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Old 07-26-2006, 05:52 PM   #1
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"Deathmatch" Joesho declines

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=637722

Overnight, 2 months of Joe wanting to kick my ass goes away because his wife, lawyer, and partners says so.
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Don't worry I'll still kick your ass Anthony.
You'll just have to hold still, this heat is killing me and I won't be able to expend much more energy than lifting a beer.
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Overnight, 2 months of Joe wanting to kick my ass goes away because his wife, lawyer, and partners says so.
Alright you're alive! Tomorrow we'll get that shit done
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Sounds like a pretty rational decision to me.
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Not only that, but this is the fight that Joesho originally challenged Anthony to, NOT the other way around.
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Yes you did. Who would have figured Joesho a coward?

Okay, we all did, but it's good to have public record of it.
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Yes you did. Who would have figured Joesho a coward?

Okay, we all did, but it's good to have public record of it.

I like you Anthony, but I dont think that Joe chosing business over ego makes him a coward. I think it finally makes him smart. If you think about it for a minute, you might realize that too. In fact, it's rather silly and juvinille to be bashing him because what, because he listened to reason and didn't fight you?

I like you Ant, but you need to grow up a little about this and realize that the whole fighting thing was a TOTALLY RETARDED iedea in the first place, on BOTH your parts. You and Joe have both spent the last several years stutting around like horny roosters and you've both made quite the fools out of yourselves. To be perfectly honest, it's nice to see ONE of you finally coming to their senses and STOP acting like this is a fucking elementary school playground. In a million years, if this was ANY other industry, would any of this bullshit been tolerated without massive ridicule and the loss of jobs of BOTH parties involved? I don't particularly care what you and Joe have slung at each other over the years, but perhaps it's time you BOTH sat down and talked about it. These kinds of things tend to resolve themselves quickly when cooler heads prevail.

It's about time you guys stopped acting like squabbling children and started acting like businesspeople, because frankly all the fisticuffs posing was getting REALLY fucking old.

Think about this for a minute
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Don't worry I'll still kick your ass Anthony.
You'll just have to hold still, this heat is killing me and I won't be able to expend much more energy than lifting a beer.
I've come down in weight for you Lance. I'm at 245lbs, versus 275lbs last year!

I am a hobbyist, I only do this for fun. Big props to real MMA fighters like yourself.
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I like you Anthony, but I dont think that Joe chosing business over ego makes him a coward. I think it finally makes him smart. If you think about it for a minute, you might realize that too. In fact, it's rather silly and juvinille to be bashing him because what, because he listened to reason and didn't fight you?

I like you Ant, but you need to grow up a little about this and realize that the whole fighting thing was a TOTALLY RETARDED iedea in the first place, on BOTH your parts. You and Joe have both spent the last several years stutting around like horny roosters and you've both made quite the fools out of yourselves. To be perfectly honest, it's nice to see ONE of you finally coming to their senses and STOP acting like this is a fucking elementary school playground. In a million years, if this was ANY other industry, would any of this bullshit been tolerated without massive ridicule and the loss of jobs of BOTH parties involved? I don't particularly care what you and Joe have slung at each other over the years, but perhaps it's time you BOTH sat down and talked about it. These kinds of things tend to resolve themselves quickly when cooler heads prevail.

It's about time you guys stopped acting like squabbling children and started acting like businesspeople, because frankly all the fisticuffs posing was getting REALLY fucking old.

Think about this for a minute
You really think that made up shit was a business decision? Why didn't those people tell him those things 2 months ago?! When HE threatned to kick my ass because I owned him in his 25 million dollar giveaway thread?

I expressely told him that if he attacked me at the show I would have him arressted and sued. His tried to piss with me in a thread about macdaddybucks.com and the only thing that he kept going on was kicking my ass.

I have no qualms throwing down, and gave him a legal way to do so. So I painted him into a corner with accepting, now I'm a bad guy?

