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Old 08-03-2006, 04:22 PM   #101
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:25 PM   #102
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I know this little habit of yours is getting old.


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Old 08-03-2006, 04:34 PM   #103
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Hey fuck you. You don't tell me what to do.
I didn't trash anyone, I came to a forum and asked a question why chokers traffic was the way it is. :

LOL you just don't get it

you should be rewarded for your stupidity
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:15 PM   #104
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I purchased a few K of traffic from choker today. (I had some credit with them) Anyway, I'm logging the activity and noticed something a bit odd...

Hundreds of ips in the same range:
195.93.21.x - Where x is a random number

The MAJORITY (~90%) of them viewed ONE random gallery and then closed the site.

There's no way that's real traffic...
heh. those are aol ip's, there could be one surfer that hit 10 of your gallerys and it could show up as a different proxy for each click. they do weird shit there

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:25 PM   #105
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heh. those are aol ip's, there could be one surfer that hit 10 of your gallerys and it could show up as a different proxy for each click. they do weird shit there

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:58 PM   #106
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You mean to say...That you actually contact him...Not post on the board? Wow thats a interesting concept
Well, when I want to post to a board about Choker Traffic because he won't answer ICQ for some reason I DO POST to HIS BOARD... You know the one? The one that is a support forum for his businesses...
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:27 PM   #107
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First off...The choker thread thing...Last time I checked he did that because the person was AVOIDING him and doing shady shit...This person has not made one attempt to contact Choker in reference to this

Lets apply your logic to other situations

My hosting is down...Do I.....

A.) Make a thread on gfy about my hosting being down

B.) Contact my hostings support staff

C.) Nothing


My car got broken into...Do I....

A.) Contact the police

B.) Find a local forum that a police officer visits and make a thread

C.) Nothing


I think I am getting fake traffic from Choker...Do I....

A.) Contact Lensman from GFY

B.) Contact Choker

C.) Make a thread on gfy asking everyone else

D.) Call juicy


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jesus, somebodys a little worked up over this
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:06 AM   #108
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I purchased a few K of traffic from choker today. (I had some credit with them) Anyway, I'm logging the activity and noticed something a bit odd...

Hundreds of ips in the same range:
195.93.21.x - Where x is a random number

The MAJORITY (~90%) of them viewed ONE random gallery and then closed the site.

There's no way that's real traffic...
Just curious, which type did you buy? Was it free_last_chance?
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:31 PM   #109
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bump cos I'm a thread killer
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:08 PM   #110
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:03 PM   #111
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... fact is, it's traffic, if it had value it wouldnt be for sale

BINGO! Smartest thing posted on this board all fucking year!!

"Traffic brokers" are the biggest Snake Oil salesmen there are ...

If you honestly want to play the game, step up and buy some Google Adwords or YPN traffic ...

I spend about $200 a month on Adwords, but I make $1200+ back from it
You do the math ...
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:21 PM   #112
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... fact is, it's traffic, if it had value it wouldnt be for sale


BINGO! Smartest thing posted on this board all fucking year!!

"Traffic brokers" are the biggest Snake Oil salesmen there are ...

If you honestly want to play the game, step up and buy some Google Adwords or YPN traffic ...

I spend about $200 a month on Adwords, but I make $1200+ back from it
You do the math ...
well then, i guess if google adwords traffic was any good they wouldnt sell it either would they.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:17 PM   #113
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well then, i guess if google adwords traffic was any good they wouldnt sell it either would they.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:57 PM   #114
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Thanks everyone for the support. Nice posting this when I was in Miami, LOL. Not even sure who this guy is, I don't see any messages from him. It would have been nice to message me in the admin instead of trying to be a big shot here, but hey I expect this sort of behaviour. Instead of jsut posting ips how about posting refering urls so we can see if this is a legitimate complaint or not.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:54 PM   #115
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Thanks everyone for the support. Nice posting this when I was in Miami, LOL. Not even sure who this guy is, I don't see any messages from him. It would have been nice to message me in the admin instead of trying to be a big shot here, but hey I expect this sort of behaviour. Instead of jsut posting ips how about posting refering urls so we can see if this is a legitimate complaint or not.
Got any idea when pay traffic will resume again?
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:58 PM   #116
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I purchased a few K of traffic from choker today. (I had some credit with them) Anyway, I'm logging the activity and noticed something a bit odd...

Hundreds of ips in the same range:
195.93.21.x - Where x is a random number

The MAJORITY (~90%) of them viewed ONE random gallery and then closed the site.

There's no way that's real traffic...

So what?
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:01 PM   #117
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Guys, you have to learn one thing however. No one will sell a really good traffic because he would like to convert it for himself. Just think about it.
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:12 PM   #118
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I have no intention of buying more traffic from them, and my credit was small enough that I don't really care beyond this post. I have enough on my plate then to worry about choker. This thread is only to post my experiance with the traffic today.

Thanks for sharing. I wish more people would share when something is rotten in Denmark, so that other people don't have to get ripped off.

I hope it gets resolved.
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:49 PM   #119
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what is there to resolve?

i bought traffic, it appeared to be shit, i'm not going to buy anymore.

made a post to warn people off.


if choker wants to explain, no one is holding him down.
I hope that the next time a customer/visitor has a problem with your website/business, that don't notify you first and just post on all the boards about their problem with your website/business.
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Guys, you have to learn one thing however. No one will sell a really good traffic because he would like to convert it for himself. Just think about it.
Ever considered that some people are better at building traffic? Why do the TGP traffic building companies work on building up clients TGPs rather than creating their own?

