In Turkish Movie, Americans Kill Innocents

[Lev]

ISTANBUL, Turkey - In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in
Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.

They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to
Abu Ghraib prison ? where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

"Valley of the Wolves Iraq" ? set to open in Turkey on Friday ? feeds off the increasingly negative feelings many Turks harbor toward their longtime
NATO allies: Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/..._blockbuster_2

And then America call these fucktards "allies"

[BigCashCrew]

It's time for me to boycott Camel cigarettes.

[BigCashCrew]

"The movie's American stars are
Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and
Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor."

WTF?

[Antonio]

Americans Kill Innocents in Iraq. Period.

as for the Jewish doctor selling short organs on eBay, don't know about that...

[Tempest]

I don't know why anyone would be upset or even surprised by this.. How many US made movies portray other "fanatic" races as killing innocent people all the time?

[directfiesta]

So ?

Wha«t is the problem ?

Just another reality show ...

[gangbangjoe]

it's part of the truth

you gotta deal with it

[Lev]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

it's part of the truth

you gotta deal with it

Jewish doctor selling organs is part of the truth?

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by Lev

Jewish doctor selling organs is part of the truth?

rabbis sucking blood of kids penises

germans killing millions of jews

americans killing innocent iraqis


it's a sad world we live in

[-Turk-]

you're just as sad as those idoits getting they're panties in a bunch over a fuckin cartoon.

[Lev]

Originally Posted by -Turk-

you're just as sad as those idoits getting they're panties in a bunch over a fuckin cartoon.

Allies don't do that to allies, which Turkey claims to be to America, Mr. Turk.

[JamesK2]

lol freedom of speech

[warlock5]

Seriously, how many American movies involve Americans killing innocent people? This is non-news.

[crockett]

gotta love how the Doctor just happens to be Jewish.. They like to cover all their bases when they spread the hate. lol Maybe they will add in a Danish skinhead in the sequal.

[Theo]

the surprise would be if they actually manage to kill any terrorist lol

[Theo]

Originally Posted by crockett

gotta love how the Doctor just happens to be Jewish.. They like to cover all their bases when they spread the hate. lol Maybe they will add in a Danish skinhead in the sequal.

and the nurse is greek

[DBS.US]

Just for fun lets Black list Billy Zane and Gary Busey (Terrorist sympathizers)

[Lev]

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

and the nurse is greek

lol, I am surprised no Armenians in the movie, then it would be one hateful movie

[Theo]

Originally Posted by Lev

lol, I am surprised no Armenians in the movie, then it would be one hateful movie

who told you? the funeral guy is armenian

[Rui]

[sarcasm] OMG...I mean do they wanna give the idea the americans killed civilians in Iraq?...damm bastards for telling such lies [/sarcasm]

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thats kool.

Islamic retards done the same thing a number of times.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rui

[sarcasm] OMG...I mean do they wanna give the idea the americans killed civilians in Iraq?...damm bastards for telling such lies [/sarcasm]

No one claims civilians haven't been killed.. I'm sure there have been more than necessary killed which is fucked up.. However films like this are just made to try to make muslims hate Americans and the Jews even more.

It's not like Every American troop is running around Iraq capping off every civilain he see's. The troops are in a bad situation, and they have to do what they can do to keep themselves alive.

[Rochard]

Gee, I see that American movies portray all Muslims in a very positive fucking light, right?

[Theo]

Originally Posted by RocHard

Gee, I see that American movies portray all Muslims in a very positive fucking light, right?

true, they give them the best roles:

terrorists, rapists, thieves, murderers

[Gawdy]

Gotta love freedom of speech

Or is it only allowed when it supports your own views?

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by BigCashCrew

"The movie's American stars are
Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and
Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor."

WTF?

Haha really?

Two somewhat talented actors who have become has beens.

Billy always gets crazy roles now, and Gary well he is crazy.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

true, they give them the best roles:

terrorists, rapists, thieves, murderers

What about Tony Shalhoub? He rocks and never really plays these parts. However, he did pay a cab driver for X years on wings.