Sorry T, but I'm not the bad guy here.
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That doesn't even begin to cover the impositions you BOTH put everyone in by basically forcing them to choose sides. I don't like chosing sides, I have friends in both "camps". I just like to do business, and that's THAT.
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You really think that made up shit was a business decision? Why didn't those people tell him those things 2 months ago?! When HE threatned to kick my ass because I owned him in his 25 million dollar giveaway thread?

I expressely told him that if he attacked me at the show I would have him arressted and sued. His tried to piss with me in a thread about macdaddybucks.com and the only thing that he kept going on was kicking my ass.

I have no qualms throwing down, and gave him a legal way to do so. So I painted him into a corner with accepting, now I'm a bad guy?

Sorry T, but I'm not the bad guy here.

Hey I know as well as you that Joe said a lot of things that weren't true.. In fact, I was a "victim" of his attacks many times. I don't always agree with Joe, but I have to respect his decision to choose business over this squabble sweetie. It looks worse on YOU right now to be bashing on him for NOT fighting, because when it comes to BUSINESS, which is what we're all here for, it looks really bad. Joe made his own bed to lie in, don't add more nails to yours.
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That doesn't even begin to cover the impositions you BOTH put everyone in by basically forcing them to choose sides. I don't like chosing sides, I have friends in both "camps". I just like to do business, and that's THAT.
HOLY FUCK. Have I asked you to choose sides? This isn't about you, this is about the big mouth Joesho has that has now caught up to him.

If anyone asked you to choose sides, I would look very closely at the person doing so.
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Hey I know as well as you that Joe said a lot of things that weren't true.. In fact, I was a "victim" of his attacks many times. I don't always agree with Joe, but I have to respect his decision to choose business over this squabble sweetie. It looks worse on YOU right now to be bashing on him for NOT fighting, because when it comes to BUSINESS, which is what we're all here for, it looks really bad. Joe made his own bed to lie in, don't add more nails to yours.
I'm not bashing him for not fighting.

I'm bashing him for talking the talk, and failing at the walk.

EVERYONE should see how Joesho the business man threatens people with violence when they disagree with him and then runs with his tail between his legs using other people as his scapegoats.
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HOLY FUCK. Have I asked you to choose sides? This isn't about you, this is about the big mouth Joesho has that has now caught up to him.

If anyone asked you to choose sides, I would look very closely at the person doing so.

Honey, you never ASKED anyone to choose sides, but in a situation like this, oftentimes people have no choice. It affeccts business no matter which way you go, and it turns into a popularity contest that isn't focused on business anymore, it's all about the shit that's slung. You are a big enough man to rise above bullshit when someone says shit about you that isn't true. There is no neccessity to carry it anywhere beyond that... you made your point.
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I'm not bashing him for not fighting.

I'm bashing him for talking the talk, and failing at the walk.

EVERYONE should see how Joesho the business man threatens people with violence when they disagree with him and then runs with his tail between his legs using other people as his scapegoats.

Ok, yes I understand that. Like I say Joe had his go at me several times over the years too... but, sometimes people can change, I prefer to give people the benifit of the doubt. How much more gratifying is it to see someone dig their own grave than have people looking at you like you're crazy because you're dancing on it in a chickensuit?

I'm not saying your a bad guy sweetie, you know I adore you, but the time has come to put it to rest, and if Joe stumbles and screws up, that is HIS path. Yours should take you above and beyond the need to call attention to his every screwup. Pretty sure most people who care will notice these things themselves and make their business decisions accordingly.
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Honey, you never ASKED anyone to choose sides, but in a situation like this, oftentimes people have no choice. It affeccts business no matter which way you go, and it turns into a popularity contest that isn't focused on business anymore, it's all about the shit that's slung. You are a big enough man to rise above bullshit when someone says shit about you that isn't true. There is no neccessity to carry it anywhere beyond that... you made your point.
Treasure,

Exsposing Joesho for the fraud and coward that he is by me, is a public service.

