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Old 06-05-2006, 04:02 AM   #51
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:11 AM   #52
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Damn I thought you left GFY
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:03 AM   #54
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I am in NY- and will be ready to talk business in San Diego on Thursday.
and YES

This product will be kicking major ass.
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:07 AM   #55
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OMG, this is the 1st time I've heard someone make such a claim.

Lol

I feel your pain, as I also have heard it a gazillion times, but admitted, some of those gazillion were actually right, whether or not I believed them.
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:59 AM   #57
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I am in NY- and will be ready to talk business in San Diego on Thursday.
and YES

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I'll see you there, KB. Let's talk.
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I am in NY- and will be ready to talk business in San Diego on Thursday.
and YES

This product will be kicking major ass.
What makes this product any different than other no credit card products already on the market?
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:37 AM   #60
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It is indeed.
I am going out on a limb here and saying it's the best company and technology I have seen come into this business in the last 6 years.

i thought anywebcam was the best business online and latest and greatest in technology.. make up your mind kfizzle
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:43 AM   #61
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What Sites Can I Use Pure Vanilla On?
Pure Vanilla is accepted on thousands on Adult content sites.

Which sites?

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Old 06-05-2006, 08:46 AM   #62
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Last time this idea came around back in 98/99, the members of the network got like 5 to 10 bucks profit out of it.

I don't see this being any different.

Nothing new KB.
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From a March 29, 2006 press release...

"We have had overwhelming acceptance by the adult industry for our unique proprietary payment systems and have forged relationships with key industry players"

Hype on GFY is one thing, public comments by a public traded company is another.

What are the fees? What cut does the retailer who loads the card get?
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:19 AM   #67
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Last time this idea came around back in 98/99, the members of the network got like 5 to 10 bucks profit out of it.

I don't see this being any different.

Nothing new KB.
Now I get it.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:23 AM   #69
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how is PV unique compared to say.. pppcard.net?
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:28 AM   #70
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Holy shit! Kbizzle just invented the wheel! No wait, that came out a while ago. My bad.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:52 PM   #71
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"Billing: Pure Vanilla's patent pending ACH engine is designed to provide faster access to your money. Our system is designed to meet the needs of our Merchants and can be tailored to receive payments as early as 96 hours or as long as monthly. The choice is yours hahaha8211; with no additional fees for customizing your own solution.

Fees: Pure Vanilla offers a highly competitive pricing model with no hidden fees or upfront costs. "
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:39 PM   #73
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Porn is always an Impluse buy people rarely will purchase it upfront on prepaid.. They only do it when there dick is in there hand

But good luck with it
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Ok, so I've read the site and still don't really get it. This is basically a prepaid porn anonymous card, right?
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Porn is always an Impluse buy people rarely will purchase it upfront on prepaid.. They only do it when there dick is in there hand

But good luck with it


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It has been done many times before and failed each time. Each time a new spin to it. As someone mentioned, porn is an impulse buy. You don't plan your masturbation session at 9pm and make sure you head to the local porn shop to pick up your prepaid card. Despite horror stories, most porn sites are just as safe as mainstream sites and your credit card information can leak to just about anyone. I guess the target audience is the paranoid schizos who are so worried about signing up for something online, they need to run to the porn store and buy their prepaid card.

It's kind of sad in a way.
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I sell these prepaid cards at my bar for $20.00 for 30 days of access. I purchase the cards in bulk at a cost of $8.00/card. They have access to a network of sites.

I'm not sure where the revolution is in this on how I'm going to do business online differently. Curious to know.

Good luck with it though.
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It has been done many times before and failed each time. Each time a new spin to it. As someone mentioned, porn is an impulse buy. You don't plan your masturbation session at 9pm and make sure you head to the local porn shop to pick up your prepaid card. Despite horror stories, most porn sites are just as safe as mainstream sites and your credit card information can leak to just about anyone. I guess the target audience is the paranoid schizos who are so worried about signing up for something online, they need to run to the porn store and buy their prepaid card.

It's kind of sad in a way.
everyone has a Visa or MC in there back pocket..
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You don't plan your masturbation session at 9pm . . .

Towards the end of my last marriage we had to plan when were going to have sex. I have carried that policy over to my masterbatory habits.

Which reminds me . . . . I will be back in a few.
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Towards the end of my last marriage we had to plan when were going to have sex. I have carried that policy over to my masterbatory habits.

