I don't think I have ever had a rant thread, so here goes. - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:24 PM

One thing that has always bothered me (long before I started in this industry) is the reaction people have when they feel threatened by the work of another.

When I was 18 I started working for the phone company as a telephone operator, one of two males with 400 women. While the chicks could be rude, or hang up on callers, I could never get away with it, so I strove to be the best I could be.

Then I started working outside, dealing with customers face to face. Since I had the longest hair and beard of anyone at the company, I was again, easily identifiable, so I made sure I did the best possible job so no one could complain about the work that biker did.

This work ethic followed me into the switchroom, and I soon became trained to the highest level possible in troubleshooting the digital switches.

All along the way, I heard the grumbling that I was just trying to make the others look bad, when in fact, I just really enjoyed my work, and would have been extremely bored sitting around for 8 hours a day like some of my co-workers.

When I started working in the legal field I was able to easily identify the lawyers that were confident in their abilities, as they were willing to share their knowledge with me, with no fear that I would put them out of work.

When I represented myself in my last divorce (heavily contested, went on for about 2 years), the attorney that represented my ex started off hating me, but it was easy to see that his law clerk was getting better and better in an effort to keep up with me.

Several years later we crossed paths, and he apologized for his actions/attitude and expressed respect for what I had done.

Fast forward to today.

I got an email from a "large company," and it was relayed to me that a competitor of one of my companies was complaining because emails I sent out may have given the impression that this big company was in fact suggesting that they use my services instead of the services of others.

It was easy to see that whomever was complaining was doing so because they knew that we were doing a better job of it than they were. Well, that is bullshit. In no way does it say or imply that. What it comes down to is that Brand X company fears competition, and rather than step up and provide a better product to their customers they will try to attack me via the "large company."

Well, it isn't going to work. I will continue to provide the better product, and at the very worst, the "large company" isn't going to get credit for doing the fine job they do.

Moral of the story, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, or get a fire extinguisher.

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Doctor Dre · 06-29-2006, 06:27 PM

Welcome to america baby... that's what they call "justice"

BIGTYMER · 06-29-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Moral of the story, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, or get a fire extinguisher.

dissipate · 06-29-2006, 06:31 PM

I just wasted 60 seconds of my life reading this?

BIGTYMER · 06-29-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I just wasted 60 seconds of my life reading this?

Join the club.

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTymer

Join the club.

Pretty sad if it took 60 seconds to read that.

EdgeXXX · 06-29-2006, 06:41 PM

Ever been "let go" from a company because the person above you is afraid that you are more qualified for his job than he is?

Deraj · 06-29-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Pretty sad if it took 60 seconds to read that.

that's why i learned to skim words

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Ever been "let go" from a company because the person above you is afraid that you are more qualified for his job than he is?

no, but I know it happens

TDF · 06-29-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Ever been "let go" from a company because the person above you is afraid that you are more qualified for his job than he is?

I have...

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deraj

that's why i learned to skim words

I figure it took about 3 minutes to type, I don't have a stopwatch, but it couldn't take more than 20 seconds to read.

DamageX · 06-29-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I just wasted 60 seconds of my life reading this?

EdgeXXX · 06-29-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TDF

I have...

Me too (more than once sadly), which is what initially drove me to start my own company. Funny how things work out sometimes

2HousePlague · 06-29-2006, 06:49 PM

Nice rant. Take it from a pro.

2hp

Grapesoda · 06-29-2006, 06:49 PM

try being a shooter sometime, then you'll see some real hater action going down

pornguy · 06-29-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Ever been "let go" from a company because the person above you is afraid that you are more qualified for his job than he is?

Yep, and it was the last fulltime indoor job I ever had.

pussyluver · 06-29-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I figure it took about 3 minutes to type, I don't have a stopwatch, but it couldn't take more than 20 seconds to read.

Slow reader here... Well average.

You knew there was a glass ceiling for bikers all along.....

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:52 PM

Note to dissipate: you have been on ignore for quite a while, which means that not only do I not see your comments in the threads of others, I don't bother opening threads you start.

You might save a few precious minutes of your life by doing likewise with me.

pussyluver · 06-29-2006, 06:52 PM

Didn't happen to work on No. 4 ESS did ya? Was an engineer about the time you'd have been doing that shit. Tell me you worked on step-by-step and I'll be impressed (with the age of the equipment)

baddog · 06-29-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Slow reader here... Well average.