EVERYONE should see how Joesho conducts business, poorly.
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Ok, yes I understand that. Like I say Joe had his go at me several times over the years too... but, sometimes people can change, I prefer to give people the benifit of the doubt. How much more gratifying is it to see someone dig their own grave than have people looking at you like you're crazy because you're dancing on it in a chickensuit?

I'm not saying your a bad guy sweetie, you know I adore you, but the time has come to put it to rest, and if Joe stumbles and screws up, that is HIS path. Yours should take you above and beyond the need to call attention to his every screwup. Pretty sure most people who care will notice these things themselves and make their business decisions accordingly.
The feeling is mutual.

This isn't the first time, and I want record to fall back on GFY for the next time Joe decides to do this again.

I'm a bastard like that.
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Overnight, 2 months of Joe wanting to kick my ass goes away because his wife, lawyer, and partners says so.
Any man with half a clue would listen to those forced combined. And a man who says he would NOT listen to his wife, lawyer and business partners is either an idiot or a liar.
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The feeling is mutual.

This isn't the first time, and I want record to fall back on GFY for the next time Joe decides to do this again.

I'm a bastard like that.

I know you are, it's part of your charm sweetie. Joe and I kind of silently buried the hatchet over the years I think because to be honest, we both got tired of fighting about it. Besides, you know me I'm the furthest thing from someone who creates drama and bs on the boards, and without something fuelling the fire, it tends to die out. In fact, I look forward to meeting him finally in person in Florida over a drink and a chat.

The future holds it's secrets close and I don't know what it holds, but going forward on a positive note is always my solution. Besides, I'm bound by the threefold rule, and in my life I have always found that it IS true, what you send out comes back to you. Joe has his path, you have yours.

Are YOU going to be in Florida too sweetie?
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True?

Also, I thought TD told you to keep this shit off this board?

One more question, are you Rick Ross or the asian guy pictured with him in that photo you posted that one time?
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I like you Anthony, but I dont think that Joe chosing business over ego makes him a coward. I think it finally makes him smart. If you think about it for a minute, you might realize that too. In fact, it's rather silly and juvinille to be bashing him because what, because he listened to reason and didn't fight you?
It actually shows that Joe's wife, lawyer and partners are the only ones who can protect him from himself. He was the one who wanted this fight. Ant had the common sense to make it NOT a street fight but instead have some rules. Joe was still game until it seems everyone around him had to show him he had nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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So, there's NOT going to be a fight over by the bikeracks after school?

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It actually shows that Joe's wife, lawyer and partners are the only ones who can protect him from himself. He was the one who wanted this fight. Ant had the common sense to make it NOT a street fight but instead have some rules. Joe was still game until it seems everyone around him had to show him he had nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Perhaps that's true. Perhaps Joe had an epiphany. Perhaps he will do the same thing again in a month, day, year, whenever. I don't know and honestly I hope Joe has seen the light. I have seem some pretty amazing and dramatic changes in people in the business over my 8ish years in it. And then I have seen people who claim to make changes but fall right back into old patterns. Their actions always speak for themselves, and there are always reprecussions. Personally I just hate to see the whole thing raised to the next level AGAIN over what.. proving a point? You know as well as I do Peaches that these situations have a way of biting ALL involved parties in the ass. I just hate to think it happening in this one.

Besides, it's like punishing a child twice for the same crime. We all know the history, and anybody who doesn't has obviously been living in a cardboard box with their head in the sand the last few years. however, that being said, isn't it better to let people's actions/words speak for themselves, and perhaps give them an opportunity to develop as a person? Anyone who says a leopard CAN'T change it's spots apparently don't realize the strength and power of the human mind and willpower. All I do know is that everyone is tired of hearing about it, and there comes a point in time when it's the time to move on. Hell, that time was what, two years ago?
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True?

Also, I thought TD told you to keep this shit off this board?

