People In This Biz that have no SOLID FOUNDATION.......... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Dagwolf · 06-24-2006, 10:18 PM

Never assume. :D

BusterBunny · 06-24-2006, 10:18 PM

werd......

jayeff · 06-24-2006, 10:59 PM

When I first started working life, the practise in almost every business was that you started at the bottom and slowly climbed the ladder, learning every job along the way. And stepping into "dead mens' shoes" was about the only way you were ever going to get promoted.

That was such a frustrating progression, it is probably the main reason that I soon decided to go work for myself. I decided very early on that a boss really didn't need to be able to do someone else's job: only to be able to recognize whether he or she was doing it properly. It isn't even necessary to be able to determine what someone is doing wrong. It is enough to know that the result is not what is required.

Wrong or right, believing that left me free to feel it was okay to get into a variety of businesses about which I knew absolutely nothing (the only formal training I ever had was in chartered accountancy) and although I cannot say I have never made a mistake, overall everything I did was successful.

In fact online porn is the first thing I ever tackled as a one-man band and I wish circumstances had not made that necessary. I have been forced to achieve some degree of competency in everything that goes into operating web sites, but I would be kidding myself if I were to believe there are not many people in every aspect of the job who make me look like a rank amateur.

The experience has confirmed that my talent is definitely not for doing, but for seeing the big picture, hiring the right people and getting the best out of them. I don't quite know how you establish a foundation for that, except by getting on with it and producing results.

makefuckingmoney · 06-24-2006, 11:04 PM

timing was everything in this biz

gooddomains · 06-24-2006, 11:05 PM

one should learn the basics and then move on and not vice versa

Webby · 06-24-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Some thoughts......

Back in early 2000 or so I started the tgp , free site part of the biz and learned from trial n error...... I later added more to my arsenal such as basic SEO, PPC programs and such...... I made mistakes learned from em and went from there......Now by this i mean a "foundation" a solid knowledge of different aspects of this business....

It was never anything other than that Juicy and totally agree man

PS Below ... how cheap can it be to have a mouth stitched up? I'll pay

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
yo, admit it bro, you don't know jack about computers much less the Internet. You rely on other people for the knowledge. the best way to describe it is that you're a salesman or deal maker. Another way of putting it you're a player that has a way with people. Oh and a high post count. It doesn't take a ton of know how to build post count. Look at madawqz.... trying to follow in your foot steps.

Not puttin ya down, you've prolly made a few bucks. And it's not like I've booked a million bucks recently either.

$5 submissions · 06-24-2006, 11:24 PM

Good points, Juicy D.

mfps · 06-24-2006, 11:32 PM

im building my foundation as we speak.

i came into this business with a couple domains i had owned for a few years, and the desire to make it work.

i had a decent amount of coding experience (as a hobbyist) so i figured i would start a tgp since that was what i enjoyed surfing.

so i went with it.

i surfed to lightspeedcash, and stumbled into the world of affiliate marketing.
i dumped a bunch of their FHG on heres-some-porn.com, painted it pink, and waited for the money to come rolling in.

as you guys all know, 3 days later and im a millionaire!

i guess im about 4 months into it now, and im either gonna buy an island or a basketball team.

back here in reality, im learning more every day, trying new ideas and coming up with tons more.

i have written my own CMS (didnt know i was writing a 'CMS' at the time)

my own trade script (without every actually seeing a trade script, or how it should work)
i wrote the backend for my ad rotation system
designed the sites, did the art work
i have learned a little about buying traffic, and how much bought traffic can suck.

im discovering ways to make that traffic more useful, and am experimenting with more all the time.

ive met a bunch of awesome people on the boards, and have had the pleasure to learn from a lot of you.
i went to my first show today, and met up with some very cool people.

thanks everybody

i knew this business wouldnt be easy, but i gotta tell ya, i was a little surprised at how it actually is.

so to summarize:

no foundation to speak of. (noob)
trying really hard to build one. (hardworking noob)
love you all. (mean it)
this is hard work. (pimpin aint easy)

thank you for letting me share
-John

or if you only read the last line of this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfps

as you guys all know, 3 days later and im a millionaire!

Choppa · 06-24-2006, 11:33 PM

yeah i know where your coming from Bro

Macchiavelli also had an excerpt from The prince whereby he states that man should not build a foundation from mud

kmanrox · 06-24-2006, 11:37 PM

i sale cheap foundation

Webby · 06-24-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfps

im building my foundation as we speak.

i came into this business with a couple domains i had owned for a few years, and the desire to make it work.

i had a decent amount of coding experience (as a hobbyist) so i figured i would start a tgp since that was what i enjoyed surfing.

so i went with it.

i surfed to lightspeedcash, and stumbled into the world of affiliate marketing.
i dumped a bunch of their FHG on heres-some-porn.com, painted it pink, and waited for the money to come rolling in.

as you guys all know, 3 days later and im a millionaire!

i guess im about 4 months into it now, and im either gonna buy an island or a basketball team.

back here in reality, im learning more every day, trying new ideas and coming up with tons more.

