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sickkittens · 03-06-2006, 01:57 PM

50 questions for Will

nofx · 03-06-2006, 03:08 PM

bumpadfasfdasdfasfd

will76 · 03-06-2006, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

So like I been promoting these bastards for what 7 years now..

I look at my credit card info online the other day and see this $29.99
charge from them.. I'm like wtf??? I bought that stupid $6.95/m crap just so
once in every 9 years I can login and see what is available to promote
But wtf is this shit? So I email them right, ugh yeah you frauded me,
refund that shit..

So this morning I read my email, says they took care of it.

I go to log in my stats, account invalid

They TOS'd me, steal the weekly earnings (not sure how much but i usually have about 20 downline sales, and 4-10 regulars per week) and shut me down completely

WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLE SCAM RAPERS

ANYONE WHO PROMOTES THESE COCK SUCKERS IS A FOOL!

AND WATCH YOUR FUCKING MONTHLIES!

OH YEAH, CHECK YOUR FUCKING INCOME TAX 10-99's THEY LOVE TO RAPE YOU ON THAT ADDING 10-20k ON IT DID THAT TO ME LAST YEAR!!!

FUCK YOU CLICK CASH!

I guess i am a fool then.

Have you spoke to anyone yet? I will pass the information along and have them look into this. If you cancel your ifriends membership you will not lose your clickcash account. The two are not related, Unless if you were using our creditcard to get ifriends signups, then by charging it back, you may have been creating a fraud risk for your clickcash account. Where is the 29$ from, was it a Fan Club membership, time spent with a chathost??? feels like information is being left out of this one.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

oh actually now that i remember, i never did get my $50 signup bonus....
and that email was never responded too!

you said you were promoting them for 7 years, you just remembered not getting a $50 signup bonus from them 7 years ago. Where they offering a signup bonus that long ago.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumbking

how long does it take for checks to come?

I have been waiting for the sales from the first week of Jan.06.

you most likely did not read the TOS when you signed up and saw that you are suppose to send in a webmaster agreement form. contact me if you need the link.

HizAzPhun · 03-06-2006, 05:08 PM

Everytime you test an ifriends link you set a PERMANANT COOKIE on your computer, you probably signed up under you own account and didn't even know it.

teksonline · 03-06-2006, 08:17 PM

has nothig to do with it, when i said refund the mysterious 29.99 charge on my account, they closed my Click Cash account via ToS violation, and email states they did NOT close my account, that I logged in and closed it.. Which is BS

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

never had the problem, of course i send quality traffic for many years...

my signups get less, and my webmaster referrals have all dropped from
4.00 to .04 though, that has always rung a bell

lets see you send quality signups so they wanted to terminate you because you were making them too much money, that makes a lot of sense. How did they ever make it 10 years in business with that kind of strategy?

FYI.... when you refer someone, you make 10% of what they make. So if they make $40, you make $4.

If that same person refers someone else and they make 1 signup, then he makes $4.00 and you make 10% of what they make so you make .40 .

Do you understand, you are accusing them of frauding your downline sales and you can't even read how their affiliate program works, wonder if your other problem with them was something you didn't do right or you jumped the gun instead of finding out first what really happened.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Temp1

It is pretty obvious that anyone defending clickcash has his own agenda. It's a joke when I read read sorry posts defending the business practices of clickcash, not the least of which is their obvious, blatant shaving. The most insulting was when someone was trying to imply that 'shaving doesn't really matter, it's the money you make', a thinly veiled clickcash shill. This latest gripe, as disgusting as it, doesn't surprise me coming from clickcash.

yada yada yada

i got one word for you, you r eady...

baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

if your post had an ounce of intelligence to it I would actually reply back with something thoughtfull. Like the hidden agenda of all the people who support clickcash that don't have it in their sig, or make any money from their endorsement, what is their hidden agenda, create more competition. but I don't want to "insult" you with my post, so you can just look at my sheep pic and feel good about yourself, you got it all figured out.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCat

They pay out weekly & the checks come very quickly. That's about the only thing I can say to vouch for them. They haven't updated their affiliate program or marketing materials in years. From a surfer standpoint, it's even more confusing.

not sure what you are trying to say here, but if their affiliate area is confusing for a surfer, i don't think they care, surfers aren't going to be making money using clickcash? or did you mean somethign else there ?

and you saying the checks come very quickly, you must be a shill, what is your hidden agenda

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

This is not to disagree with your post but to show my personal evaluation of PPS vs. revshare.