Selling traffic doesn't mean that it will not convert, just that the risk that it won't is passed onto the buyer. Some brokers may prefer to concentrate on their traffic business - with a consistent income - rather than hopping between sponsors constantly to figure out what converts best.
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what the fuck? it can't possible, i trust Choker:D
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Ever considered that some people are better at building traffic? Why do the TGP traffic building companies work on building up clients TGPs rather than creating their own?

Selling traffic doesn't mean that it will not convert, just that the risk that it won't is passed onto the buyer. Some brokers may prefer to concentrate on their traffic business - with a consistent income - rather than hopping between sponsors constantly to figure out what converts best.
Bingo!

Some guys are better at converting traffic, some are better at building it. In the past year I have moved from using all the add space for myself to selling around 50% of it in prepaid deals. Does it mean my traffic is shit? no, else i wouldn't get advertisers renewing those ad spaces for almost a year already. It must mean they are making back more than what they invest, and for me it's nice secure money that i get prepaid and not having to deal with conversions etc.

It's like saying that why do people design websites for other guys instead of for themselves, or why don¡'t all content producers create their own paysites instead of selling content, or why there are (legit) SEO or SEM companies or just advertising companies in general. In this biz you need to specialize on something, you can't do it all and do it all perfectly.

Of course there are rotten apples in every sector of the biz, but it doesn't mean all them are, and Choker wouldn't still be in the biz after all those years if he was one of those (you know how many brokering companies have gone down and how many will go in the future).
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bad experience to them....
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ban for people who review few years old threads without any real input or significant reason! ("what the fuck? it can't possible, i trust Choker" is neither!)
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:12 AM   #126
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lot of traffic on chokers is from botnets
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Guys, you have to learn one thing however. No one will sell a really good traffic because he would like to convert it for himself. Just think about it.
apparently google and thousands of publishers on ad networks do.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:17 AM   #129
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ban for people who review few years old threads without any real input or significant reason! ("what the fuck? it can't possible, i trust Choker" is neither!)
I think it's pretty clear the reason is to make Choker look bad... this thread should never have been bumped. Let's move along to better things.
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Really? Proof or ban.
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ban for people who review few years old threads without any real input or significant reason! ("what the fuck? it can't possible, i trust Choker" is neither!)
I agree. No reason to bring this thread back to life.
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I sell and buy from Choker for years (yes I know this is an old thread). Buying traffic for sales was never good even back then. You wanna build traffic to get traffic. Sales are bonus, but they do happen. Choker is the best and cheapest feeder traffic out there.
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pussyserver, pussylover, who cares? Pussy is pussy.
Using anything close to my username in the same post as pussyserver is not appreciated. Kindly refrain.
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I see it took me four years to get around to that post...
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what the fuck? it can't possible, i trust Choker:D
Let me guess a fake nick? Are you someone I banned for cheating? Bumping a 4 year old bullshit thread shows a lot of class. Your probably the same whiney ass bitch that google bitchslapped the fuck out of. lol
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this needs a ban hammer, what an ass
Looks like the original poster of this thread is banned. 4 years later I'm still here, still selling traffic, still honest. Occasionaly someone tries to cheat me, I ban them from my system and thier recourse is to make bullshit posts like this in a attempt to seek revenge. I've banned a few guys the last few days so I suspect the bumper is one of them.
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Let me guess a fake nick? Are you someone I banned for cheating? Bumping a 4 year old bullshit thread shows a lot of class. Your probably the same whiney ass bitch that google bitchslapped the fuck out of. lol
You could have just mentioned my name. I guess you missed my post a bit up?
Last thing i think is you sending bottraffic. And even if you do, i dont care. I may fuck with you for fun, but i wouldnt trash your biz with bullshit about fake traffic.

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sorry haven't see how old this threat create , i looking for feeders search and see it ? just want feedback choker is good guy , i'm did something wrong ?
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You could have just mentioned my name. I guess you missed my post a bit up?
Last thing i think is you sending bottraffic. And even if you do, i dont care. I may fuck with you for fun, but i wouldnt trash your biz with bullshit about fake traffic.
How do you know I was talking about you? Are you a whiney ass bitch that got bitch slapped to hell by google?

And bullshit, you constantly try to put me and my business down, any cheapshot you can get in you take, I'm very aware of your efforst to try to get me to say something about you that will get me banned. Sorry shithead, it's not gonna happen.

If you feel that I'm the reason you got google bitchslapped, well your wrong. I still remember your threats on ICQ to have all my domains google banned. You sir are a shithead and a true scumbag and pretty much everyone in this biz knows it.

Your great claim to fame is that you fooled google for a couple months. Someone who uses a program to spam thier site and get good serps is lower than a criminal. A criminal at least has the guts to commit his crime in a manner that he might get caught and suffer the concequences. Anyone who has to cheat, steal or lie in order to make a dollar deserves no respect from anyone.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:53 PM   #145
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why can't choker filter out the hitbot ip's using htaccess. There is a list of hitbot ip's all over the web, even from other countries. I would just filter them out so they can't be used at all.
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why can't choker filter out the hitbot ip's using htaccess. There is a list of hitbot ip's all over the web, even from other countries. I would just filter them out so they can't be used at all.
That would have worked 10 years ago... cheaters are a bit more sophisticated these days. Heuristic analysis is probably a better method, but it's difficult when you're passing through a hit (as quickly as possible) from a seller to a buyer.
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Old 10-02-2010, 06:49 AM   #150
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A 4 year old thread...

Keeping threads in archive is a good thing. Not closing them to new comments after awhile seems a bit odd.

This thread is a good example of what I am talking about..

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