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Work-at-home mother pleads guilty to massive porn spamming
Work-at-home mother pleads guilty to massive porn spamming
13 March 2006 09:12 AEST A work-at-home mother pleaded guilty this week in a US federal court to sending millions of spams hyping Internet porn sites, prosecutors have said. Jennifer Clason, 33, of Raymond, N.H., was part of a spam gang that sent mass quantities of messages containing pornographic images, said officials from the Department of Justice. She admitted conspiring with two others, Jeffrey Kilbride, 39, of Venice, Calif., and James Schaffer, 39, of Paradise Valley, Ariz., in sending the messages, which advertised various Internet porn sites. Clason, who pleaded guilty to two counts of violating the federal CAN-SPAM Act and to one count of criminal conspiracy, will forfeit her ill-gotten gains under the agreement she struck with authorities. She also faces a maximum of 15 years in prison. Two other members of the gang, Andrew Ellifson, 31, of Scottsdale, Ariz., and Kirk Rogers, 43, of Manhattan Beach, Calif., have already pleaded guilty to charges under the CAN-SPAM Act. Clason now runs a Web site for work-at-home moms, MommyJobs.com, which was not part of the investigation. According to anti-spam advocate Brian McWilliams, MommyJobs.com -- which bills itself as "a support site for other work at home mothers and others who wish to quit their jobs to be home" -- contains no pitches to join Clason's affiliate program for porn spammers (PhatBucks.com), nor to visit her porn "thumbnail" site (Galleriesblog.com) or her porn content search site (Contentshopper.com). While MommyJobs.com lacks direct porn connections, it does advertise get-rich-quick schemes on its forums, including "auto-surf" sites. Recently, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) shut down a major auto-surf site, and charged its owner with operating a Ponzi scheme to dupe investors. Clason came clean on the MommyJobs.com message forum in a long letter to her site visitors, but claimed she was victimised by a man who convinced her that spamming wasn't illegal. Recently, she said, she left the spamming business. "Apparently this guy that I had trusted for five years had lied to me," she wrote. "Not only was his spam operation illegal, but he was also doing other shady stuff that I had no knowledge of like money laundering!!" http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.a...&src=site-marq |
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hm....a GFY poster?
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Yes, JenC.. At least I believe so as her email was jennifer at phatbucks
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That's JenC
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Yeh, a couple of those people have posted here and are well known. I thought she was only into content production and the affiliate program, didn't know she spammed.
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Interesting read. I remember reading threads about it when the charges first came out.
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ouch , not good for phatbucks
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Remind us again...
Who was JenC related to other than PhatBucks? Pimpdog, any ideas? Regards, Lee |
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oh, the poor girl was a victim
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oh snap!
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Contentshopper.com rings a bell, wonder if she was making much $
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An interesting quote from that Klixxx article..
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The domain reg for MommyJobs.com, PhatBucks.com, Galleriesblog.com and Contentshopper.com are all the same, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller.
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Isn't ContentShopper something Baddog promoted or owned ?
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baddog said he sold contentshopper i think
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cool stuff here sorry im late
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JenC self destructed some time ago.
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Hello people. 1 spammer you associated with daily down, 1000 more you don't know about.
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I've been to that Mommy Boards site before. I recognized it when I just went to look.
I came across it when I was trying to figure out what I could to to work from home. It didn't have any bearing on what I ultimately ended up doing though.
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I don't feel bad for any of them. Spamming is a dumb way to market your product, especially when it's almost illegal now.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting
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Now I remember the name, isn't she the one running adultblogindex.com too?
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domain reg for adultblogindex.com, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller Also seenontvblog.com, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller |
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i always thought that "mothers know best" until i read this thread...
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We were co-owners, no longer. I am the sole owner. You may have missed this part "contains no pitches to join her porn content search site (Contentshopper.com). ContentShopper was not involved in any way, shape or form with the indictment. |
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Damn, that chick is from like 2 towns over from where I grew up.
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Yes, we had to get everything moved to my servers first. I procrastinated and did not get it completed until last night. Transferring the domain name was not exactly a priority, it will be the next thing done. |
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I love the part where she said " i didn't know i was doing anything wrong, i trusted someone i knew for 5 years that it wasn't spam".
I am sure she was making good money. Why not spend a couple hundred and consult a fucking attorney. Unbelievable. " I didn't know" is a very very lame excuse.
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Did the secretaries and low level janitors of Enron get charged? Or how about Martha Stewart's assistant?
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If anyone ever gets prosecuted for a 2257 violation, is the office secretary getting booked? How about the gardener?
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baddog, sorry, but if this was a purely technical error (I pushed X then enter instead of enter then X) I wouldn't care. However, spam is spam. Jen spent enough time on webmaster boards to know what spam was, this isn't like a sudden, surprising "wow, spam is against the can-spam act" sort of thing. Can-spam and many other issues were top of the mind / top of the board issues, as has spam and spammers.
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She is playing the role of dumb blonde girl, a victim. Like another poster said, admit nothing, get a good lawyer and stfu.
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what a dumb bitch
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she cleaned the bathrooms too. ![]() I don't know details, but it sounds like she was benefiting from the spam more so then by just making $10 an hour as an enployee. If she was making 10x more then a normal employee for that position or she was making a % then she wasn't an employee she was a partner and she should have consulted with an attorney.
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ouch! 15 years is a lot of years! And just for sending email? This country blows!!!
It is true that spam sucks, but it's just electronic mail... rapists and murderers out there get 10 years, and she can get 15 for spamming? Damn! |
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she *could* get up to 15 years, but i doubt it would be even close to that. Unless she fights it and really pisses them off, then who knows they might throw the book at her. As much as i hate email spam, the laws are way out of wack. murder in most cases 15 - 25 years, email spam, up to 15 years.... might as well sell drugs, at least if you get caught doing that you get in and out in a couple years.
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