[Lev]

The thing is Turkey does not have freedom of speech, they imprison people for insulting Turkey or speaking their mind, how fucked up is that? Selective freedom of speech does not constitute freedom of speech. This movie is just going to create more hate, which the world and especially America does not need, again especially from its long time "ally".

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Maybe Americans oughtah go burn down the Turkish embassy.

[reynold]

Originally Posted by Antonio

Americans Kill Innocents in Iraq. Period.

as for the Jewish doctor selling short organs on eBay, don't know about that...

It may be hard to accept, but it is the truth, is it not?
Not only did Americans kills innocent Iraqis, but Afghans, Asians, Russians, etc, as well. History will attest to that.

[buraque]

Originally Posted by Lev

The thing is Turkey does not have freedom of speech, they imprison people for insulting Turkey or speaking their mind, how fucked up is that? Selective freedom of speech does not constitute freedom of speech. This movie is just going to create more hate, which the world and especially America does not need, again especially from its long time "ally".

Are you Turkish? Or when is the last time you've been to Turkey? Name me one person that has been imprisoned for insulting Turkey or speaking his mind in the last say 10-15 years. Just one single name.
and blaming Turkey for such a movie is no different than blaming the Danish government for the Mohammed cartoons. Plus I could name you a dozen movies and tv shows which depict turks, arabs, the other muslims, etc... as terrorists.
or is it that you believe in freedom of speech only when that speech complies with yours?

[The Sultan Of Smut]

I bet Billy Zane and Gary Busy are gonna be quite unpopular.

[Lev]

Originally Posted by buraque

Are you Turkish? Or when is the last time you've been to Turkey? Name me one person that has been imprisoned for insulting Turkey or speaking his mind in the last say 10-15 years. Just one single name.
and blaming Turkey for such a movie is no different than blaming the Danish government for the Mohammed cartoons. Plus I could name you a dozen movies and tv shows which depict turks, arabs, the other muslims, etc... as terrorists.
or is it that you believe in freedom of speech only when that speech complies with yours?

http://www.ihd.org.tr/eindex.html

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle...9ba9062e8.html

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmu...9-16&type=News

http://hrw.org/doc/?t=europe&c=turkey

Should I post more?

You can easily go to prison in Turkey if you insult "Turkey", it is part of your country's penal code in case you just woke up!
Again, showing a movie like that in Turkey will ignite unnessecary hate towards Americans, like the book Mein Kampf, which is a bestseller in Turkey against Jews:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43380

And thank you for your warm invitation, but I would never step my foot in your uncivilized country.

[Nurgle]

what stupid americans upset by the truth again?

[buraque]

Originally Posted by Lev

ihd.org.tr/eindex.html

rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/12/b918d372-13df-48d1-87b5-4f09ba9062e8.html

euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm%3A29-110569-16&type=News

hrw.org/doc/?t=europe&c=turkey

Should I post more?

You can easily go to prison in Turkey if you insult "Turkey", it is part of your country's penal code in case you just woke up!
Again, showing a movie like that in Turkey will ignite unnessecary hate towards Americans, like the book Mein Kampf, which is a bestseller in Turkey against Jews:

worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43380

And thank you for your warm invitation, but I would never step my foot in your uncivilized country.

Just to set one thing right, it was not an invitation. Obviously your 'civilised' country didn't stop you from being ignorant. It is true that insulting Turkey has its place in the penal code, just like death penalty did until a couple of years ago, only it had never been executed for more than 10 years maybe, until it was finally removed from the code. (as much as uncivilised we are, we do not kill people for their crimes) although that insult law is in effect, it is not really 'in effect'. Since you know much about Turkey, I'm sure you also know that all the charges against O.Pamuk were dropped. The trial never happened.

