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Old 05-04-2006, 09:50 AM   #51
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I heard a rumor that sending our .com sites offshore won't protect us unless we physically relocate (and become citizens of that offshore country?).


The registry can easily take action to suspend domains delivering adult content that are not on .XXX. I'd see this happening quite quickly once US law-makers get involved.

Moving to a 3rd world toilet isn't going to protect your domains if this is enforced at the registry level.
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:11 AM   #52
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:07 PM   #53
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Just sent our letter in
Every bit helps....
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This does not work [email protected] returned
I sent my letter to this addy also [email protected]. I hope this was the right place to submitt my opinions to.

Can anyone verify this for me?? Thanks
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:58 PM   #55
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This does not work [email protected] returned
I sent my letter to this addy also [email protected]. I hope this was the right place to submitt my opinions to.

Can anyone verify this for me?? Thanks
[email protected] is the proper addy, you will get a confirm email from them so you have to click the link they send or respond to the email the send
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[email protected] is the proper addy, you will get a confirm email from them so you have to click the link they send or respond to the email the send
Thanks baddog I haven't received any confirmation email yet. I will wait until later today and if I have not heard from them then I will send it again.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:52 AM   #57
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confirmation links gets sent out asap
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For those of you bitching about Bush, did you take the time to go vote against him on 2000 (if you were even 18)? Same deal here.

If you don't write in you have no one to blame but yourself if this passes.
I agree....
I visit a few boards and have not seen any activity about this subject at all. Is everyone aware that this crap is right under their noses and don't realize it?

We all need to voice our opinion; even if it is just to say you oppose it.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:23 AM   #59
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confirmation links gets sent out asap
I still haven?t received anything and I just sent something about 15 minutes ago. Maybe they are shooting allot of them in file 13.
My response was business like and no swearing or name calling; but rather the facts of how I feel about the new proposal, so I don?t see any reason for them not accepting my statements or confirming receipt .
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hard to add anything to this thread - so here's just a bump for those who havent seen it yet
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:37 PM   #61
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I guess I will add that I don't believe they are even reading these. Some individuals are getting confirmations and some aren't. I happen to be one that has not got mine yet. I have sent it twice from two different addys. Yesterday and today.
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:38 PM   #62
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I guess I will add that I don't believe they are even reading these. Some individuals are getting confirmations and some aren't. I happen to be one that has not got mine yet. I have sent it twice from two different addys. Yesterday and today.
to which adress did u send it to ?
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:39 PM   #63
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it should go to

[email protected]

immediately after sending it you get an email asking for confirmation
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:40 PM   #64
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and i hope at least someone there reads at least a part of the messages
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:42 PM   #65
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it should go to

[email protected]

immediately after sending it you get an email asking for confirmation
I have been sending my opinion to the email addy, but don't receive any confirmation
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:43 PM   #66
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I also wonder why ICANN wants to introduce this .xxx domain so much
how much money is for them in it?
if the religious groups, the porn industry and the governments ( US, Australia, EU ) oppose it, then why do they even debate it?

ICANN should admit to making a mistake and vote on it again and this time vote it down once and forever ( which would practically mean maybe 5 years silence about .xxx , after these years someone would probably come up with this idea again )
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:45 PM   #67
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Thanks baddog I haven't received any confirmation email yet. I will wait until later today and if I have not heard from them then I will send it again.

Might check your spam box, or send from a different email address . . . it should come right away.
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:43 PM   #68
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i used this: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/dotXXX/Form.html
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:50 PM   #69
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Old 05-05-2006, 04:54 PM   #70
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Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bunch of us here and in some other threads (both here and at the other two boards) have certainly tried to wake up the GFYers to this threat, but....

I hope we don't lose our futures because of lack of participation by others.

With the meeting on May 10th, the ICANN forum might shut down BEFORE then to tally/process/summarize for the board to review.

I bet ICM has made their voices heard (cha-ching???), yet so many of our associates have done nothing to offset that:-(((

Yikes!

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some updated info at: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm

the first open public posting (from 2004.. wow, time flies):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/

highlights from back then:

Larry Walters , adult industry 1st amendment attorney, supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00003.html

Greg Dumas supports .XXX:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html

Parry Asftab who supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00038.html
While i share her mission to protect children, she misunderstands technology and her "facts" about the deceptive marketing are really out of date. her point is something is better than nothing

My post, which points out some interesting issues:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00053.html


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the message board where they post the recent email submissions (2006):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

the email address to write in:
[email protected]

Companies taking a public stand against .XXX:
http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

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Great interview by MJ with Stuart Lawley of ICM (part 1)
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231312

Part 2
http://www.avnonline.com//index.php?...tent_ID=231419

see last paragraph:

last paragraph:

Are any supporters now backing away?
To date we have received over a thousand emails and letters of support from adult webmasters from all over the world.

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over a thousand adult wembasters emailing him!??!!?!?!?? yea right. how about 1,000 adult webmasters posting up on the ICANN board to make a stand??

