Splogs and Google's AdSense - GoFuckYourself.com

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 07:51 PM

There are literally hundreds of thousands of spam blogs (Splogs) out there using something like rss2blog to automate them. Does anyone know if Google has been terminating AdSense accounts because of splogging or if there are any plans to do so? I can't help but think that Google will have to do something to combat the practice but how far will they go?

chadglni · 02-25-2006, 07:51 PM

It's against TOS so I'm sure if they get big enough they will be slapped down.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

It's against TOS so I'm sure if they get big enough they will be slapped down.

Is it? What part of the TOS does it violate?

pornguy · 02-25-2006, 07:52 PM

there have been a lot of tech articles about this. I think that indeedhits has a few of them.

chadglni · 02-25-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Is it? What part of the TOS does it violate?

There are a few clauses in the TOS that they could use to shut these down. One that comes to mind off hand is putting up webpages with the primary reason being to display adsense.

czarina · 02-25-2006, 08:00 PM

my question is: is rss2blogs worth the $297?
How much time do you really save?

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

my question is: is rss2blogs worth the $297?
How much time do you really save?

Maybe I don't get it but I can't see any reason to have it unless you are wanting to create a splog network. Blog systems like Wordpress allow you to schedule posts. If you are creating a legit blog, I can't see any use for it at all.

Spider Ninja · 02-25-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

There are a few clauses in the TOS that they could use to shut these down. One that comes to mind off hand is putting up webpages with the primary reason being to display adsense.

hmmm...well, isn't that why 90% of people build sites

OzMan · 02-25-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Maybe I don't get it but I can't see any reason to have it unless you are wanting to create a splog network. Blog systems like Wordpress allow you to schedule posts. If you are creating a legit blog, I can't see any use for it at all.

To echo Spider Ninja's post, if your definition of "a legit blog" is one that you spend hours updating manually each day, has zero ads and whose purpose is to spread the word on human rights abuse in Tibet etc then...no, you don't need any automation tools like rss2blog.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

To echo Spider Ninja's post, if your definition of "a legit blog" is one that you spend hours updating manually each day, has zero ads and whose purpose is to spread the word on human rights abuse in Tibet etc then...no, you don't need any automation tools like rss2blog.

That still doesn't explain how rss2blog can help me. I intend to write original content. I don't see the need to "import" anything. Why would I need rss2blog?

freesexxwebsite · 02-25-2006, 08:41 PM

most of the 30k to 50k monthly adsense earners are spogers only.

chadglni · 02-25-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by freesexxwebsite

most of the 30k to 50k monthly adsense earners are spogers only.

Thank you for running a survey and letting us in on the results.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Thank you for running a survey and letting us in on the results.

77.325% of all stats are made up on the spot. Didn't you know?

$5 submissions · 02-25-2006, 08:44 PM

They DO terminate you if you use blogger.com to splog. Also, if you're overly aggressive re areas you promote your autoblogs, you get banned.

QuaWee · 02-25-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by freesexxwebsite

most of the 30k to 50k monthly adsense earners are spogers only.

wth are "spogers"?

Thumbler · 02-25-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

wth are "spogers"?

People who are one l off a sploger perhaps?

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

They DO terminate you if you use blogger.com to splog. Also, if you're overly aggressive re areas you promote your autoblogs, you get banned.

Have you ever heard of someone who has their own domains getting their Adsense account terminated? What would you consider as being overly aggressive?

OzMan · 02-25-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

That still doesn't explain how rss2blog can help me. I intend to write original content. I don't see the need to "import" anything. Why would I need rss2blog?

If you have enough time to manually post or schedule posts to all your blogs you don't need it. rss2blog is useful when you want to set up many blogs on autopilot, using your own content or scraped news, search or rss feeds from the web.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

If you have enough time to manually post or schedule posts to all your blogs you don't need it. rss2blog is useful when you want to set up many blogs on autopilot, using your own content or scraped news, search or rss feeds from the web.

...and we're back to my original question. If you are running many blogs on autopilot using scraped news then you are a splogger. Why would a legitimate blogger need rss2blog? I keep hearing things like "it's awesome" and "it's a necessity, buy it now" but aside from splogging why would I need it?

Pleasurepays · 02-25-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Have you ever heard of someone who has their own domains getting their Adsense account terminated? What would you consider as being overly aggressive?

dude, google is not a government company. its a free service. you don't have to participate and they don't have to allow you to participate. "overly agressive" and "fair" have nothing to do with anything.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dude, google is not a government company. its a free service. you don't have to participate and they don't have to allow you to participate. "overly agressive" and "fair" have nothing to do with anything.

Huh? What are you babbling about?

$5 submissions · 02-25-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Have you ever heard of someone who has their own domains getting their Adsense account terminated? What would you consider as being overly aggressive?

Overly aggressive = fully automated comment marketing (others call it comment spamming), fully automated link swaps, ref spamming (the original method is dying but there's probably newer methods), yahoo/google/?? site groups/distribution channels, dbase stuffing, linkdumps, ezines, etc etc you name it. There's TONS of ways to promote blogs/sites on the Internet, just follow the following rule from webmasterlabor.com's guerilla traffic department

sharing CONTENT/opinon/discussion = not spam

automated crap with no regard for content = spam

Other's dont' agree but I guess we can always agree to disagree. Just my opinion and experience, others' mileage may vary. One thing we can agree on though... TRAFFIC IS KEY.

monkeysnap · 02-25-2006, 09:07 PM

I use RSS2Blog for a bunch of sites and only a few of them use pure scraped RSS. There are many ways to use it, you just have to be creative.