Seeing as how webcam sites can have a customer lifetime value of $700 or more, then even at a bare minimum 10% revshare model you would make an avg. of $70 per sign-up.

Considering the sliding scales most use (both PPS and revshare) then, say, 35% - the max revshare for this example - would bring you $245 over the lifetime of the customer. There is no PPS cam program that I know of that will pay more than $100 per-sign up ... and if you get a great deal or are extra special, even $200 PPS would net you less in the long run.

So while you get more up-front, like you suggest, in the end there is no comparison with a good, converting cam program - and a high payout % obviously helps!

Another advantage for revshare is that even if the huge majority of your traffic comes from one site, and something catastrophic happens to it, you can still be earning money for months (even years) while with PPS, essentially, once you stop sending traffic your income will vanish almost entirely, and much quicker.

you are nuts. for so many reasons from your post, but if you or anyone else wants me to point out where you are wrong I will... but i am not going to waste my breath if no one wants to listen anway, so please ask if you want to know where you are wrong.

High Quality · 03-06-2006, 10:50 PM

I remember a few years back ARS fucked up their 1099's. That was some serious shit in a BIG way.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

You should be a lot more concerned about the agenda of those knocking ClickCash...

I have been in this business since April '96. When I do recommend a sponsor, I rarely include a referral code. I haven't the slightest interest in being whatever passes for "cool" on this board. Etc. Etc. Good luck at finding even the sniff of any agenda.

I began promoting ClickCash a few weeks after they started. Just once in all those years they had a problem with their bank: I called and they replaced 2 checks, delivering them by Fedex. That is the only issue I have ever had with them and not by any stretch of the imagination am I an important affiliate.

As to sales, from 1997-2000 I made a lot more money promoting revshare cam services. As the market attracted more sponsors and affiliates, the "whales" became fewer and further between: ClickCash came into their own and although I don't see the money I once did (lots of factors there, most due to my own circumstances), CC are still the most consistent webcam earner for me.

Anyone who gets taken in by all the negative posts should reflect that any program paying $40-$80 per signup is going to attract scammers. It's also tough for all those who don't bother to read TOS that CC enforce their's (reminds me of a board owner we all know who used to take a lot of flack for doing the same thing with his program and for a long time was reluctant to admit mistakes were sometimes made). It is highly unlikely CC never make a mistake and they can be criticised for the unrelenting way they handle this aspect of their business. But the way most complaining posts are written make it pretty obvious the writers are just p*ssed at getting caught.

Granted, CC provide next to nothing in the way of useful promo material (at least not from a single convenient area), but how many people using those big iframes make enough money to justify that much real estate? You have to find your own way to make the most from cams, no matter who you promote.

I couldn't care less whether someone promotes iFriends or who the heck ever. But webmasters who post BS attempting to hurt CC, if they have any impact at all, are more likely to hurt other webmasters by persuading them to promote someone they might not earn as well from. It's not even impossible that's the reason for some of the negative posts.

great post, i couldn't agree with you more. But my opinion means nothing because i have an 'agenda".

Oh look this is post #4 or 5 of people with no clickcash link in their sig who is backing them up and who have used them for years with no problems. What do we know?

will76 · 03-06-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

The only address I ever use is support at clickcash and I have always recieved replies, usually within a few hours.

the reason a lot of people likely don't hear back from them is because it says in the TOS, if you ask a question that is on the FAQ's page, then we will not reply to you. How many of you people actually read? I bet 9 out of 10 of the times they don't get back to you, your questions could be answered on their site. I don't blame them for doing this, you have 1000' of people emailing asking questions like, when do i get my check, do you pay epassporte, etc... i know i got a ton of those just from people who signed up under me. How hard is it to read. I got tired of answering the same questions over and over too.... read the tos, read the faq, then contact them.

