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Old 02-24-2006, 06:06 PM   #1
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new abby winters program

i know how much everybody here loves abby winters, but it looks like she's changing her program around and paying rebills now. you can read about it and see their written contract dealie, a draft at least, on her webmaster page.

a friend of mine told me that apparently she's got some new guy running the program now, and apparently he's only a partial dickwad, but is like totally in love with his writing or something.

aside from the usual asshats who won't let go of the 2003 incident and always dredge it out of google cache, am wondering if this is any good or if the site converts worth a shit.
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Old 02-24-2006, 06:15 PM   #2
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what was the 2003 incident?

i never tried the site, i was going to promote it and saw they dont pay rebills and laughed as i was exiting the site.
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:55 AM   #3
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the 2003 incident was a deal where she talked about how to clear cookies and explained how the affiliate system worked. she's since taken the thread down off her site, but people here still hate her for it.
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:27 AM   #4
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the 2003 incident was a deal where she talked about how to clear cookies and explained how the affiliate system worked.
I presume you mean it was explained to surfer members?
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:31 AM   #5
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http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulle...ead.php?t=2182

"My main problem with the affs, is that I work my arse off 80, 90 hours a week to make the site as best as I possibly can. The staff I employ work hard as well, and they care about the site too. Yet I have to give away HALF of my gross to some lazy (six to ten hours a week's work) guys who make a few web pages with MY images, and post them on the net!?

Hardly seems fair...

But to look at it from their side, they know the places and ways to post these pages of my images for the most amount of sales - that honestly does takes time and experience. And, some - they argue most - of their joins would never have found my site, and incrementally, it does not cost me much to add a member to the site... so it's income I'd be otherwise missing out on.

I don't pay out rebills"
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:38 AM   #6
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I don't understand why she would offer an affiliate program and then bash the people sending her joins. If paying 50% gross of the initial signup is "too much," close your affiliate program.
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:40 AM   #7
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I don't understand why she would offer an affiliate program and then bash the people sending her joins. If paying 50% gross of the initial signup is "too much," close your affiliate program.
word, what an ungrateful bitch.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:02 PM   #8
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word, what an ungrateful bitch.
I, for one will not promote her site. I used to have a decent relationship with Abby back in the late 90's to early '00 and then for some reason she got to the point where she was very curt and bitchy so I stopped talking to her all together. About 2 weeks ago a female webmaster friend was having some challenges and I though that Abby might be able to guide her since the problem was one that Abby had faced years ago and so I contacted her on ICQ and all I got was a "Why should I help you?" reply so Abby Winters, her site and her program can do without my participation.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:14 PM   #9
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http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulle...ead.php?t=2182

"My main problem with the affs, is that I work my arse off 80, 90 hours a week to make the site as best as I possibly can. The staff I employ work hard as well, and they care about the site too. Yet I have to give away HALF of my gross to some lazy (six to ten hours a week's work) guys who make a few web pages with MY images, and post them on the net!?

Hardly seems fair...

But to look at it from their side, they know the places and ways to post these pages of my images for the most amount of sales - that honestly does takes time and experience. And, some - they argue most - of their joins would never have found my site, and incrementally, it does not cost me much to add a member to the site... so it's income I'd be otherwise missing out on.

I don't pay out rebills"

Looks like she did a great job of taking that thread down.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:26 AM   #10
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Looks like she did a great job of taking that thread down.
What an asshat.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:44 AM   #11
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I agree with her. I mean I spend 80 hours a week working my ass off on my sites. Then I have to fucking pay for things like hosting, advertising, employees, and supplies. After that, I don't make nearly as much as I would have if these greedy bastards didn't need their cut.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:11 AM   #12
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the bitch aint worth promoting.
Just few months ago she requested all her galleries taken down for
some shitty reason.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:18 AM   #13
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It's kind of sad. That site is actually one of the best adult sites on the web, no kidding.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:38 AM   #14
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word of the day "Asshat"

tomorrow it will be (from One Tree Hill) "AssBoobies"
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