Which reminds me . . . . I will be back in a few.
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It has been done many times before and failed each time. Each time a new spin to it. As someone mentioned, porn is an impulse buy. You don't plan your masturbation session at 9pm and make sure you head to the local porn shop to pick up your prepaid card. Despite horror stories, most porn sites are just as safe as mainstream sites and your credit card information can leak to just about anyone. I guess the target audience is the paranoid schizos who are so worried about signing up for something online, they need to run to the porn store and buy their prepaid card.

It's kind of sad in a way.
Or the guys who don't want their wife to see the charge on a credit card bill that they open up while the guy's at work??? If he can use cash to buy the pre-paid card separately, it won't show up on the billing and he can't later refute a credit card--hence, no Credit Card chargeback??????

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I am in NY- and will be ready to talk business in San Diego on Thursday.
and YES

This product will be kicking major ass.

if stupidity was painful, you would be balled up in the fetal position on the floor day and night screaming in agony.

Porn 101:

lesson 1: pornography is and ALWAYS has been an impulse purchase. if you had ever owned a site yourself instead of "consulting" - you would know that.

lesson 2: anonymity isn't and never has been a factor. see lesson 1.

lesson 3: its not exactly like epoch, ccbill or anyone else for that matter bills you as "dogs fucking drunk teens" - see lesson 2.

lesson 4: its been done before. no one cared. it failed. see lesson 3

whats next genius? are you coming out with a new porn browser with really cool tools? you can call it The Ultimate Ultimate Browser!


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Old 06-05-2006, 04:16 PM   #84
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Or the guys who don't want their wife to see the charge on a credit card bill that they open up while the guy's at work??? If he can use cash to buy the pre-paid card separately, it won't show up on the billing and he can't later refute a credit card--hence, no Credit Card chargeback??????

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There are a few initial thoughts:

Profit in the product. If it is to be sold in an adult store, the wholesale price will be less than $10 for a $24.95 price point product. I have yet to see an adult store that does not retail price it's products less than 2 1/2 times cost.

Delivery of the product. I can assume that distributors are going to receive a discounted price on that, so the cards will be a few dollars less than that... so $6-7 dollars. Now the costs from this company to do business... bringing the net profit to be split among the provider and web developer to maybe $3.

Acceptance of the product. As many people have indicated in this thread and other threads, this idea has been tried many times before. I remember adult stores attempting this as far back as 98/99. Every time a product similar to this has come on the market it has been an extremely hard sell to consumers, and typically has to be blown out because of lack of consumer interest. So now you also deal with part of your sales force (adult stores) not wanting to try this product again.

Not to mention the amount of money it will take to brand this company and educate consumers. I'm glad I don't own stock in this, since it's a product that has an uphill battle for acceptance.

The only benefit I could see is if I am prepaid for sales of the card, while they sits on a store shelf gaining dust. But the added hassle of adding a this type of service, then changing it once it fails seems hardly worth the $2.

Maybe i'm missing a few things here?
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:21 PM   #87
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PV is the first truly anonymous design for transactions on the adult industry


There is 0 risk of identity theft
This card is aimed at the millions of people who will never give out their cc. info


PV is a cash based system- completing eliminating any chargebacks
Our processing fees are 50% less and we drive traffic at no additional cost.


Retailers are always looking for new products that drive revenue.
Our system is designed to facilitate online and offline purchases bridging the gap.


This company has been in alternative processing for over 13 years and has processed millions of dollars for taxpayers.

They have had 100% uptime througout their history
Our system was designed to facilitate ease of use for the consumer and protecting their identity and protecting the merchant as well- it is customizable for the merchant and doesn?t cost the merchant anything- no set up fees or escrow accounts.

Incremental revenue-
Our ability to drive traffic through national media will reach tens of millions of people everyday to not only showcase our brand but their brand as well.

If you don't think we have the national media's attention then just you wait-

Hate all you want- but when you hear all about us daily and get so sick of hearing about PV- you'll all remember this post.

And be customers.

Research who is behind this company before you ignorantly bash something that is going to be VERY good for everyone.
:-))

For now, my lips are sealed.
Come to the Erotica LA and see us!

Oh and PS we are NOT a prepaid card.
We are a STORED VALUE card.
I'd liken us more to an "adult pay pal"

You'll all be hearing plenty more...but not from me
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KB rocks. he is the punch line of many convention jokes and stories.

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PV is the first truly anonymous design for transactions on the adult industry


There is 0 risk of identity theft
This card is aimed at the millions of people who will never give out their cc. info


PV is a cash based system- completing eliminating any chargebacks
Our processing fees are 50% less and we drive traffic at no additional cost.