Young · 03-06-2006, 10:58 PM

I see the spin has started. At least you waited a day or two for the thread to calm down a little and for the flaming to subside. They should pay you well.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

has nothig to do with it, when i said refund the mysterious 29.99 charge on my account, they closed my Click Cash account via ToS violation, and email states they did NOT close my account, that I logged in and closed it.. Which is BS

How did they even know you had a clickcash account? why would they even think this or ask you this. it makes no sense. You think every person who calls up about a ifriends charge is asked, "do you have a clickcash account", come on it makes no sense. If they connected the 2 together it was because you did something to connect it for them, like use your personal credit card for your affiliate account, how else would they know, explain that to me !!!!

will76 · 03-06-2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young

I see the spin has started. At least you waited a day or two for the thread to calm down a little and for the flaming to subside. They should pay you well.

spin.... ? come on you spoke up. please explain to me where i am spinning this. Anyone can make a jackass 2cent comment, lets see you back it up with some thought. Please explain how what i am saying is not logical, but just spin.

Young · 03-06-2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

spin.... ? come on you spoke up. please explain to me where i am spinning this. Anyone can make a jackass 2cent comment, lets see you back it up with some thought. Please explain how what i am saying is not logical, but just spin.

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok?

chadglni · 03-06-2006, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok?

The average startup program on GFY has a few hundred affiliates. Clickcash has 10's of thousands counting their models. Even people that don't promote anything else promote clickcash. Of course you see more people bitching because there are way more people potentially breaking TOS.

Add to the fact that clickcash will terminate your account as soon as they see you violate their rules and do not defend themselves when someone claims foul play. Anytime a webmaster screams about another company on here the owner or rep usually responds with all of the proof that that webmaster cheated. Clickcash just stays quiet and continues to pay those who follow the rules.

Have they ever made a mistake? Possibly, but you will never convince people who have promoted them for years that they are shady without proving anything. I have contacted support by email and phone multiple times and I always get an answer. So why do multiple people claim they get no response? Do they not only filter emails of certain people they also have caller ID and don't answer the phone unless it's the "elite" calling?

PLEASE

will76 · 03-06-2006, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok?

no, you failed. explain to me what i said that was not correct, and was just spin. I dont want to hear about fucking people doing their homework and other people's negative shit, you said i was doing spin, so exactly which post was spin? please try again to have an intelligent debate, discussion or whatever you want to call it.

will76 · 03-06-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

The average startup program on GFY has a few hundred affiliates. Clickcash has 10's of thousands counting their models. Even people that don't promote anything else promote clickcash. Of course you see more people bitching because there are way more people potentially breaking TOS.

Add to the fact that clickcash will terminate your account as soon as they see you violate their rules and do not defend themselves when someone claims foul play. Anytime a webmaster screams about another company on here the owner or rep usually responds with all of the proof that that webmaster cheated. Clickcash just stays quiet and continues to pay those who follow the rules.

Have they ever made a mistake? Possibly, but you will never convince people who have promoted them for years that they are shady without proving anything. I have contacted support by email and phone multiple times and I always get an answer. So why do multiple people claim they get no response? Do they not only filter emails of certain people they also have caller ID and don't answer the phone unless it's the "elite" calling?

PLEASE

I bet they have made mistakes, i am sure they made some no company is perfect and with their volume of webmasters it is bound to happen. You are 100% right about the not coming to the boards to defend themselves. when company XYZ gets a flame thread going, the owner or rep will come post their side of the story and everyone will go " ohhh i see" but when it comes to clickcash, there is no "two sides of the story" just the fool who is screaming and jumping up and down how he got ripped off and they stole his whole $80. The same fool that 9 out of 10 times didn't read the TOS to send in his paperwork. but people want to give this fool the benefit of the doubt and assume that a company gets off on terminating people for no reason, which makes NO LOGICAL SENSE. lets see, the more webmasters terminated the less money they make, someone explain to me why they want to make less money ???

Young · 03-07-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by A Guide to creating a Will76 response

Mention that no company is perfect, everyone makes mistakes
Use "9 out of 10" in every one of your statistics
Mention the TOS over and over again failing to point out exactly where the complaintant may have violated the TOS
Mention "making money" over and over again...as if that is a substitute for business ethics.

If I wasn't so tired I'd come up with more. You sound like a fucking tape recorder dude. Same shit over and over again.

I have no bad experiences with CC but from what I read I am extremely hesitant to sign up with them...for good reason to.

I'm done arguing and I'm done with this thread. I just like to throw my

around here and there.