i have written my own CMS (didnt know i was writing a 'CMS' at the time)

my own trade script (without every actually seeing a trade script, or how it should work)
i wrote the backend for my ad rotation system
designed the sites, did the art work
i have learned a little about buying traffic, and how much bought traffic can suck.

im discovering ways to make that traffic more useful, and am experimenting with more all the time.

ive met a bunch of awesome people on the boards, and have had the pleasure to learn from a lot of you.
i went to my first show today, and met up with some very cool people.

thanks everybody

i knew this business wouldnt be easy, but i gotta tell ya, i was a little surprised at how it actually is.

so to summarize:

no foundation to speak of. (noob)
trying really hard to build one. (hardworking noob)
love you all. (mean it)
this is hard work. (pimpin aint easy)

thank you for letting me share
-John

or if you only read the last line of this post:

Excellent stuff John!

It is very useful knowing some languages or having coding experience - there is no limit to what can be generated or automated.

Jakke PNG · 06-25-2006, 12:29 AM

I can always do 30 tgp designs per month @ $150/piece if all else fails.

60grand · 06-25-2006, 12:46 AM

true that

Halcyon · 06-25-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfps

im building my foundation as we speak.

i came into this business with a couple domains i had owned for a few years, and the desire to make it work.

i had a decent amount of coding experience (as a hobbyist) so i figured i would start a tgp since that was what i enjoyed surfing.

so i went with it.

i surfed to lightspeedcash, and stumbled into the world of affiliate marketing.
i dumped a bunch of their FHG on heres-some-porn.com, painted it pink, and waited for the money to come rolling in.

as you guys all know, 3 days later and im a millionaire!

i guess im about 4 months into it now, and im either gonna buy an island or a basketball team.

back here in reality, im learning more every day, trying new ideas and coming up with tons more.

i have written my own CMS (didnt know i was writing a 'CMS' at the time)

my own trade script (without every actually seeing a trade script, or how it should work)
i wrote the backend for my ad rotation system
designed the sites, did the art work
i have learned a little about buying traffic, and how much bought traffic can suck.

im discovering ways to make that traffic more useful, and am experimenting with more all the time.

ive met a bunch of awesome people on the boards, and have had the pleasure to learn from a lot of you.
i went to my first show today, and met up with some very cool people.

thanks everybody

i knew this business wouldnt be easy, but i gotta tell ya, i was a little surprised at how it actually is.

so to summarize:

no foundation to speak of. (noob)
trying really hard to build one. (hardworking noob)
love you all. (mean it)
this is hard work. (pimpin aint easy)

thank you for letting me share
-John

or if you only read the last line of this post:

We love you, too.

seeric · 06-25-2006, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Some thoughts......

Back in early 2000 or so I started the tgp , free site part of the biz and learned from trial n error...... I later added more to my arsenal such as basic SEO, PPC programs and such...... I made mistakes learned from em and went from there......Now by this i mean a "foundation" a solid knowledge of different aspects of this business....

Now I have been seeing people coming out of nowhere with nothing behind em....ie: no foundation....these people basically are taking there role on a day to day basis moving from A to B to C and so on....but eventually there will be no point to move on too....

You need a foundation to build on, without a solid one the hpouse will start to crumple...

preach it brother. it aint 2000 anymore.

06-24-2006, 10:18 PM	#51
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06-24-2006, 11:24 PM	#57
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06-24-2006, 11:33 PM	#59
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06-25-2006, 12:29 AM	#62
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I can always do 30 tgp designs per month @ $150/piece if all else fails. __________________ ..and I'm off.

06-24-2006, 10:59 PM	#53
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	When I first started working life, the practise in almost every business was that you started at the bottom and slowly climbed the ladder, learning every job along the way. And stepping into "dead mens' shoes" was about the only way you were ever going to get promoted. That was such a frustrating progression, it is probably the main reason that I soon decided to go work for myself. I decided very early on that a boss really didn't need to be able to do someone else's job: only to be able to recognize whether he or she was doing it properly. It isn't even necessary to be able to determine what someone is doing wrong. It is enough to know that the result is not what is required. Wrong or right, believing that left me free to feel it was okay to get into a variety of businesses about which I knew absolutely nothing (the only formal training I ever had was in chartered accountancy) and although I cannot say I have never made a mistake, overall everything I did was successful. In fact online porn is the first thing I ever tackled as a one-man band and I wish circumstances had not made that necessary. I have been forced to achieve some degree of competency in everything that goes into operating web sites, but I would be kidding myself if I were to believe there are not many people in every aspect of the job who make me look like a rank amateur. The experience has confirmed that my talent is definitely not for doing, but for seeing the big picture, hiring the right people and getting the best out of them. I don't quite know how you establish a foundation for that, except by getting on with it and producing results.

06-24-2006, 11:04 PM	#54
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	timing was everything in this biz

06-24-2006, 11:05 PM	#55
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	one should learn the basics and then move on and not vice versa

06-24-2006, 11:37 PM	#60
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	i sale cheap foundation

06-25-2006, 12:46 AM	#63
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