ICANN does read the posts, and they are on public record. My original post back in 2004 was one of like 3 people to post up. More people need to post to make their opinions heard.

I'll be posting up shortly.



Fight the .$$$ !
Please email a "I object to .xxx" to [email protected] ASAP since our fate might be determined at their Wed meeting.

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Please email a "I object to .xxx" to [email protected] ASAP since our fate might be determined at their Wed meeting.

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they may delay the decision again though
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:22 PM   #74
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your spam software is probably killing it.
check the "spam" folder, or "junk" folder or whatever, if nothing works, try a free email like hotmail
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.xxx Will Have a Catastrophic Effect on the Entire Online Porn Industry!

If it goes through it may intially be on a voluntary basis. Eventually it will become mandatory. After this happens the entire online porn industry will have to be completely re-wired so to speak.

Think about it...your back links, reciprocal links, sponsor links, every gallery and free site ever submitted to your TGP or link list, not to mention your search engine positions etc. EVERYTHING...ALL GONE!


Let your voice be heard!

Send an email opposing .xxx
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Ive sent icann seperate letters from 3 different names.

BUMP for the thread!
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Ive sent icann seperate letters from 3 different names.

BUMP for the thread!
i have sent 5

all different style

that was at the beginning where there were only 50 letters or so
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walters is just another scumbag lawyer looking to line his pockets

If any of you hire that guy to do so much as make a phone call for you, then you are a traitor to this industry

just like he is
FUCK YOU LARRY, I know you cruise through here from time to time but not once habve you ever had the balls to answer my posts you spineless cocksucker
I wonder what that TURNCOAT Walters sent in. It would be interesting to see his version if you can read the text for all the drool on it because of the anticipation of the money he is going to fuck webmasters out of.

I am sure he will play both sides of the fence to cover his worthless ass while bilking webmasters for defense retainers. I for one will never attend any board or function to witness him spew diarrhea from his worthless pie hole, nor will I give my money to be defended by a true asshat like this.

I think we all would be well served if "ALL" webmasters boycott him and put your monies with an Attorney that will not stab you in the back while smiling in your face.

He reminds me of this BIG fucking crook I had to deal with when I first came into this industry.

I AGREE FULLY WITH mikesouth.... ...FUCK YOU LARRY
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some people jsut have no balls, but will cry when it happens.
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Sorry! Gotta keep these threads at the top for others to see.

2 DAYS LEFT!!!!
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Sorry! Gotta keep these threads at the top for others to see.

2 DAYS LEFT!!!!
1 day left....................
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I wonder what that TURNCOAT Walters sent in. It would be interesting to see his version if you can read the text for all the drool on it because of the anticipation of the money he is going to fuck webmasters out of.
Subject: [stld-rfp-xxx] A Responsible First Step for the Adult Industry
From: "Lawrence G. Walters" <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:12:42 -0500

For the good of the adult Internet industry, this proposal should be approved. Having provided legal representation to the adult webmaster community since 1995, along with other facets of the adult industry for years before, I?ve seen many unsuccessful attempts to organize and speak with a united voice. Organizing in the adult Internet industry is essential; just as it is with any other highly-regulated industry. My law firm has represented the adult industry for over 40 years, and has been involved in many organizing efforts. It may be that the only way for this particular facet of the industry to organize is through a non-profit foundation structured to support both the online adult community and the broader Internet community funded through .xxx registration revenue. A .xxx domain name option will eventually become a reality, and the current proposal will result in significant benefit to the industry as a whole, given the significant funding that IFFOR could potentially secure for the purposes of lobbying, legal defense, and media outreach.

When compared to a generic TLD proposal, the current Sponsored TLD proposal is definitely preferable. In light of the current political climate in the United States and elsewhere, IFFOR could become a critical voice for the continued viability and success of the adult website industry. Regardless of one?s feelings concerning the esoteric advisability of a voluntary .xxx domain name registration option, the practical realities must be addressed. Some entity will ultimately convince ICANN to approve a TLD for the adult industry. The current proposal by ICM Registries, Inc., sponsored by IFFOR, will bestow benefits on the industry which far outweigh any of the potential concerns advanced to date. The webmaster community should get behind this proposal which will give something back, instead of waiting for another group to submit a generic TLD proposal based purely on profit motive.

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I cringe a bit when I see the Larry bashing, because Larry has been a supporter of the adult biz and has done alot of contributions to the industry that were on unbilled time.

But, when you read his post from 2 years ago during the first round of open comment period, you can't help but to do a double-take and check that did an adult biz 1st amendment attorney actually say "For the good of the adult Internet industry, this proposal should be approved." ?????????

the answer is black and white.. he did... and there is always more to the story than the surface, one that would probably make you cringe further, but I would rather see .XXX just fail and all those that supported .XXX will become a lost footnote as business goes on as usual and we go back to the "would you hit this" threads.