Syl · 03-07-2006, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

the reason a lot of people likely don't hear back from them is because it says in the TOS, if you ask a question that is on the FAQ's page, then we will not reply to you. How many of you people actually read? I bet 9 out of 10 of the times they don't get back to you, your questions could be answered on their site. I don't blame them for doing this, you have 1000' of people emailing asking questions like, when do i get my check, do you pay epassporte, etc... i know i got a ton of those just from people who signed up under me. How hard is it to read. I got tired of answering the same questions over and over too.... read the tos, read the faq, then contact them.

Amazing..won't reply if the question being asked is in the FAQ?? This is very poor customer service.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

If I wasn't so tired I'd come up with more. You sound like a fucking tape recorder dude. Same shit over and over again.

I have no bad experiences with CC but from what I read I am extremely hesitant to sign up with them...for good reason to.

I'm done arguing and I'm done with this thread. I just like to throw my

around here and there.

thats not arguing, its called making shithead comments. Like a form of drive by bashing. Why don't you go get some rest and come back and point out what I said was spin. Pick 1 post, from my several here, anyone you want and lets debate if it is a logical, meaningfull reply, or just some stupid drive by comment.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Syl

Amazing..won't reply if the question being asked is in the FAQ?? This is very poor customer service.

whats poor is that people can not read, if they tell you to read the FAQ and then you don't who is being poor. If they had to hire 100 people to answer all of the questions from all of the fools that can't follow simple instructions they would be paying me a lot less to hire those people. Also, if you can't follow simple instructions i think in most cases, you will be more trouble then what you are worth.

potter · 03-07-2006, 01:01 AM

damn will, you owned this thread!

JMP25 · 03-07-2006, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

So like I been promoting these bastards for what 7 years now..

I look at my credit card info online the other day and see this $29.99
charge from them.. I'm like wtf??? I bought that stupid $6.95/m crap just so
once in every 9 years I can login and see what is available to promote
But wtf is this shit? So I email them right, ugh yeah you frauded me,
refund that shit..

So this morning I read my email, says they took care of it.

I go to log in my stats, account invalid

They TOS'd me, steal the weekly earnings (not sure how much but i usually have about 20 downline sales, and 4-10 regulars per week) and shut me down completely

WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLE SCAM RAPERS

ANYONE WHO PROMOTES THESE COCK SUCKERS IS A FOOL!

AND WATCH YOUR FUCKING MONTHLIES!

OH YEAH, CHECK YOUR FUCKING INCOME TAX 10-99's THEY LOVE TO RAPE YOU ON THAT ADDING 10-20k ON IT DID THAT TO ME LAST YEAR!!!

FUCK YOU CLICK CASH!

Change Sponsor...

reginaldo · 03-07-2006, 02:23 AM

will is on fire... bump for not sending the tos link when someone asks a question thats answered in the tos....

Sofa King · 03-07-2006, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

FYI.... when you refer someone, you make 10% of what they make. So if they make $40, you make $4.

If that same person refers someone else and they make 1 signup, then he makes $4.00 and you make 10% of what they make so you make .40 .

nadanada · 03-07-2006, 02:45 AM

so will, have you ever tried any other cam programs?

2HousePlague · 03-07-2006, 02:45 AM

This thread needs chapters --

Tempest · 03-07-2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

you said you were promoting them for 7 years, you just remembered not getting a $50 signup bonus from them 7 years ago. Where they offering a signup bonus that long ago.

The bottom line is they didn't pay him the money they said they would and he even emailed them about it.

I also never received it even after exchanging several emails with Stacy and having been promised several times they would "fix" it. In the end, it was so little money that I gave up. Same exact thing happened to a close friend of mine.

Tempest · 03-07-2006, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HizAzPhun

Everytime you test an ifriends link you set a PERMANANT COOKIE on your computer, you probably signed up under you own account and didn't even know it.

It's not "permanent". Right now it's 10 years, but since a lot of people turn off cookies, will only accept cookies from "trusted" sites, or will only allow session cookies, it could be 0 and thus you won't get any sales from those people.

toddler · 03-07-2006, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

The bottom line is they didn't pay him the money they said they would and he even emailed them about it.

I also never received it even after exchanging several emails with Stacy and having been promised several times they would "fix" it. In the end, it was so little money that I gave up. Same exact thing happened to a close friend of mine.

Actually, i think post 49 or so said they'll send what his balance is.

While I think Will may get a bit overly defensive sometimes, he at least comes across as significantly more professional then the starter of this thread.

