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JD · 08-09-2006, 09:50 AM

KNOWING that you just got shaved and KNOWING there's nothing you can do about it.

Total shit.

Saw the sales with my own 2 eyes, logged in 20 mins later and the sales we're gone. Of couse it's just a "glitch" assholes...

Ice · 08-09-2006, 09:51 AM

What program?

gangbangjoe · 08-09-2006, 09:51 AM

we need sponsors name now

The Ghost · 08-09-2006, 09:52 AM

Oh man ......that sucks. If you could, hit me on IcQ with who it was.... completely confidential of course.

JD · 08-09-2006, 09:52 AM

I'm not going to name names, since I can't PROVE it 100%. All I'll say is that's it's a VERY big program

I didn't think to take a damn screen shot of the stats

Ice · 08-09-2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

I'm not going to name names, since I can't PROVE it 100%. All I'll say is that's it's a VERY big program

I didn't think to take a damn screen shot of the stats

This thread is pointless then. You won't name names, can't prove it, and have no screen caps.

Why start the thread then?

Phoenix · 08-09-2006, 09:56 AM

ask them what happened then...on the board..you ay accusing anyone of anything that way......hey i was wondering if you could explain this....

JD · 08-09-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ice

This thread is pointless then. You won't name names, can't prove it, and have no screen caps.

Why start the thread then?

it's called a rant/venting/blowing off steam/whatever

Tom_PM · 08-09-2006, 10:11 AM

I would want to know about it if it were my program.
If you pull data from a dying/recently dead stats server it could show an old number (looks like sale disappeared), only to come back later when you connect with a good server. I'd want to know if I have a box getting ready to kick the bucket.

I'd just approach it that way and assume it *is* something screwed up in the hardware or whatever and report it.

If it was PR or AE, definitely let me know and we'll get it looked at ASAP.

FetishWeb · 08-09-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

KNOWING that you just got shaved and KNOWING there's nothing you can do about it.

Total shit.

Saw the sales with my own 2 eyes, logged in 20 mins later and the sales we're gone. Of couse it's just a "glitch" assholes...

Better question: Why WOULDN'T a program with "in house" stats shave your earnings?

I can't think of any reasons.

Dagwolf · 08-09-2006, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If it was PR or AE, definitely let me know and we'll get it looked at ASAP.

ummm yeah

This doesn't inspire confidence in your program, Tom, although I'm sure that was your intention.

Juilan · 08-09-2006, 10:36 AM

it is frustrating no doubt

JD · 08-09-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I would want to know about it if it were my program.
If you pull data from a dying/recently dead stats server it could show an old number (looks like sale disappeared), only to come back later when you connect with a good server. I'd want to know if I have a box getting ready to kick the bucket.

I'd just approach it that way and assume it *is* something screwed up in the hardware or whatever and report it.

If it was PR or AE, definitely let me know and we'll get it looked at ASAP.

I hear ya, but the thing about this program is that shit like this is nothing new. Happens a lot (not just to me) but nothing gets done.

Dagwolf · 08-09-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

I hear ya, but the thing about this program is that shit like this is nothing new. Happens a lot (not just to me) but nothing gets done.

Why haven't you switched sponsors?

JD · 08-09-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Why haven't you switched sponsors?

I don't send them much traffic < 100 clicks/day . mostly from old links that I'm too lazy to hunt down and change.

Barefootsies · 08-09-2006, 12:36 PM

Tom_PM · 08-09-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

ummm yeah

This doesn't inspire confidence in your program, Tom, although I'm sure that was your intention.

Seriously? The thread starter doesnt feel he can tell the program in question, because he says it's common and nothing ever gets done. That doesnt inspire confidence, lol.

I'm simply saying we would absolutely want to know of ANY and ALL stats anomolies IF one ever pops up.

That should be reassuring, and I think it probably is. Approachable sponsor, non-approachable sponsor.. easy choice

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 12:38 PM

Don't label it a shave then. Do not label it anything just say what ya saw and what program. Unless of course you agree with what happened to you and agree with it happening to other webmasters...

In essence you are essentially caring enough to say somthing, and agree with the descrepancy to some degree.
So really...

You just want to draw some attention that serves no other interest.

Thus...

Just more meaningless noise.

Rednax · 08-09-2006, 12:42 PM

I had the exact same thing happen with a very large program myself, about 30 minutes ago.

Sale from yesterday showed up, then 5 mins later disappeared. Gonna give it a few hours, if its not back I'm emailing support.

Dirty Dane · 08-09-2006, 12:45 PM

Of course you can do something about it.

Talk with some others u know, that promote same sponsor, and tell them to log any suspicious. Then come back and post it.

JD · 08-09-2006, 01:23 PM

sweet! now all of my sales are gone! This ROCKS!