One more question, are you Rick Ross or the asian guy pictured with him in that photo you posted that one time?
I'm the small asian guy next to him.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:21 AM   #40
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hey anthony when I called joe out he backed down as well... and he lives in my town so....
D,

When he originally threatened to kick my ass anytime, anywhere, I said next month at the xbiz show, he declined, saying he was on vacation.

Nothing for you to worry about, but thanks anyway.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:39 AM   #41
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D,

When he originally threatened to kick my ass anytime, anywhere, I said next month at the xbiz show, he declined, saying he was on vacation.

Nothing for you to worry about, but thanks anyway.
yeah he did the same with me as well.... was like anytime anywhere... even said that when he saw me at the show vegas where you and I met.. that he was going to stomp me... blah blah... joe runs his mouth more than I do... LOL how are things bro everything good?
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:37 AM   #43
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..... I think it finally makes him smart.

yeah. joe is smart.

a genius.


maybe he would have the balls to take an IQ challenge.



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There are a few guys on these boards who are notorious for calling people out or threatening others with a so-called asskicking. Fact is, most if not all of them should shove their massive egos aside and just shut the fuck up and get on with business. Real men doen't talk about kicking someone's ass, if it truly needs doing they just fucking go do it. Period. No board-yapping, no threats, no nothing.

Actions people. Actions.

I've noticed several threads over the past year or more where Joesho has puffed the chest and called someone out or threated to "see them at a show", and he's not the only one. Funny thing is, if you're the type to keep making such posts then you're the LAST person who should be backing down when called to the carpet, business or no business.

If you don't want to risk your business then maybe some here (not just Joeshmoe, you know who you are) should try doing a lot less cocking off. No one really gives a shit about your "martial arts training" for fuck sakes. I too have nearly 10 years of it, I think I've mentioned it maybe once in the past 5 years, and not to threaten anyone.

The question some need to ask themselves is.. "when do I decide to grow up?"

Now have a nice day. Go get a haircut. :D
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I'm the small asian guy next to him.
Didn't really size you up, anyways, how come you threatened arrest orr lawsuite? Not a very tough guy thing to do!
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This whole "fighting" thing solves nothing and is a huge waste of time/energy no matter what way you look at it.
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There are a few guys on these boards who are notorious for calling people out or threatening others with a so-called asskicking. Fact is, most if not all of them should shove their massive egos aside and just shut the fuck up and get on with business. Real men doen't talk about kicking someone's ass, if it truly needs doing they just fucking go do it. Period. No board-yapping, no threats, no nothing.

Actions people. Actions.

I've noticed several threads over the past year or more where Joesho has puffed the chest and called someone out or threated to "see them at a show", and he's not the only one. Funny thing is, if you're the type to keep making such posts then you're the LAST person who should be backing down when called to the carpet, business or no business.

If you don't want to risk your business then maybe some here (not just Joeshmoe, you know who you are) should try doing a lot less cocking off. No one really gives a shit about your "martial arts training" for fuck sakes. I too have nearly 10 years of it, I think I've mentioned it maybe once in the past 5 years, and not to threaten anyone.

The question some need to ask themselves is.. "when do I decide to grow up?"

Now have a nice day. Go get a haircut. :D
When are you gonna make it to a show, so I can say, "I'll see you at a show"?

I owe you a cuddle or two.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:33 AM   #48
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Didn't really size you up, anyways, how come you threatened arrest orr lawsuite? Not a very tough guy thing to do!
I'm not a tough guy, I am a businessman. I train in BJJ and have a CCW. If it gets down to fighting because someone assaults me, it means I missed with all 13 rounds.

Joesho is the internet tough guy.
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This whole "fighting" thing solves nothing and is a huge waste of time/energy no matter what way you look at it.
I agree, it's your friend Joesho who you need to aim this too.
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I agree, it's your friend Joesho who you need to aim this too.
I didn't aim it to anyone in particular, just a general statement. And believe me, Joesho wanted to fight me long before he had ever heard of you.

But that, like this... is now in the past.
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