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Old 08-09-2006, 05:28 PM   #101
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:55 PM   #102
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:59 PM   #103
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL

were you expecting a sale you fucking moron, if that would profit you could just buy a crapload of traffic and send it to shit like that

you must be fucking retarded.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:26 PM   #104
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Spent: $25 on "niche gallery traffic" from Choker
Received: 25000 hits to hosted topbucks gallery
Received: 963 hits to topbucks paysite.
Received: 0 FUCKING SALES.
Received: 0:963 conversion.
First of all if any sold traffic was worth 2 cents than it wouldnt be for sale..
Second how can you possibally do a test with only $25.00 bucks? LOL did you expect to make that back 5 times over?? If it was that easy then go read my point #1.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:31 PM   #105
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This is some sort of joke rigth?
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:51 PM   #106
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:24 AM   #107
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well most of you arent hotshit anyway. in fact 99%.
Wow, a noob with insight. You'll make it far. In fact, right below hotshit, just like 99% of the ones here.
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:56 AM   #108
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:57 AM   #109
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Topbucks has some cool converting ratios :D
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:59 AM   #110
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buy a good submit pass next time, conversions like that are normal, welcome to the biz :P
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:42 AM   #111
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Well I appreciate all the people who posted their opinions. As you can see there's no agreement either. Some say... choker traffic is crap which is to be used for trading (fucking over others), some say i gotta test more to get a bigger sample size, some say topbucks gallery sucks. Pretty much every person said something different.
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:45 AM   #112
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The sense I'm getting from this is that choker traffic is not for sales. Basically, it's only to be used to fuck over other webmasters a.k.a traffic trading. It also can be used to get some traffic to a new site... and hopefully get some bookmarkers - ahhhhhhhhhhhh! noone mentioned that but i came up with that on my own eh? now i must be a fucking genius ah?
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:48 AM   #113
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The sense I'm getting from this is that choker traffic is not for sales. Basically, it's only to be used to fuck over other webmasters a.k.a traffic trading. It also can be used to get some traffic to a new site... and hopefully get some bookmarkers - ahhhhhhhhhhhh! noone mentioned that but i came up with that on my own eh? now i must be a fucking genius ah?
small steps lead to enlightenment.
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:44 AM   #114
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:18 AM   #115
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Use this formula: excellent design + optimized thumbnails + solid hosting + exclusive content + a sponsor YOU can trust + decent marketing skills and *probably* you will make sales.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:02 AM   #116
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Use this formula: excellent design + optimized thumbnails + solid hosting + exclusive content + a sponsor YOU can trust + decent marketing skills and *probably* you will make sales.
With choker traffic?
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:06 AM   #117
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Yep. But not as much as you with Choker traffic apparently.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:17 AM   #118
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Yep. But not as much as you with Choker traffic apparently.
Topbucks galleries and choker traffic. I think you must mean not as much as topbucks with choker traffic.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:26 AM   #119
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Topbucks galleries and choker traffic. I think you must mean not as much as topbucks with choker traffic.
Why would i have to specify the Topbucks part? I don't mind people correcting my spelling or grammar mistakes, but when people attempt to correct what they think i was trying to say...

Unless of course you live in my mind?
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:49 AM   #120
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Why would i have to specify the Topbucks part? I don't mind people correcting my spelling or grammar mistakes, but when people attempt to correct what they think i was trying to say...

Unless of course you live in my mind?

The guy does not own topbucks. He put choker traffic, with topbucks galleries, it didn't convert, so he screwed up? What were you trying to say, so I won't misunderstand.

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Old 08-11-2006, 07:51 AM   #121
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The guy does not own topbucks. He put choker traffic, with topbucks galleries, it didn't convert, so he screwed up? What were you trying to say, so I won't misunderstand.
Sigh.. it was a joke, based on the fact that eurabia was blaming Choker's traffic for not converting into sales.

It's called irony...
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Sigh.. it was a joke, based on the fact that eurabia was blaming Choker's traffic for not converting into sales.