Tempest · 03-07-2006, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

lets see you send quality signups so they wanted to terminate you because you were making them too much money, that makes a lot of sense. How did they ever make it 10 years in business with that kind of strategy?

It's simple. They keep getting new affiliates, get them to put up links and send hits, then term their accounts. Or the best one is to not pay them until they FAX in those documents that everyone forgets.. And then when they finally do, term them or cancel their account because they say the quality of their traffic isn't good enough. Plenty of people will never change some of their links or will do it slowly so those hits and sales keep a coming on in.

As I said ealier, some huge programs really don't give a shit, even if you're sending 5-10 legal sales a day. If you bitch to them etc. they'll just term you. What are you going to do?? Bring it to the boards??

For every person fucked over by these companies, there's a bunch of guys like you that will say they're "top notch stand up guys that don't cheat" which will get that company a bunch of new affiliates.

Tempest · 03-07-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by toddler

Actually, i think post 49 or so said they'll send what his balance is.

My response was in reference to the signup "bonus".

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddler

While I think Will may get a bit overly defensive sometimes, he at least comes across as significantly more professional then the starter of this thread.

It's never a good idea to post when you're pissed off.

Will has his act down very good. He knows that if he acts professional and spins click cash in a positive light, he'll get people to sign up under him. I have noticed that in the last few months he's gotten a lot more abusive with those he spars with though. But don't get confused, his reason for posting in these threads isn't altruistic.

Sofa King · 03-07-2006, 03:03 AM

Proof is in the pudding as someone stated.

That said here are my stats. No photochop other than removing the sponsors around them.

btw, they always paid on time like clockwork... but did not answer the single email sent to them.

PS - its imageshack so if you get an blank it is ~112k uniques for ~1.3K

Mainly tgp and linklist traffic. ymmv.

Tempest · 03-07-2006, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

PS - its imageshack so if you get an blank it is ~112k uniques for ~1.3K

Will should be along soon to let you know he can help you improve your ratios and earn more money from Clickcash... But you'll have to signup under him so he can earn money from all that traffic of yours even if he doesn't help improve your ratios and sales. He also says he cherry picks who he'll work with... Although... he does seem to make the offer to pretty much anyone that agrees with him or simply doesn't say anything negative about CC.

teksonline · 03-07-2006, 04:17 AM

Still see most of you people can't read.. here ya go Will

1. They charged my credit card illegally 29.99
2. I emailed them and said WTF? remove this bogus shit, im also an affiliate
included in email
3. woke up to see my links were TOS'd
4. contacted them, they replied they did not TOS me
5. NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID

to sum it up quit simply

they fucked up their shit and charged my card wether accidentally for fraudulently, instead of fixing it and saying sorry, they took offense
to my refund requst, TOS'd my site and disacknowldge that they did it
claiming I logged in and cancelled it... It's the only reason that link is
there so they can use that excuse, its not for any other purpose
but their deceitful lies and covering their ass when they want to be pricks

Temp1 · 03-07-2006, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

yada yada yada

i got one word for you, you r eady...

baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

if your post had an ounce of intelligence to it I would actually reply back with something thoughtfull. Like the hidden agenda of all the people who support clickcash that don't have it in their sig, or make any money from their endorsement, what is their hidden agenda, create more competition. but I don't want to "insult" you with my post, so you can just look at my sheep pic and feel good about yourself, you got it all figured out.

Your red herring tactics bore me. Watching you make a fool of yourself, I am reminded of exactly how to NOT recruit webmasters to a program. Your pattern is always the same; attack the individual person that has any type of complaint about clickcash. So I'm not altogether suprised with your post with the cute pics. I remember recently reading that thread when people were actually nicely telling you that when vigorously defend shaving practices, you are solidifying the well known notion that clickcash shaves. You didn't seem to get it.

So carry on the obvious clickcash shill and your personal attacks on those that have viable complaints. And obviously there is no shortage of them.

bigdog · 03-07-2006, 06:02 AM

The guys that send clickcash a lot of joins do you guys get support from them at all?

chadglni · 03-07-2006, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

The guys that send clickcash a lot of joins do you guys get support from them at all?

Every email and every phone call. Stacy has called me back the times she didn't answer the phone. She's even called before to make sure something that was changed in my account was correct without me ever contacting them. Everybody I know personally big and small get their emails and phone calls answered.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

The bottom line is they didn't pay him the money they said they would and he even emailed them about it.

