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Old 06-05-2002, 01:46 PM   #51
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Where is Horny Rob? I need some new content.......
Is Admiral Krag still around?

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Old 06-05-2002, 01:53 PM   #52
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Old 06-05-2002, 06:57 PM   #53
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What's so unique about those banners?
I, as well as many others have been making banners like that for the past five years.. there's nothing new or unique about either of them...
I don't believe they're new or unique.

But don't you see a resemblance? There are too many similarities, as noted above, to be a coincidence.

I agree <b>spanky</b>, it'd be very interesting to see what someone in the know has to say.
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havent you noticed, when people can no longer push the envelope they start calling Legalities. Thats how it works.

You cant be Top Dog forever.
This is not as simple as trying to maintain a good position or market share in a niche. A branding infringement is apparent. It is highly unlikely they weren't aware of <i>Club Seventeen</i> before they designed, named and marketed such a site. If they weren't, that is one handsome coincidence.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:03 PM   #54
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But don't you see a resemblance? There are too many similarities, as noted above, to be a coincidence.
I see the similarities! I can't believe someone else had the nerve to setup a teen site, and advertise it on the Hun with a vertical banner with two chicks on it!

This is an outrage. A travesty even.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:24 PM   #55
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Me either, how dare they! Sarcasm aside, I'm not impressed.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:27 PM   #56
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You guys know club17.com is the core product of payserve.com right?

their url: www.17s.com
our url: www.club17.com

Does anyone knows these wannebe guys?
Sorry to say dude, their site is not a copy of yours...it's better.
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Old 06-05-2002, 08:01 PM   #57
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I think the second one is better than the first (original)
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Old 06-05-2002, 08:04 PM   #58
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The site is a rip off of Club Seventeen. Maybe it's a legal rip off, that's fine, but let's not try to deny it's a rip off.
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Old 06-05-2002, 08:49 PM   #59
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I'm going to release a new niche next week :

shemale wheelchair bound midgets being reamed in the butt with barbed wire aluminum baseball bats ...


Nobody can steal my idea now I am copyrighting it


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Old 06-05-2002, 09:07 PM   #60
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can I start club17ish.com??

weird no one has that....hmmmmmmmm


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Old 06-05-2002, 09:08 PM   #61
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I'm going to release a new niche next week :

shemale wheelchair bound midgets being reamed in the butt with barbed wire aluminum baseball bats ...


Nobody can steal my idea now I am copyrighting it


HEY!!!!!!!!!

Can I be the midget?
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Old 06-06-2002, 12:49 AM   #62
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First of all:
Tribute to Horny Rob!
He's our friend 4 ever!!!

Next:
17s.com is a rip off!

Hehehhehe, fact is:
A new competitor in the business makes it even more interesting!
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Old 06-06-2002, 06:08 AM   #63
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I don't see any similarities either. You are over-reacting.
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Old 06-06-2002, 08:00 AM   #64
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Personally i would want a lawyer who actually took grammar in school

nick do you guys have an actual trademark on it? If not then there is not much you can do.
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Old 06-06-2002, 08:22 AM   #65
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what fucking planet are you from. This is the nature of all business. Do you think Fruit Loops went crying to the cerial community when Fruit Rings came out. Your lucky Microsoft hasn't decided to attack your market. Do you think Smoothie stores cry about other smoothie stores. It's not like you invented naked teenagers.
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:45 AM   #66
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Ha, we're no doubt a divided bunch. *g*

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what fucking planet are you from. This is the nature of all business. Do you think Fruit Loops went crying to the cerial community when Fruit Rings came out. Your lucky Microsoft hasn't decided to attack your market. Do you think Smoothie stores cry about other smoothie stores. It's not like you invented naked teenagers.
As I said, this is a branding infringement, NOT a product infringement.
As far as Froot Loops go, I find it hard to believe they didn't go crying. In fact...in this case, they <b>did</b>. Kellogg's pursued a drum band named <i>The Toucans</i> for using the same bird in their name as Froot Loops feature in it's marketing - Toucan Sam.

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Trademark law typically protects a name used in connection with a specific category of goods in order to prevent the buying public from being confused between two products.
That is EXACTLY what is happening here with Club Seventeen. DutchClub Seventeens use both the name & category of goods. It doesn't get any more clear cut than this.

Granted, Kellogg's lost their appeal to stop <i>The Toucans</i> registering their band name as a trademark, HOWEVER this is not a fair comparison to Fruit Rings - which is an identical product (not a band).

In essence, Kellogg's <i>do</i> give a shit when they're being ripped off - and so they should.

How the fuck is <i>Club Seventeen</i> any different?
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:51 AM   #67
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just a quick note to all who put the banners were very different...

1) there are 2 girls, both in the same pose, both with clothes in the same position, both looking at the same angle
2) both mention dutch/holland
3) both say seventeen somewhere on the banner

.. and yes... 4) they are both vertical! ;)

i think they do have a case, but dont think they would win..

not worth the effort.

i strongly recommend they dont mention the other site on theirs though, or in their members area "these ppl are ripping us off". if i was a member, id check them out to see how much they were ripping off, with the chance i might like it and switch!
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Old 06-07-2002, 12:48 AM   #68
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if i was a member, id check them out to see how much they were ripping off, with the chance i might like it and switch!
There's simply no doubt!
These surfers might go to 17s.com for a one time look,
after that they wish they'd never left us,
Club17's membersection is by far much better and bigger than theirs.

well... STILL A RIP OFF!
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