Cyber Fucker · 08-09-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

KNOWING that you just got shaved and KNOWING there's nothing you can do about it.

Total shit.

Saw the sales with my own 2 eyes, logged in 20 mins later and the sales we're gone. Of couse it's just a "glitch" assholes...

Totally agree with you bro

Fucksakes · 08-09-2006, 01:44 PM

happened to me a few times, but you know what in the end its about what sponsor sends you the most money in the end.

Im not going to go work for someone else that doesnt rip me off and I make fuck all with.

pocketkangaroo · 08-09-2006, 01:47 PM

I never understood the "it's a glitch" response. I've been around affiliate programs, had custom ones built for sites I own, used generic out of the box programs, and have never had a glitch that would take away sales or display sales that weren't there.

JD · 08-09-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I never understood the "it's a glitch" response. I've been around affiliate programs, had custom ones built for sites I own, used generic out of the box programs, and have never had a glitch that would take away sales or display sales that weren't there.

yeah. the "glitch" response is bullshit.

oh, btw, 1 sale re-appeared....

Cyber Fucker · 08-09-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

oh, btw, 1 sale re-appeared....

a miracle?...

Worldnet · 08-09-2006, 02:02 PM

One day someone will file charges againest a program and win, and things will change. In my state the charge is theft by deception, and it would stick with some proof.

JD · 08-09-2006, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster

a miracle?...

yeah no shit. but check this out:

the sale vanished again. Then popped up a few days earlier then vanished then came back again

fuck me...

Worldnet · 08-09-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah no shit. but check this out:

the sale vanished again. Then popped up a few days earlier then vanished then came back again

fuck me...

I know who you are refering to I bet. There standard answer when confronted, is to send a screen shot of the stats that disappeared. Next to impossible when the stats have already been changed.

JD · 08-09-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldnet

I know who you are refering to I bet. There standard answer when confronted, is to send a screen shot of the stats that disappeared. Next to impossible when the stats have already been changed.

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

OG LennyT · 08-09-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

ask yourself 'What would Jimthefiend do?'

do the opposite and you are alright

JD · 08-09-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd316

ask yourself 'What would Jimthefiend do?'

do the opposite and you are alright

scotty2hotty1111 · 08-09-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

nico-t · 08-09-2006, 02:18 PM

name the program, by doing that you are helping out all of their affiliates and get an on board response from them all the affiliates can see

JD · 08-09-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

name the program, by doing that you are helping out all of their affiliates and get an on board response from them all the affiliates can see

msg me and I will. Since I don't have hard evidence of shaving I could get banned if I name names on the board

Rinaldo · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Sometimes a chargeback will come through and it'll remove the sale. Not sure what happened with your case. I'd ask the program you're having trouble with. Since they're the only ones that will be able to help you out.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

Totally true.
Reality no one gives a shit anyways. May as well just chalk it up and get another sponsor. There are plenty around and few that wont play games with you.

It's your job to find them.
Why help competing webmaster's in the first place, especially when none of them really give a shit anyways

Even singling out who done it would be irrelevant as it would make you a target for NIC's and "It's a great Program" supporters...

We seen how it goes a million times.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

Totally true.
Reality no one gives a shit anyways. May as well just chalk it up and get another sponsor. There are plenty around and few that wont play games with you.

It's your job to find them.
Why help competing webmaster's in the first place, especially when none of them really give a shit anyways

Even singling out who done it would be irrelevant as it would make you a target for NIC's and "It's a great Program" supporters...

We seen how it goes a million times.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

Totally true.
Reality no one gives a shit anyways. May as well just chalk it up and get another sponsor. There are plenty around and few that wont play games with you.

It's your job to find them.
Why help competing webmaster's in the first place, especially when none of them really give a shit anyways

Even singling out who done it would be irrelevant as it would make you a target for NIC's and "It's a great Program" supporters...

We seen how it goes a million times.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

yeah that's why I'm not going to say the name on the boards as I'll end up being called a troll/hater/liar/dramawhore/etcetcetcetc

Totally true.
Reality no one gives a shit anyways. May as well just chalk it up and get another sponsor. There are plenty around and few that wont play games with you.

It's your job to find them.
Why help competing webmaster's in the first place, especially when none of them really give a shit anyways

Even singling out who done it would be irrelevant as it would make you a target for NIC's and "It's a great Program" supporters...

We seen how it goes a million times.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 02:30 PM

Fuckin GFY lag sucks lately...

JD · 08-09-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Fuckin GFY lag sucks lately...

lol just thought you were really trying to get your point across

JD · 08-09-2006, 03:59 PM

hmmm....I've got a screen cap now....should I post it? Probably be flamed all to hell for it...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 04:41 PM

I vote no.