I also never received it even after exchanging several emails with Stacy and having been promised several times they would "fix" it. In the end, it was so little money that I gave up. Same exact thing happened to a close friend of mine.

I wonder how many people crying " i didn't get paid the $50 signup bonus" from the SECOND signup account they made. I don't think they had a signup bonus 7 years ago, I wasn't around back then and don't remember when i signed up if they had one or not, but I do know when you make a second or third account they don't keep giving you the signup bonus. You know how many times someone has contacted me about that, where is my signup bonus, and come to find out it was their second account. I wouldn't doubt it with this guy either, lets see if he can give us an honest response on this one.

ared · 03-07-2006, 06:40 AM

Check my sig for the right answer!

will76 · 03-07-2006, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Proof is in the pudding as someone stated.

That said here are my stats. No photochop other than removing the sponsors around them.

btw, they always paid on time like clockwork... but did not answer the single email sent to them.

PS - its imageshack so if you get an blank it is ~112k uniques for ~1.3K

Mainly tgp and linklist traffic. ymmv.

Sorry but what you have listed is not possible.

38 sales would equal more then $1,330.00

1 - 10 sales: $40
11 - 50 sales: $45

Your first 10 make you $400
Your next 28 make you $1260

Total: $1660

So why are your stats out of line? Even if it was all signups over a year and all you made was $40 a signup, simple math, $40 x 38 = $1520

I smell bullshit.

chadglni · 03-07-2006, 06:48 AM

Maybe it's 1994, lol.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Will should be along soon to let you know he can help you improve your ratios and earn more money from Clickcash... But you'll have to signup under him so he can earn money from all that traffic of yours even if he doesn't help improve your ratios and sales. He also says he cherry picks who he'll work with... Although... he does seem to make the offer to pretty much anyone that agrees with him or simply doesn't say anything negative about CC.

and here is the reality of what happens, make an account i help you, if I don't help your sales go up go back to using your original account. It's not fucking rocket science, read my sig. You think you would have seen it enough times by now. But you are one of those people who knows it all, did you signup, did you make the same or less money working with me and did I kept making money off of you? So why do you t hink you know so much about this? oh, it's GFY, every poster here knows everything.

On fucking board full of sig whores and people pushing their sites with 1,000 sponsors on it, people who don't even use the sites they push or make no money with them, you don't bitch about them, instead you bitch about me and I actually help people.

After reading all of this crap, anyone really wonder why I am selective ?

will76 · 03-07-2006, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

It's simple. They keep getting new affiliates, get them to put up links and send hits, then term their accounts. Or the best one is to not pay them until they FAX in those documents that everyone forgets.. And then when they finally do, term them or cancel their account because they say the quality of their traffic isn't good enough. Plenty of people will never change some of their links or will do it slowly so those hits and sales keep a coming on in.

As I said ealier, some huge programs really don't give a shit, even if you're sending 5-10 legal sales a day. If you bitch to them etc. they'll just term you. What are you going to do?? Bring it to the boards??

For every person fucked over by these companies, there's a bunch of guys like you that will say they're "top notch stand up guys that don't cheat" which will get that company a bunch of new affiliates.

i love this argument and was waiting for someone to bring it up. thank you.

anyone here with an ounce of business knowledge will be able to follow me, for the rest of you don't even try t o understand, this concept might be too complex for you.

Affiliate A creates account, sends 10 signups and makes clickcash "$50" (lets use $50 for example i bet the average is much more then that) and clickcash owes him $400 for those 10 signups.

So you suggest that they say

I want your $400 and i am not going to pay you. Considering the VAST majority of webmasters who make money with them will continuing using them for months and even years, why would they give away all of that future income just to screw you out of $400? If you stayed with them say 1 year, at a tiny $50 a week profit off of you they would have made $2600 off of you over the year, does it make sense to keep $400 but to lose $2600 of future earnings. Keep in mind also, all of the negative bs all these people will be starting about them as well, why would they want to make less money and create bad publicity????

And to your comment about the people who forget to change links, come on, sure people may forget to change links but how many forget to change links that actually generate signups. It has to be few and far between, anyone that careless is probably not getting signups in the first place and FYI, if they terminate you, THE SURFER CAN"T SIGNUP ANYWAY, HE GETS SENT TO A TOS PAGE.