Retailers are always looking for new products that drive revenue.
Our system is designed to facilitate online and offline purchases bridging the gap.


This company has been in alternative processing for over 13 years and has processed millions of dollars for taxpayers.

They have had 100% uptime througout their history
Our system was designed to facilitate ease of use for the consumer and protecting their identity and protecting the merchant as well- it is customizable for the merchant and doesn?t cost the merchant anything- no set up fees or escrow accounts.

Incremental revenue-
Our ability to drive traffic through national media will reach tens of millions of people everyday to not only showcase our brand but their brand as well.

If you don't think we have the national media's attention then just you wait-

Hate all you want- but when you hear all about us daily and get so sick of hearing about PV- you'll all remember this post.

And be customers.

Research who is behind this company before you ignorantly bash something that is going to be VERY good for everyone.
:-))

For now, my lips are sealed.
Come to the Erotica LA and see us!

Oh and PS we are NOT a prepaid card.
We are a STORED VALUE card.
I'd liken us more to an "adult pay pal"

You'll all be hearing plenty more...but not from me
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You can go to CVS right now and get instant-on anonymous visa/mc credit cards.. Smart eh?
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KB,

you better have a damm good distrubution line setup..

that's one of many reasons these cards didn't make it...

phone cards made it but that's a different story, product and niche
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what a crock
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Or the guys who don't want their wife to see the charge on a credit card bill that they open up while the guy's at work??? If he can use cash to buy the pre-paid card separately, it won't show up on the billing and he can't later refute a credit card--hence, no Credit Card chargeback??????

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You kinda get-
But it goes much much deeper than that.

How about the people who hate being spammed, or triple billed,or cross sold?
I amnot knocking the way we do business online people and recurring billing will be around for a while...

VOD is here- and people will love this card for that reason as well.
PS we'll be in close to 100,000 retail locations very soon.
PPPCard will not.
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KB,

you better have a damm good distrubution line setup..

that's one of many reasons these cards didn't make it...

phone cards made it but that's a different story, product and niche
Bro- I have the BEST distribution in place.
I just cannot say anything for the time being.

That's for the PR department to do-
I am not their PR person.
:-))
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:32 PM   #95
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KB,

you better have a damm good distrubution line setup..

that's one of many reasons these cards didn't make it...

phone cards made it but that's a different story, product and niche
phone cards made it because the call time is extremely cheap. almost all phone cards are bought by immigrants calling out of country. unless they plan to offer access to sites for 2.99/mo - i don't see any comparisson to phone cards
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:32 PM   #96
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Bro- I have the BEST distribution in place.
I just cannot say anything for the time being.

:-))
Would you call it "the ultimate ultimate distribution"???

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Old 06-05-2006, 04:33 PM   #97
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WHAHAHAH whatever you say. Is this just as good as foundrynap? You said that was great as well. lol lol, and I do forget all your other GREAT failures...

But who knows...Time will tell...
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:37 PM   #98
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phone cards made it because the call time is extremely cheap. almost all phone cards are bought by immigrants calling out of country. unless they plan to offer access to sites for 2.99/mo - i don't see any comparisson to phone cards

Well my point was the "card thing" itself.. guess there could of been a better example.

I don't like to talk down on a new product or service but I just don't think this can make it.

most people have a credit card or even a debit / check card. you can buy anon cards everywhere - I even see them in my local Safeway..

I guess if you really spent the mill's to brand it as anon, no problems with identity theft / credit card theft you have a chance but......

I'd be more inclinded to start a "epass" type of system - the coin will be much better..
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Good fucking luck with that.

what were you thinking when you choose the name pure vanilla??? lol

Few suggestions

1) hire a designer
2) hire a programer
3) quit ripping off stock photos, cuz if you paid for them, you would be stuck with those sample sizes.
5) Seek therapy, cuz sooner or later all your failures are gonna become unblocked in your subconscious mind and you're gonna end up a potato.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:44 PM   #100
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You kinda get-
But it goes much much deeper than that.

How about the people who hate being spammed, or triple billed,or cross sold?
I amnot knocking the way we do business online people and recurring billing will be around for a while...

VOD is here- and people will love this card for that reason as well.
PS we'll be in close to 100,000 retail locations very soon.
PPPCard will not.
Do prepaid VISA cards (gift cards) that anyone can buy anywhere work when joining a pornsite? Just wondering since I never tried and like the option of a third party involved when buying online. Thanks.
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