Spider Ninja · 02-25-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Overly aggressive = fully automated comment marketing (others call it comment spamming), fully automated link swaps, ref spamming (the original method is dying but there's probably newer methods), yahoo/google/?? site groups/distribution channels, dbase stuffing, linkdumps, ezines, etc etc you name it. There's TONS of ways to promote blogs/sites on the Internet

w00t...I need to see the white paper for this one

Pleasurepays · 02-25-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Huh? What are you babbling about?

your dumb remarks and questions.

Spider Ninja · 02-25-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

sharing CONTENT/opinon/discussion = not spam

automated crap with no regard for content = spam

I agree here...all depends on what you do

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Overly aggressive = fully automated comment marketing (others call it comment spamming), fully automated link swaps, ref spamming (the original method is dying but there's probably newer methods), yahoo/google/?? site groups/distribution channels, dbase stuffing, linkdumps, ezines, etc etc you name it. There's TONS of ways to promote blogs/sites on the Internet, just follow the following rule from webmasterlabor.com's guerilla traffic department

sharing CONTENT/opinon/discussion = not spam

automated crap with no regard for content = spam

Other's dont' agree but I guess we can always agree to disagree. Just my opinion and experience, others' mileage may vary. One thing we can agree on though... TRAFFIC IS KEY.

Sweet, thanks! I'll be honest, I have been looking at splogging for quite some time and have been reading it. It seems like google's adsense policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies) are highly subjective especially this one:

"No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant."

That one in particular makes me nervous. If I were to make maybe 20 blogs that automatically snag news from a few different sources and post them a couple of times a day I would clearly be splogging but would Google care? I'm about to find out I guess.

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

your dumb remarks and questions.

MY dumb remarks? Get lost, son. The grown-ups are talking business.

$5 submissions · 02-25-2006, 09:15 PM

Email me at info AT webmasterlabor DOT com. I may have a service package that might put a BIG SMILE on your face

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Sweet, thanks! I'll be honest, I have been looking at splogging for quite some time and have been reading it. It seems like google's adsense policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies) are highly subjective especially this one:

"No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant."

That one in particular makes me nervous. If I were to make maybe 20 blogs that automatically snag news from a few different sources and post them a couple of times a day I would clearly be splogging but would Google care? I'm about to find out I guess.

OzMan · 02-25-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

...and we're back to my original question...

and we're back to the correct definitions of "legitimate blogger" and "splogger"

Here's mine:

"legitimate blogger"

anyone who blogs

"splogger"

anyone who blogs to make money

I use rss2blog and other tools to auto update many blogs with mostly my own content that appears to be manually created. I make money doing this. I wouldn't have the time to do this manually. Some people manually nurture a handful of blogs and do just fine as well. I do that with my largest ones.

Feel free to call me a splogger if it makes you happy. Just don't call me a New Zealander or insult my family and all will be well. Good Night

Spider Ninja · 02-25-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I have been looking at splogging for quite some time and have been reading it.

hey bro, just remember that google = #1 splogger

afterall, who runs blogger and adsense?

Babaganoosh · 02-25-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

and we're back to the correct definitions of "legitimate blogger" and "splogger"

Here's mine:

"legitimate blogger"

anyone who blogs

"splogger"

anyone who blogs to make money

I use rss2blog and other tools to auto update many blogs with mostly my own content that appears to be manually created. I make money doing this. I wouldn't have the time to do this manually. Some people manually nurture a handful of blogs and do just fine as well. I do that with my largest ones.

Feel free to call me a splogger if it makes you happy. Just don't call me a New Zealander or insult my family and all will be well. Good Night

Then I too am a splogger. It sounds like we have similar things going. I have a couple of blogs that are well written and not automated in the slightest. I'm also working on a network of splogs. I just hope I can always find a way to monetize the traffic on my fully automated blogs in the event adsense kicks me to the curb.

erehwon · 02-25-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Email me at info AT webmasterlabor DOT com. I may have a service package that might put a BIG SMILE on your face

Gene rocks!

Kevsh · 02-25-2006, 11:59 PM

Splogs are reason #1 why I turn off the Content Network in any campaign I run - only run through Google and it's international sites. Everything else on their ad network is questionable.

They do offer an option to not have your ads shown on specific sites ... but first you have to find ALL the sites in their network your ad may show on. Good luck and they won't help you.

monkeysnap · 02-26-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Splogs are reason #1 why I turn off the Content Network in any campaign I run - only run through Google and it's international sites. Everything else on their ad network is questionable.

Why would you turn off AdWords on splogs? Splogs get search traffic, and if someone lands there and then clicks your ad, why would you not want that? I don't advertise in the content network because of idiots who actually DO run their sites and ask their visitors to click the ads to make them money.

When people click after being asked, it wastes advertisers' money. When people click after landing on a page they found from the search engines, that's the whole reason to use AdWords.

I just find your logic a bit curious is all.

FleshJoe2005 · 02-26-2006, 01:32 PM

Google needs splogs. They make Google a ton of money. Unless someone complains its "look the other way and take the money".

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