Hitler's Mein Kampf being one of the best sellers doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. I'm sure you can figure out easily that Turkey has had better relations with Israel than all of her neighbours. As for the movie igniting unnecessary hate towards Americans; the answer is right there; it is a movie,a movie which i'm planning to see in a couple of days with an American friend of mine who has been living here for some time now. And even if the movie is igniting hatred towards Americans, well you know, it's just cause and effect. Nothing happens by itself. If you think that you can just go and bomb a country ,which in reality poses no threat for you, saying that it's developing some chemical weapons (which later turned out that there were none, and your government knew it in the first place), and kill innocent people in the process, i guess you can't expect them to love you. I suggest you check this site out Mr 'I live in a civilised country'
robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
These people were killed for no reason, no chemical weapons, no threat nothing. If this is part of being civilised, thanks, i don't want it.

ps. Before calling this part of the world uncivilised i suggest you learn history better.

[The Duck]

[The Duck]

Btw, I have actually been in Turkey, Ichmeler.

[Lev]

Originally Posted by buraque

Just to set one thing right, it was not an invitation. Obviously your 'civilised' country didn't stop you from being ignorant. It is true that insulting Turkey has its place in the penal code, just like death penalty did until a couple of years ago, only it had never been executed for more than 10 years maybe, until it was finally removed from the code. (as much as uncivilised we are, we do not kill people for their crimes) although that insult law is in effect, it is not really 'in effect'. Since you know much about Turkey, I'm sure you also know that all the charges against O.Pamuk were dropped. The trial never happened.

Hitler's Mein Kampf being one of the best sellers doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. I'm sure you can figure out easily that Turkey has had better relations with Israel than all of her neighbours. As for the movie igniting unnecessary hate towards Americans; the answer is right there; it is a movie,a movie which i'm planning to see in a couple of days with an American friend of mine who has been living here for some time now. And even if the movie is igniting hatred towards Americans, well you know, it's just cause and effect. Nothing happens by itself. If you think that you can just go and bomb a country ,which in reality poses no threat for you, saying that it's developing some chemical weapons (which later turned out that there were none, and your government knew it in the first place), and kill innocent people in the process, i guess you can't expect them to love you. I suggest you check this site out Mr 'I live in a civilised country'
robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
These people were killed for no reason, no chemical weapons, no threat nothing. If this is part of being civilised, thanks, i don't want it.

ps. Before calling this part of the world uncivilised i suggest you learn history better.

You mean your bloody history? Your country is build on other people's blood, Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Kurds ect..Lets not forget the 1.5 million Armenains who your ancestors ruthlessly butchered, and this way then annexed the Eastern Anatolia to the modern day country, a land which these people lived for over 3000 years.

Pamuk was never convicted because, first of all he is very famous in Europe and second, EU put too much pressure on Turkey. If EU did not intervene your "civlilized" politcians, especially the extreeme Turkish elite, who rule your country would love to see him rot in prison. But for the other less famous writes, it was not the case, like for Hrant Dink who faces prison:

http://www.ihd.org.tr/press

Is this how a "civilized" country deals with demonstrations, by killing the demonstrators:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/11/18/turkey12064.htm

Human rights defenders get death-threats:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/04/20/turkey10516.htm

So, after all I am not the ignorant one, but you. You know nothing about your country's bloody history, I guess your school's do a very good job at brainwashing people, like they did for the past 83 years since the creation your "country".

[Lev]

So please, you are the last person on earth who should critice America's actions, your country killed more people and commited a Genocide to get to where it is now, so please shut your mouth and hit the history books ASAP!

[JamesK2]

Originally Posted by Lev

So, after all I am not the ignorant one, but you. You know nothing about your country's bloody history, I guess your school's do a very good job at brainwashing people, like they did for the past 83 years since the creation your "country".

Man will ya shut up already? Talking about brainwashing people... fucking propaganda is everywhere, especially in America. You don't hear him saying Turkey has a perfect history, 'cause it hasn't and we all know about the genocide.

Do you know how many movies show American soldiers killing innocent civilians? It's not like this is anything special. It's the reality. You think all American soldiers love Iraqi's and want them to have freedom? Give me a break

Killing innocent people is and always has been a part of war. Sad but true.

[haig]

ha

Originally Posted by Lev

The thing is Turkey does not have freedom of speech, they imprison people for insulting Turkey or speaking their mind, how fucked up is that?
Selective freedom of speech does not constitute freedom of speech. This movie is just going to create more hate, which the world and especially America
does not need, again especially from its long time "ally".