Cuz no one will give a shit and you will get flamed one way or the other.

Sad world, but thats what will happen.

You will have the few people say, "Whats 25 bucks? You must be broke I make 100 of sales a day withh "insertcashprogram".

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

Other people will say "Nice photo chop!"

JD · 08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I vote no.

Cuz no one will give a shit and you will get flamed one way or the other.

Sad world, but thats what will happen.

yeah

sad indeed.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

Then some will say, "I been making money with "Insertprogram" for years and they have never ripped me off!"

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 04:44 PM

Then someone totally unrelated will come in and create some drama about it to plug there program. Any Keyboard warrior junky can apply themselves to that.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-09-2006, 04:47 PM

Then of course the 20 or so See sig posts.

KrisKross · 08-09-2006, 04:47 PM

Post the screenshot and contact the program.

08-09-2006, 09:50 AM	#1
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	The most fucked up thing about this industry is... KNOWING that you just got shaved and KNOWING there's nothing you can do about it. Total shit. Saw the sales with my own 2 eyes, logged in 20 mins later and the sales we're gone. Of couse it's just a "glitch" assholes...

08-09-2006, 09:51 AM	#2
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08-09-2006, 09:51 AM	#3
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08-09-2006, 09:52 AM	#4
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08-09-2006, 09:56 AM	#7
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08-09-2006, 10:11 AM	#9
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I would want to know about it if it were my program. If you pull data from a dying/recently dead stats server it could show an old number (looks like sale disappeared), only to come back later when you connect with a good server. I'd want to know if I have a box getting ready to kick the bucket. I'd just approach it that way and assume it is something screwed up in the hardware or whatever and report it. If it was PR or AE, definitely let me know and we'll get it looked at ASAP. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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08-09-2006, 12:36 PM	#16
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08-09-2006, 12:38 PM	#18
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Don't label it a shave then. Do not label it anything just say what ya saw and what program. Unless of course you agree with what happened to you and agree with it happening to other webmasters... In essence you are essentially caring enough to say somthing, and agree with the descrepancy to some degree. So really... You just want to draw some attention that serves no other interest. Thus... Just more meaningless noise. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 08-09-2006 at 12:40 PM..

08-09-2006, 12:42 PM	#19
Rednax Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 162	I had the exact same thing happen with a very large program myself, about 30 minutes ago. Sale from yesterday showed up, then 5 mins later disappeared. Gonna give it a few hours, if its not back I'm emailing support.

08-09-2006, 12:45 PM	#20
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Of course you can do something about it. Talk with some others u know, that promote same sponsor, and tell them to log any suspicious. Then come back and post it.

08-09-2006, 01:23 PM	#21
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	sweet! now all of my sales are gone! This ROCKS!

08-09-2006, 01:44 PM	#23
Fucksakes Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,567	happened to me a few times, but you know what in the end its about what sponsor sends you the most money in the end. Im not going to go work for someone else that doesnt rip me off and I make fuck all with.

08-09-2006, 01:47 PM	#24
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I never understood the "it's a glitch" response. I've been around affiliate programs, had custom ones built for sites I own, used generic out of the box programs, and have never had a glitch that would take away sales or display sales that weren't there.

08-09-2006, 02:02 PM	#27
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	One day someone will file charges againest a program and win, and things will change. In my state the charge is theft by deception, and it would stick with some proof.

08-09-2006, 02:18 PM	#34
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	name the program, by doing that you are helping out all of their affiliates and get an on board response from them all the affiliates can see

08-09-2006, 02:23 PM	#36
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	Sometimes a chargeback will come through and it'll remove the sale. Not sure what happened with your case. I'd ask the program you're having trouble with. Since they're the only ones that will be able to help you out.

08-09-2006, 02:30 PM	#41
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Fuckin GFY lag sucks lately... __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

08-09-2006, 03:59 PM	#43
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	hmmm....I've got a screen cap now....should I post it? Probably be flamed all to hell for it...

08-09-2006, 04:41 PM	#44
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I vote no. Cuz no one will give a shit and you will get flamed one way or the other. Sad world, but thats what will happen. You will have the few people say, "Whats 25 bucks? You must be broke I make 100 of sales a day withh "insertcashprogram". __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 08-09-2006 at 04:42 PM..

08-09-2006, 04:43 PM	#45
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Other people will say "Nice photo chop!" __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

08-09-2006, 04:44 PM	#48
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Then someone totally unrelated will come in and create some drama about it to plug there program. Any Keyboard warrior junky can apply themselves to that. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

08-09-2006, 04:47 PM	#49
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Then of course the 20 or so See sig posts. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

08-09-2006, 04:47 PM	#50
KrisKross Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5,024	Post the screenshot and contact the program. __________________