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Old 06-25-2006, 11:39 PM   #51
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:05 AM   #52
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well, I can see now you change the position of hands. Anyway, "drew when looking it as inspiration" my ass, he simply took that image and from there took the shape or whatever and then made the gesture. I can't make zilch with Photoshop, but even a dumbster like me knows that trick. The moral of the story is that you're putting in risk the one that might pay you (ie ninavain) since she'd get a C&D or even be sued just because you're stealing content. If you choose to do this, you MUST say "I took this image from ....., is that OK?" And then is ninavain's choice if she wants to go on with that. And don't come with bullshit, you know you're in the wrong

and just in case you decide to say I'm lying or whatever I also saved your "stolen content" logo
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:11 AM   #53
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well, I can see now you change the position of hands. Anyway, "drew when looking it as inspiration" my ass, he simply took that image and from there took the shape or whatever and then made the gesture. I can't make zilch with Photoshop, but even a dumbster like me knows that trick. The moral of the story is that you're putting in risk the one that might pay you (ie ninavain) since she'd get a C&D or even be sued just because you're stealing content. If you choose to do this, you MUST say "I took this image from ....., is that OK?" And then is ninavain's choice if she wants to go on with that. And don't come with bullshit, you know you're in the wrong

and just in case you decide to say I'm lying or whatever I also saved your "stolen content" logo
Yup your an idiot.
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:19 AM   #54
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MrJackMeHoff - Please contact me on icq: 5409812 - I may have a design project for you....
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:24 AM   #55
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well, I can see now you change the position of hands. Anyway, "drew when looking it as inspiration" my ass, he simply took that image and from there took the shape or whatever and then made the gesture. I can't make zilch with Photoshop, but even a dumbster like me knows that trick. The moral of the story is that you're putting in risk the one that might pay you (ie ninavain) since she'd get a C&D or even be sued just because you're stealing content. If you choose to do this, you MUST say "I took this image from ....., is that OK?" And then is ninavain's choice if she wants to go on with that. And don't come with bullshit, you know you're in the wrong

and just in case you decide to say I'm lying or whatever I also saved your "stolen content" logo
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:25 AM   #56
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:28 AM   #57
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I think its giftedtwisted you want. I just saw him make it I dont draw myself ;)
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:29 AM   #58
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how come he's an idiot? kindly explain
Because i watched him draw it.. And basically hes calling us both liars. And fuck that shit I don't lie.
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:40 AM   #59
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:14 PM   #60
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Of course I'd usually charge more than $100 for something like this, but I'm interested in doing your sites, so here you have, hope you like it
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Some good shit in here.
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and to put an end to the discussion, alan-l is 100% right, very easy to prove



I don't like to get into other designer's biz, but this is very bad business ethics and tame the name of all designers. I encourage you guys to do things the good way instead of this way, you've the skills, then why fuck up for a quick buck?
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:49 PM   #63
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:26 PM   #64
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and to put an end to the discussion, alan-l is 100% right, very easy to prove



I don't like to get into other designer's biz, but this is very bad business ethics and tame the name of all designers. I encourage you guys to do things the good way instead of this way, you've the skills, then why fuck up for a quick buck?
You're definitely right on this one
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:58 PM   #65
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You're definitely right on this one
If it was exactly the same image then yes it would be bad.. This actually proves my point.. Its obviously not the exact image or even a trace... But its a drawing inspired by.

All this proves is that he is very good at drawing while viewing a picture.. While this was poor judgement I dont see a real problem here.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:02 PM   #66
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I think you guys are going too basic and a little too dark
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:07 PM   #67
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Of course I'd usually charge more than $100 for something like this, but I'm interested in doing your sites, so here you have, hope you like it
Damn, thats hot.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:25 PM   #69
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If it was exactly the same image then yes it would be bad.. This actually proves my point.. Its obviously not the exact image or even a trace... But its a drawing inspired by.

All this proves is that he is very good at drawing while viewing a picture.. While this was poor judgement I dont see a real problem here.
man, that's a 100% EXACT trace, even the hands, no matter how he changed the forearms angle are the same, or do you want me to also prove they're traced as well? Do yo know why your drawing has those strange fingers? Because your employee didn't found a bigger image to do the trace from, so the fingers look sharp, but he did another serious and obvious mistake: he left a loose black outline corresponding to the other hand's thumb. Funny thing is that your guy did it well after alan-l exposed you, as you can see at http://www.giftedtwisted.com/project...lgirls/psd.jpg

In your AFTER BEING EXPOSED "how I did it" image, there's no loose line, so how the fuck did you made the logo with that loose line since by YOUR OWN WORDS your guy made the drawing from scratch?

Another thing, that "layer" thing only proves he did a trace as I pointed. and no matter how many turns you take, it's 100% impossible to copy a drawing by hand and make it coincide in each and every pixel

Seriously, you shouldn't even have been done this for a start, but once you did it, the smartest thing would be to shut the fuck up and take the image offline instead of playing smart ass, calling names and adding fuel to the fire
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Of course I'd usually charge more than $100 for something like this, but I'm interested in doing your sites, so here you have, hope you like it
now tell me where did you stole that from!

I mean... whoa!
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Of course I'd usually charge more than $100 for something like this, but I'm interested in doing your sites, so here you have, hope you like it
Holy shit hit me up..I'm sure we can find you some odds and ends around the house..lol
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man, that's a 100% EXACT trace, even the hands, no matter how he changed the forearms angle are the same, or do you want me to also prove they're traced as well? Do yo know why your drawing has those strange fingers? Because your employee didn't found a bigger image to do the trace from, so the fingers look sharp, but he did another serious and obvious mistake: he left a loose black outline corresponding to the other hand's thumb. Funny thing is that your guy did it well after alan-l exposed you, as you can see at http://www.giftedtwisted.com/project...lgirls/psd.jpg

In your AFTER BEING EXPOSED "how I did it" image, there's no loose line, so how the fuck did you made the logo with that loose line since by YOUR OWN WORDS your guy made the drawing from scratch?

Another thing, that "layer" thing only proves he did a trace as I pointed. and no matter how many turns you take, it's 100% impossible to copy a drawing by hand and make it coincide in each and every pixel

Seriously, you shouldn't even have been done this for a start, but once you did it, the smartest thing would be to shut the fuck up and take the image offline instead of playing smart ass, calling names and adding fuel to the fire

You dumb fuck Im not the one who drew it so shut the fuck up who you talking to.
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One more thing I'll say in his defense because he is my friend.. No one said he didnt make a picture like the image.. Or deny it was where it came from. Its just a mock up of what it can look like.. Not nescasarily the actual final product. Also another ad in this thread is also very similar to something I know of.. I wont mention it, but this is very common practice especially when someone is just making an example of a possible direction to make an ad.

Get a clue and drop it your point is noted you think what you want.. The moprh is very deceiving and isnt using the original picture exactly as it was drawn, someone really wanted to make him look bad I guess so their buddy could win.

Fucking girls on gfy always looking for drama where there is none.. Its prolly my fault because i like to fight back, so you got your panties in a bunch now. Do me and the rest of us a favor and grow up.
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OK, I've added you but it seems you're offline, let's chat tomorrow
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when is the dead line for entries ? thanks
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