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if you don't want to more & more hate, don't kill people, don't suc theyer resourcess, don't make them hungry, you are not owner of the world.
other people, other cultures, other rilegens live in there, you can try to be respectfull againce them.
i hav American friends; 1 of them is really my neare friend, i can show our msn logs if you want, how we likes to each other, how we hav friendship...
i'm not saying other shits; i know just 1 think is enough "Peace"
Chears.

[serguei]

But how about Vietnam, Japan or Croatia? This is the real things....

[Corleone]

Originally Posted by Lev

You mean your bloody history? Your country is build on other people's blood, Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Kurds ect..

every country has a bloody history I think....

[Rui]

Originally Posted by crockett

No one claims civilians haven't been killed.. I'm sure there have been more than necessary killed which is fucked up.. However films like this are just made to try to make muslims hate Americans and the Jews even more.

It's not like Every American troop is running around Iraq capping off every civilain he see's. The troops are in a bad situation, and they have to do what they can do to keep themselves alive.

The contrary has been made (and alot more than once)....

[Lev]

Originally Posted by JamesK

Man will ya shut up already? Talking about brainwashing people... fucking propaganda is everywhere, especially in America. You don't hear him saying Turkey has a perfect history, 'cause it hasn't and we all know about the genocide.

Do you know how many movies show American soldiers killing innocent civilians? It's not like this is anything special. It's the reality. You think all American soldiers love Iraqi's and want them to have freedom? Give me a break

Killing innocent people is and always has been a part of war. Sad but true.

am I talking to you fucktard?

[minsthunder]

I hope someone posts a link to a fan sub torrent of that vid. . it would be interesting at worst. .

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Lev

am I talking to you fucktard?

IMPORTANT INFO: you are on a bulletin board , not a private chat room ...

[haig]

ha

Originally Posted by Lev

You mean your bloody history? Your country is build on other people's blood, Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Kurds ect..Lets not forget the 1.5
million Armenains who your ancestors ruthlessly butchered, and this way then annexed the Eastern Anatolia to the modern day country, a land which these
people lived for over 3000 years.

Pamuk was never convicted because, first of all he is very famous in Europe and second, EU put too much pressure on Turkey. If EU did not intervene your
"civlilized" politcians, especially the extreeme Turkish elite, who rule your country would love to see him rot in prison. But for the other less famous
writes, it was not the case, like for Hrant Dink who faces prison:

http://www.ihd.org.tr/press

Is this how a "civilized" country deals with demonstrations, by killing the demonstrators:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/11/18/turkey12064.htm

Human rights defenders get death-threats:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/04/20/turkey10516.htm

So, after all I am not the ignorant one, but you. You know nothing about your country's bloody history, I guess your school's do a very good job at brainwashing
people, like they did for the past 83 years since the creation your "country".

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Our Bluddy History? are You Serius?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
you are really funny, you are saying him learn about history, we know what is history; we didn't setup our goverment 207 years ago as America; we had 16
great Empires.
btw. do you know what the fuck is Kurdish; get your hand a Persian Dictionary; & again get Your hand a dictionary wich has fake language "kurdish" Dictionary,
you will se here %60-70 of the Kurdish language is persian language, nearely %30 is a from Arabic, Turkish & other etnic groups of Aria.
in adition learn about when Saddam huseyn make a atac Kurdish people; who save them from Saddam, who gave them Pasport & other Toilet papers to who are
son of bitch Celal Talabani & Mesud Barzani.
they wher traveling with Turkiye red pasport before.
& then what did kurdish motherfucker do? (Treason).
lets talk about Arminians; as first 4/1 of the 20. century they killd alot of our people to be Arminian Gangster Groups.
go to Erzurum city in Turkiye; you can hear somethinks from the old people.
& i want to say somethinks more to be last one; we had come to Anotolia as 1000 years ago somethink before Jesus Born.
Saka Turks had come to Anatolia (Anadolu) they wher great humanity olso; they had men & women woriers as Amazons.
& You can not talk about before the 3000 years ago; because this is a old time, for instens: we can say you wher not on the America continent; they wher live (redSkins) American indians wich has you killed for Your Emperialist Aims.
is it enough for You?
if you want to se bluddy History, thing about Yours; nobody forget to Black people Tragedy & our redSkin siblings, nobody forget Vietnam, nobody forget Afganistan, nobody forget Iraq & nobody will forget all middle east, nobody will forget all world.
Firstly look Your bluddy Emperialist Tragedy & you can ttalk about mine...