You knew there was a glass ceiling for bikers all along.....

I didn't mind, with overtime I made more than my boss did anyway.

TDF · 06-29-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

try being a shooter sometime, then you'll see some real hater action going down

I dont have the patience to deal with talent..I dont know how you guys do it

wyldblyss · 06-29-2006, 06:54 PM

It doesn't matter if you are the best, second best or slightly better than someone else, there will always be haters.

devilspost · 06-29-2006, 06:57 PM

Where is the drama? give it up!

baddog · 06-29-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Didn't happen to work on No. 4 ESS did ya? Was an engineer about the time you'd have been doing that shit. Tell me you worked on step-by-step and I'll be impressed (with the age of the equipment)

The 4 ESS was Bell Systems technology as I recall . . . I worked for GTE.

As far as step-by-step I won 1st or 2nd place in a science fair in the 7th grade by putting a selector switch on a piece of plywood and identifying the different parts and explaining how is worked in the putting a call through. This was in 1965 or 66, and DDD (Direct Distance Dialing) was still relatively new. I had large groups of people in front of my exhibit at all times.

My dad worked for GTE and used to take me into a switchroom all the time as a kid. His co-workers would ask if I was going to follow in his footsteps and I always said, "no way." Funny how things work.

As far as the switches I worked on, I had to look back thru my old resumes. They include: DMS-1, DMS-100, AE GTD-5, GTD-5 MXU, AE 2A and AE 2B (the 2A and 2B I seem to recall were made by AE)

Grapesoda · 06-29-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TDF

I dont have the patience to deal with talent..I dont know how you guys do it

fuck the talent . . the other shooters is who ya gotta watch out for

Big Red Machine · 06-29-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

fuck the talent . . the other shooters is who ya gotta watch out for

Especially Shoe Box Producers

06-29-2006, 06:24 PM	#1
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I don't think I have ever had a rant thread, so here goes. One thing that has always bothered me (long before I started in this industry) is the reaction people have when they feel threatened by the work of another. When I was 18 I started working for the phone company as a telephone operator, one of two males with 400 women. While the chicks could be rude, or hang up on callers, I could never get away with it, so I strove to be the best I could be. Then I started working outside, dealing with customers face to face. Since I had the longest hair and beard of anyone at the company, I was again, easily identifiable, so I made sure I did the best possible job so no one could complain about the work that biker did. This work ethic followed me into the switchroom, and I soon became trained to the highest level possible in troubleshooting the digital switches. All along the way, I heard the grumbling that I was just trying to make the others look bad, when in fact, I just really enjoyed my work, and would have been extremely bored sitting around for 8 hours a day like some of my co-workers. When I started working in the legal field I was able to easily identify the lawyers that were confident in their abilities, as they were willing to share their knowledge with me, with no fear that I would put them out of work. When I represented myself in my last divorce (heavily contested, went on for about 2 years), the attorney that represented my ex started off hating me, but it was easy to see that his law clerk was getting better and better in an effort to keep up with me. Several years later we crossed paths, and he apologized for his actions/attitude and expressed respect for what I had done. Fast forward to today. I got an email from a "large company," and it was relayed to me that a competitor of one of my companies was complaining because emails I sent out may have given the impression that this big company was in fact suggesting that they use my services instead of the services of others. It was easy to see that whomever was complaining was doing so because they knew that we were doing a better job of it than they were. Well, that is bullshit. In no way does it say or imply that. What it comes down to is that Brand X company fears competition, and rather than step up and provide a better product to their customers they will try to attack me via the "large company." Well, it isn't going to work. I will continue to provide the better product, and at the very worst, the "large company" isn't going to get credit for doing the fine job they do. Moral of the story, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, or get a fire extinguisher. </rant> Last edited by baddog; 06-29-2006 at 06:25 PM..

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Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	try being a shooter sometime, then you'll see some real hater action going down

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Note to dissipate: you have been on ignore for quite a while, which means that not only do I not see your comments in the threads of others, I don't bother opening threads you start. You might save a few precious minutes of your life by doing likewise with me.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Didn't happen to work on No. 4 ESS did ya? Was an engineer about the time you'd have been doing that shit. Tell me you worked on step-by-step and I'll be impressed (with the age of the equipment)

06-29-2006, 06:54 PM	#22
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	It doesn't matter if you are the best, second best or slightly better than someone else, there will always be haters.