But, please come back and try again. see if you can do better next time.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1

Your red herring tactics bore me. Watching you make a fool of yourself, I am reminded of exactly how to NOT recruit webmasters to a program. Your pattern is always the same; attack the individual person that has any type of complaint about clickcash. So I'm not altogether suprised with your post with the cute pics. I remember recently reading that thread when people were actually nicely telling you that when vigorously defend shaving practices, you are solidifying the well known notion that clickcash shaves. You didn't seem to get it.

So carry on the obvious clickcash shill and your personal attacks on those that have viable complaints. And obviously there is no shortage of them.

i try to reply to the idiots in a language they can understand and i an wasting my time to make a meaningfull reply to someone acting like a 8 year old. take it or leave it, read my post or not I don't give a shit what you THINK one way or the other.

will76 · 03-07-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

The guys that send clickcash a lot of joins do you guys get support from them at all?

no problems at all, and i can usually answer the question more then half of the time if the person wants to ask me, that is because the majority of the time it is in the FAQ, lol. Or it is something simple that I have learned along the way, if i can't help the person i can get them in touch with them so their question/ problem is resolved.

03-06-2006, 01:57 PM	#51
sickkittens I am a meat popsicle. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,100	50 questions for Will __________________ HIGHEST PAYOUTS FOR NO-CONSOLE TOURS IN THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY! THIS SIG CAN BE YOURS FOR $200 - ICQ: 78881543

03-06-2006, 03:08 PM	#52
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	bumpadfasfdasdfasfd __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

03-06-2006, 05:08 PM	#56
HizAzPhun Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vachinatown Posts: 470	Everytime you test an ifriends link you set a PERMANANT COOKIE on your computer, you probably signed up under you own account and didn't even know it. __________________ see sig.

03-06-2006, 10:50 PM	#62
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	I remember a few years back ARS fucked up their 1099's. That was some serious shit in a BIG way. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

03-07-2006, 01:01 AM	#76
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	damn will, you owned this thread! __________________

03-06-2006, 08:17 PM	#57
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	has nothig to do with it, when i said refund the mysterious 29.99 charge on my account, they closed my Click Cash account via ToS violation, and email states they did NOT close my account, that I logged in and closed it.. Which is BS

03-06-2006, 10:58 PM	#65
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	I see the spin has started. At least you waited a day or two for the thread to calm down a little and for the flaming to subside. They should pay you well.

03-07-2006, 02:23 AM	#78
reginaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 610	will is on fire... bump for not sending the tos link when someone asks a question thats answered in the tos....

03-07-2006, 02:45 AM	#80
nadanada Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: hiya Posts: 330	so will, have you ever tried any other cam programs? __________________

03-07-2006, 02:45 AM	#81
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	This thread needs chapters -- __________________ tada!

03-07-2006, 03:03 AM	#87
Sofa King Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 132	Proof is in the pudding as someone stated. That said here are my stats. No photochop other than removing the sponsors around them. btw, they always paid on time like clockwork... but did not answer the single email sent to them. PS - its imageshack so if you get an blank it is ~112k uniques for ~1.3K Mainly tgp and linklist traffic. ymmv. __________________ Convert your international traffic with entercharge - the evolution of alternative billing. click here Last edited by Sofa King; 03-07-2006 at 03:04 AM..

03-07-2006, 04:17 AM	#89
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	Still see most of you people can't read.. here ya go Will 1. They charged my credit card illegally 29.99 2. I emailed them and said WTF? remove this bogus shit, im also an affiliate included in email 3. woke up to see my links were TOS'd 4. contacted them, they replied they did not TOS me 5. NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID to sum it up quit simply they fucked up their shit and charged my card wether accidentally for fraudulently, instead of fixing it and saying sorry, they took offense to my refund requst, TOS'd my site and disacknowldge that they did it claiming I logged in and cancelled it... It's the only reason that link is there so they can use that excuse, its not for any other purpose but their deceitful lies and covering their ass when they want to be pricks

03-07-2006, 06:02 AM	#91
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	The guys that send clickcash a lot of joins do you guys get support from them at all?

03-07-2006, 06:40 AM	#94
ared Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 131	Check my sig for the right answer!

03-07-2006, 06:48 AM	#96
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	Maybe it's 1994, lol. __________________ Sign up here - Dating Site affiliate program