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Subject: [stld-rfp-xxx] A Responsible First Step for the Adult Industry
From: "Lawrence G. Walters" <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:12:42 -0500

For the good of the adult Internet industry, this proposal should be approved. Having provided legal representation to the adult webmaster community since 1995, along with other facets of the adult industry for years before, I?ve seen many unsuccessful attempts to organize and speak with a united voice. Organizing in the adult Internet industry is essential; just as it is with any other highly-regulated industry. My law firm has represented the adult industry for over 40 years, and has been involved in many organizing efforts. It may be that the only way for this particular facet of the industry to organize is through a non-profit foundation structured to support both the online adult community and the broader Internet community funded through .xxx registration revenue. A .xxx domain name option will eventually become a reality, and the current proposal will result in significant benefit to the industry as a whole, given the significant funding that IFFOR could potentially secure for the purposes of lobbying, legal defense, and media outreach.

When compared to a generic TLD proposal, the current Sponsored TLD proposal is definitely preferable. In light of the current political climate in the United States and elsewhere, IFFOR could become a critical voice for the continued viability and success of the adult website industry. Regardless of one?s feelings concerning the esoteric advisability of a voluntary .xxx domain name registration option, the practical realities must be addressed. Some entity will ultimately convince ICANN to approve a TLD for the adult industry. The current proposal by ICM Registries, Inc., sponsored by IFFOR, will bestow benefits on the industry which far outweigh any of the potential concerns advanced to date. The webmaster community should get behind this proposal which will give something back, instead of waiting for another group to submit a generic TLD proposal based purely on profit motive.

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I cringe a bit when I see the Larry bashing, because Larry has been a supporter of the adult biz and has done alot of contributions to the industry that were on unbilled time.

But, when you read his post from 2 years ago during the first round of open comment period, you can't help but to do a double-take and check that did an adult biz 1st amendment attorney actually say "For the good of the adult Internet industry, this proposal should be approved." ?????????

the answer is black and white.. he did... and there is always more to the story than the surface, one that would probably make you cringe further, but I would rather see .XXX just fail and all those that supported .XXX will become a lost footnote as business goes on as usual and we go back to the "would you hit this" threads.


Fight the commentary!
Thanks for the post Brandon

This part also got my attention
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I have no feelings for someone who is willing to sell our industry out; even if he has donated his time to other causes. I know where he stands and he will not stand next to me!!
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Opposed to .XXX

* To: xxx-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx
* Subject: Opposed to .XXX
* From: Roy Huggins ICANN Communications <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 22:00:42 -0700

While the .xxx TLD may appear useful on the surface, the implementation of it will cause widespread damage. It has already been expressed by US government officials that the existence of a .xxx TLD would be utilized in order to force adult websites that operate in the US to do so solely under a .xxx domain.

The least of the damage to be caused is the loss of marks long-held by webmasters previously operating under other TLDs. Thousands of webmasters have worked for years on .com, .net, etc and will lose huge portions of that work if forced into a .xxx ghetto. The suggestion that they can simply redirect their traffic to the new .xxx is naive and foolish and could only come from someone who is unfamiliar with website development and promotion. For instance, search engines do not regard redirects as legitimate for backward linking purposes. Millions of dollars could be lost on damaged search engine placement alone.

In addition, what guarantee will any adult webmaster have that they will be able to get the .xxx equivalent of their current domain? The forced switch to .xxx will promote domain squatting and the crippling extortion that goes with it. We saw this in the mid-90s and we can easily see it again. There are currently many more TLDs than just .com. This means that a forced switch to .xxx will ensure that many webmasters will be edged out of their long-held and hard-fought marks as they scramble to get whatever .xxx domain most resembles their original business name.

Besides the concern that ghetto-izing legislation would follow the .xxx TLD's approval, it should be sufficient to simply note that the institution of .xxx will in no way assist in hiding pornography from the eyes of minors. The majority of pornographic websites are not American and would not have to abide by .xxx even if said legislation did come to pass. The only pornography that would be filtered by .xxx alone would be that created in the US. A simple Google search followed by a lot of GeoIP checking will tell you that most of the Internet's pornographic content is not in the US and its owners would have no incentive to move it to a .xxx domain. Ipso facto, the institution of .xxx will provide no help in preventing minors from viewing pornography on the Internet. This logic is simple and factual, and should be convincing for anyone who is truly interested in helping parents keep their children away from pornography. The majority of the adult industry is interested in keeping children away from their content, and that is why they use tagging systems like ICRA and support such services as NetNanny, etc. This is because webmasters understand that self-labeling, and the active participation of parents in their children's lives, are the only truly effective method of preventing minors from viewing pornography on the Internet.

I urge ICANN to reject the .xxx TLD proposal. It is nothing more than an effort to make an extra buck and push a moral agenda at the expense of a socially marginalized industry. The damage it will cause will be widespread and only the powerful and wealthy will benefit.

-Roy Huggins
Professional Web Developer and Concerned Netizen
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