It's called irony...
Maybe he was blaming topbucks too. Who is at fault here?

Choker's traffic isn't for converting into sales?
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Maybe he was blaming topbucks too. Who is at fault here?

Choker's traffic isn't for converting into sales?
Fuck me! Go back and read the thread.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:57 AM   #124
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Fuck me! Go back and read the thread.

I agree, that he shouldn't be mad at Choker.

I wish he had approached this topic differently. But, he sent some hits to a site that didn't convert. Does that mean the traffic is shit? Does that mean his gallery was f'd? Is he an asshole for trying to get choker traffic to convert into sales, or is he an asshole for complaining when it didn't?
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I agree, that he shouldn't be mad at Choker.

I wish he had approached this topic differently. But, he sent some hits to a site that didn't convert. Does that mean the traffic is shit? Does that mean his gallery was f'd? Is he an asshole for trying to get choker traffic to convert into sales, or is he an asshole for complaining when it didn't?
I don't know if you have me confused, but i'm not calling him an asshole for not being able to convert the traffic, i'm calling him an asshole for his overly-aggressive attitude when he asked the question, and the part of his attitude which assumes the world owes him something.

The problem is, apart from eurabia here being an asshat and now randomly insulting people who have tried to help, that eurabia expected to make a sale of $30+ with an investment on traffic of $35 - if that were possible, surely Choker would just do that with his traffic instead of selling it on? Which is the point we have been trying to get across.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:07 AM   #126
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I don't know if you have me confused, but i'm not calling him an asshole for not being able to convert the traffic, i'm calling him an asshole for his overly-aggressive attitude when he asked the question, and the part of his attitude which assumes the world owes him something.

The problem is, apart from eurabia here being an asshat and now randomly insulting people who have tried to help, that eurabia expected to make a sale of $30+ with an investment on traffic of $35 - if that were possible, surely Choker would just do that with his traffic instead of selling it on? Which is the point we have been trying to get across.
So the traffic is not worth what he paid, if you are using it for conversions. Otherwise, choker would never sell it.

What is the best use of the traffic. I am being nice, and I don't think anyone is an asshat.

Yes, I think he should have used honey instead of vinegar.
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The question of how to use choker traffic, if not for conversions is a real threadkiller. ;) Maybe a trade secret nobody wants to share?
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well... something must suck... no? either the chokertraffic or the topbucks paysite, no?

1) Don't use FHG. Why not? How are they worse than my own gallery where im paying another $25 for hosting?

2) Oversaturated sponsor... OK.. there's prolly some truth to that.

3) Send more, send more! Uhuh, nice advice. You want me to spend $2,500 and make two sales? How is the conversion gonna get better if i simply spend more?
LOL you just dont get it dude. Too many variables for one $25 test to tell you anything. Thats not even the value of one sale! Try spending 2 sales worth and maybe you'll get 1-3 sales. Or maybe try a better gallery and better paysite. This test shows that YOU cant profit off this traffic.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:26 PM   #129
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:56 PM   #130
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Well still people are buying traffic from Choker. So my guess is that they treat it as shit traffic and "trade" it to other webmasters for better traffic. How moral is the whole traffic trading business? Isn't the whole premise to fuck over the other guy with shit(ttier) traffic?
You don't seem to get it.

buy $1000 of chocker traffic, feed it to your galleries daily and see what happens then. $25 is too small of a test. I know plenty of people who like chockers traffic.

Stop acting like the dumbest peice of shit on earth. And if you don't get why your logic is one, go back to early high school wehre they teach you the law of average you stupid fuck.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:58 PM   #131
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Well I appreciate all the people who posted their opinions. As you can see there's no agreement either. Some say... choker traffic is crap which is to be used for trading (fucking over others), some say i gotta test more to get a bigger sample size, some say topbucks gallery sucks. Pretty much every person said something different.
You're a fucking tard. Everybody in this business does soemthign different. If it would be so easy like you said, we'd all pick FHGs and buy chocker traffic and wait for the ROI to kick in and buy some more.
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