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Choker sending fake traffic?
I purchased a few K of traffic from choker today. (I had some credit with them) Anyway, I'm logging the activity and noticed something a bit odd...
Hundreds of ips in the same range: 195.93.21.x - Where x is a random number The MAJORITY (~90%) of them viewed ONE random gallery and then closed the site. There's no way that's real traffic... |
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Drama alert
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You wouldnt happen to be the guy who owes him 20g eh?
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you owe him 20k just pay up biaaaaaaaaaaatch
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bump for an explanation
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Head, prepare to meet ass...
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OH SHITT!!!
Damn, that is some damaging allegations.
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BACON BACON BACON
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hmm this thread after the other one....hmmmm
those ips could be explained by a college or something..tons of people in the same ip range...just checking out a gallery here or there |
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#9 |
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Looking through more of the logged ips, and am noticing its happening a lot more than I thought. Perhaps it's someone cheating choker (most likely) but I'm definitely not buying if this continues. I'll use up my credit and I'm done with them.
Here's a sample from the range I posted above. 195.93.21.100 195.93.21.101 195.93.21.103 195.93.21.2 195.93.21.3 195.93.21.34 195.93.21.35 195.93.21.36 195.93.21.37 195.93.21.38 195.93.21.4 195.93.21.41 195.93.21.42 195.93.21.5 195.93.21.67 195.93.21.7 195.93.21.74 195.93.21.8 195.93.21.97 195.93.21.98 195.93.60.106 195.93.60.129 All of these came into the site within a few minutes of each other. |
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In the IP list above, ALL of them came in within 5 minutes of each other, viewed ONE gallery from a RANDOM paysite and left immediately after that.
ALL clicked a total of 2 times. Those that didn't view a gallery, clicked on a page, followed by a paysite, then closed it. Not what I'd call normal surfing... There's no question these are fake. |
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ummm this sucks I just bought a bunch of traffic from him.
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lets see what choker has to say about it. any comment on the subject choker? ![]()
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The problem is that I'm using this traffic to guage visitors surfing patterns on my new site so that I can tweak things to make it more sticky... As such, I'm sending the traffic in blocks, looking at what they do, adjusting and then buying another block... It's impossible to do this if the majority of the traffic is fake since I'm running on averages. After buying the traffic, my click-thru ratio to paysites dropped from around 50% to 5%... |
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what a crap... bump!
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I don't understand why this guy didn't go directly to choker and let him know the problem. It could be a simple fact that someone is cheating him, Yet you turn around and make it as if he purposely doing it.
This is why the adult industry is so fucked up |
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#17 |
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195.93.21.x is one of AOL's proxy server-parks
It just mean you have a lot or shitty AOL traffic. Stop buying bulk traffic, its worthless - absolutely worthless |
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lol, like circle jerk traffic even if it was real would do anything... fact is, it's traffic, if it had value it wouldnt be for sale
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wow this is interesting I was just planning to buy traffic from choker maybe I should reconsider.
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Again...this is why the adult industry is so fucked up, Choker is a standup guy and you sit here and bash his traffic without even so much as hitting him up via email or messenger. I am sure taking 10 minutes out of your busy schedule will just fuck your world all the hell up. Everyone is susceptible to fraud, He may not be aware of it...I guess he is now...Because you couldn't take 10 minutes out of your busy schedule to let him know via email or icq. Class A man...Class A! |
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Open a DOS prompt and type: tracert IP adress (press enter) It will give you something like: Tracing route to cache-los-ad04.proxy.aol.com [195.93.21.100] Check one ip-adress from every ip-range and see if im not right |
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my oh my
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i been buying from choker for a few months now.
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Anxious to hear what Choker has to say about this.
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AOL proxies have for long been whitelisted by traffic brokers, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a nifty way run a hitbot through them. In that case, I'm sure Choker is at a loss on this as well, as he's also on the receiving end of hitbot traffic.
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He said he bought what?... a few thousand hits? Christ sakes that's a spit in a bucket. I've bought blocks of traffic in the 300k range from Choker in the past, hell I think I have close to that owed me in "chicken eggs" or whatever he calls them. I've never had a problem with his traffic, but if there currently IS a problem then wouldn't it have been better to just talk directly to him and see if the problem can't be remedied? ...instead of coming on GFY and cocking off like an idiot. Should trashing someone publicly be the FIRST thing people do in a situation? I think it should be the last.
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The thread title has a question mark not an exclamation point behind it.
He may get better/quicker service if he posts it here and directly to Choker. I don't think what he is doing is trashing Choker. One post from Choker can clear this up. Are you upset with Choker for mentioning the 20 GRand he is owed here? We don't really need to know that do we? He is saying pay me, or I out you here isn't he? Choker will get better results if he makes this grievence public. |
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I've bought 100s of K of both gallery traffic and feeder traffic from Choker and it has always been good.
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an explanation is required.. if this is true... this is bad... tsk!
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uhm 0:9000, as all circle traffic is, if real closed window instantly, so they can pop up another page to another victum
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This Thread is amusing...
I also am contemplating buying traffic from Choker... So what have you ...
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choker traffic rules
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Lets apply your logic to other situations My hosting is down...Do I..... A.) Make a thread on gfy about my hosting being down B.) Contact my hostings support staff C.) Nothing My car got broken into...Do I.... A.) Contact the police B.) Find a local forum that a police officer visits and make a thread C.) Nothing I think I am getting fake traffic from Choker...Do I.... A.) Contact Lensman from GFY B.) Contact Choker C.) Make a thread on gfy asking everyone else D.) Call juicy Things that make ya go humm |
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wjhat a dumb ass addded to ignore if he had not posted this I or someone else could have wasted and or lost money |
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How much traffic has he sold...Why would he start sending fake traffic now? Excuse me for not caring that I am on your ignore list... Your statement proves my point...People might get the wrong idea about chokers traffic without any justification...Had he went to choker and choker didn't contact him back or told him to fuck off...Yeah...then make a thread bout it... Your just as fucken stupid as he is at this point |
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(E) All of the above ;) |
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One guys problem won't make me not buy Choker traffic. I would like to hear the explanation. Of course Choker isn't trying to rip anyone off. The poster posed a question. Let's hear the answer.
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The traffic you get from choker comes from sites that sell traffic to choker,,, I am 99% certain that one of the resellers is cheating choker.. the cheater is probably using a hitbot to earn $$ to buyback real traffic,, Check the referring urls for those ips & see if they all come from the same site,,
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you are an idiot if you have a qaulity product people will buy regardless of any complaints all issues should be made public like this it keeps everyone in a straight line and on their toes what if choker really was sending fake traffic on purpose and he contacted choker and choker said ok you got me I will fix yours but lets keep this between us?????????????????????????????????? full disclosure in a free market is the only way to go and with that you really do go on ignore now bye forever idiot |
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BACON BACON BACON
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he is travelling right now i would guess.
most likely has no idea that this is going on. give the guy time....everyone leaves their computers around internext time |
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and you're calling orl360 an idiot?? I sincerely hope it's "goodbye forever", this board could do with less goofballs like you.
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Anyways yes perfect plan...because choker made an extra $8 ripping him off...Thanks for the new thread in my honor ;) |
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