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

only 3000 a month crap, just when I thought I was having a hard time.. no wonder everyone makes fun of gallery submitters.

It's not bad for a few hours a day job IMO.

This is one of the best tutorial I read in a long time.

hjnet · 02-16-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

It's not bad for a few hours a day job IMO.

This is one of the best tutorial I read in a long time.

Thanks, normaly it should be much bigger to have everything important covered, but I think nobody would read it then

hjnet · 02-21-2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

A few more suggestions:

A: SEO your galleries with page titles, metas, text and ALT tags.

B: When submitting don't use an average name like Bob, Ryan, Michael etc etc. The reason being, once a webmaster recognizes your name over and over again, he will be more likely to accept your galleries.

C: Create your own TGP and MGP. This allows you to network and maybe trade Pas. Send all your 404 traffic here to help build your sites. You donhahaha8217;t have to spend hours on your site, but having one does open doors to other site owners.

Good additions, especially C is an important one I've forgotten to add.

reed_4 · 02-21-2006, 02:19 AM

very nice and helpful post. thanks for the tips guys.

hjnet · 02-22-2006, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

It's not bad for a few hours a day job IMO.

This is one of the best tutorial I read in a long time.

Thanks, I also see gallery submitting as one of the things every adult webmasters should do every know and then. Lot's of competition to learn from

hjnet · 02-24-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman

I agree with this. Especially true of sites that don't have endless content like Karups, Twistys, ATK. There is a reason to have a free content section, and not just giving affiliates memebers area passwords upfront.

I've always done better with galleries when I use my own content as its fresh to the surfer.

Just because I'm curious, what kind of content do you supply for the program in your sig, the sites look rather good, and I'm actually hunting for new sponsors

Sexkitty · 02-27-2006, 06:30 AM

nice post!

Terry · 02-27-2006, 07:35 AM

Great thread. Thanks for sharing!

strobi · 02-27-2006, 07:48 AM

Nice article! If you need cheap dedicated servers to submit, see siggy!

hjnet · 03-03-2006, 06:54 AM

Bump

polle54 · 03-03-2006, 07:28 AM

great article but submitting is too boring and I don't feel like having a submitter under me

hjnet · 03-07-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by polle54

great article but submitting is too boring and I don't feel like having a submitter under me

Hiring a fulltime submitter was one of the best decisions I made lately, so maybe you should try it too...

hjnet · 03-08-2006, 11:26 AM

Bump for a great tutorial

Violetta · 03-08-2006, 11:40 AM

thanks for the info... glad to see posts like this

Ramos · 03-08-2006, 11:53 AM

Great Thread............

MrLeone · 03-08-2006, 12:43 PM

Excellent writing!
I find it very interesting!

Echo · 03-08-2006, 01:08 PM

nice tutorial

hjnet · 03-09-2006, 10:19 AM

Thanks everybody

CyberHustler · 03-09-2006, 10:34 AM

good looks for the tips

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