[haig]

ha

Originally Posted by haig

ha

___
Our Bluddy History? are You Serius?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
you are really funny, you are saying him learn about history, we know what is history; we didn't setup our goverment 207 years ago as America; we had 16
great Empires.
btw. do you know what the fuck is Kurdish; get your hand a Persian Dictionary; & again get Your hand a dictionary wich has fake language "kurdish" Dictionary,
you will se here %60-70 of the Kurdish language is persian language, nearely %30 is a from Arabic, Turkish & other etnic groups of Aria.
in adition learn about when Saddam huseyn make a atac Kurdish people; who save them from Saddam, who gave them Pasport & other Toilet papers to who are
son of bitch Celal Talabani & Mesud Barzani.
they wher traveling with Turkiye red pasport before.
& then what did kurdish motherfucker do? (Treason).
lets talk about Arminians; as first 4/1 of the 20. century they killd alot of our people to be Arminian Gangster Groups.
go to Erzurum city in Turkiye; you can hear somethinks from the old people.
& i want to say somethinks more to be last one; we had come to Anotolia as 1000 years ago somethink before Jesus Born.
Saka Turks had come to Anatolia (Anadolu) they wher great humanity olso; they had men & women woriers as Amazons.
& You can not talk about before the 3000 years ago; because this is a old time, for instens: we can say you wher not on the America continent; they wher
live (redSkins) American indians wich has you killed for Your Emperialist Aims.
is it enough for You?
if you want to se bluddy History, thing about Yours; nobody forget to Black people Tragedy & our redSkin siblings, nobody forget Vietnam, nobody forget
Afganistan, nobody forget Iraq & nobody will forget all middle east, nobody will forget all world.
Firstly look Your bluddy Emperialist Tragedic history & you can ttalk about mine...

[Lev]

Originally Posted by haig

ha

___
Our Bluddy History? are You Serius?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
you are really funny, you are saying him learn about history, we know what is history; we didn't setup our goverment 207 years ago as America; we had 16
great Empires.
btw. do you know what the fuck is Kurdish; get your hand a Persian Dictionary; & again get Your hand a dictionary wich has fake language "kurdish" Dictionary,
you will se here %60-70 of the Kurdish language is persian language, nearely %30 is a from Arabic, Turkish & other etnic groups of Aria.
in adition learn about when Saddam huseyn make a atac Kurdish people; who save them from Saddam, who gave them Pasport & other Toilet papers to who are
son of bitch Celal Talabani & Mesud Barzani.
they wher traveling with Turkiye red pasport before.
& then what did kurdish motherfucker do? (Treason).
lets talk about Arminians; as first 4/1 of the 20. century they killd alot of our people to be Arminian Gangster Groups.
go to Erzurum city in Turkiye; you can hear somethinks from the old people.
& i want to say somethinks more to be last one; we had come to Anotolia as 1000 years ago somethink before Jesus Born.
Saka Turks had come to Anatolia (Anadolu) they wher great humanity olso; they had men & women woriers as Amazons.
& You can not talk about before the 3000 years ago; because this is a old time, for instens: we can say you wher not on the America continent; they wher live (redSkins) American indians wich has you killed for Your Emperialist Aims.
is it enough for You?
if you want to se bluddy History, thing about Yours; nobody forget to Black people Tragedy & our redSkin siblings, nobody forget Vietnam, nobody forget Afganistan, nobody forget Iraq & nobody will forget all middle east, nobody will forget all world.
Firstly look Your bluddy Emperialist Tragedy & you can ttalk about mine...

learn English, then we can talk!