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Old 08-08-2006, 06:27 PM   #1
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Which Thieving Cunt has AFF id p156794

Fucking theiving piece of shit, cheating fucking cocksucking whore..
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:41 PM   #11
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I am at the point where I find more people stealing & copying my shit & taking from me, I'm gonna start sending people to their doors & fucking smashing their fucking kneecaps.. I had it with fucking cheating, thieving cocksuckers.. Fucking first one, I'll pay even double to make sure it's videotaped so I can broadcast it to make an example of the fucker!!


I am fucking done playing nice guy!!!

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:42 PM   #12
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Sagi and AFF Reps already aware of this person at least since Feb.
http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/...9&postcount=73
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:47 PM   #15
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thieving piece of shit found #1 google rankings of unique keywords specific to my site, copied my shit, made 80 copies of it on 80 subdomains, got them indexed to redirect to that shit program AFF & now has the first 80 listings in google for MY FUCKING DOMAIN NAME!!!!
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and as you know, aff won't do shit about it besides pay the guy
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thieving piece of shit found #1 google rankings of unique keywords specific to my site, copied my shit, made 80 copies of it on 80 subdomains, got them indexed to redirect to that shit program AFF & now has the first 80 listings in google for MY FUCKING DOMAIN NAME!!!!
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"Whatyou talkin' 'bout Willis" would also work well here.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:23 AM   #27
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Fucking theiving piece of shit, cheating fucking cocksucking whore..
That's my AFF code you shit-talking fairy! Are you pissed because you don't have the skillz to get the job done or are you pissed because your Mommy did not hug you enough?

As far as calling me out and having someone come to my house and ...blah, blah, blah... Have some balls and be a fucking man for once. Come by and do it yourself. You will soon see that I am not afraid of your threats. I have the shit to back my own ass. I don't have to "send people". I bring it myself.

So go fuck yourself.....















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That shit sucks. Post domains so we can hunt them down. Most likely Russian. I had it happen with one of my sites a while back.
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You really need to back off. We have ways for people to complain: [email protected]

I haven't seen any evidence nor complaints come through. But I did ask the affiliate in question if he knew what this could be about and it seems he has posted offering spacedog a way to contact him. So now spacedog can directly talk to the affiliate or contact us with a complaint. That is how this issue can be resolved dispite the trendiness of bashing AFF.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:24 PM   #29
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:43 PM   #31
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You really need to back off. We have ways for people to complain: [email protected]

I haven't seen any evidence nor complaints come through. But I did ask the affiliate in question if he knew what this could be about and it seems he has posted offering spacedog a way to contact him. So now spacedog can directly talk to the affiliate or contact us with a complaint. That is how this issue can be resolved dispite the trendiness of bashing AFF.
In all honesty Sagi, bashing AFF would not be so "trendy" if you guys took a little more proactive approach to cleaning up your trash.

I know that your program is huge and it would be nearly impossible to keep constant check, but the occasional "Here is a list of scammers that we canned" post would go a great long way toward gaining some harmony among the ranks here.

What you guys have to understand is that small and medium sized operators have a much larger comparative investment of time and resources in their respective programs than does AFF. When we see people ripping content and then partnering with AFF to profit from the work of others is makes people mad. Then you temper that with the sometime flippant attitude of AFF and you get a crucible of emotions. Your statement is a perfect example. You took the time to contact the affiliate and instructed him to get in touch with SpaceDog when what you should have done was simply check the content of both sites and then ban the affiliate if there were evidence of plagiarism. It is not Sagi's place or anyone else?s place to police AFF.

I hate to polarize the issue, but when it comes down to brass tacks AFF is either WITH the community or AGAINST the community. You guys have far more resources and power than most other programs. With greater power comes greater responsibility. Personally I would like to read a thread about how AFF did something WITHOUT there having to be a huge drama-fest first.
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In all honesty Sagi, bashing AFF would not be so "trendy" if you guys took a little more proactive approach to cleaning up your trash.

I know that your program is huge and it would be nearly impossible to keep constant check, but the occasional "Here is a list of scammers that we canned" post would go a great long way toward gaining some harmony among the ranks here.

What you guys have to understand is that small and medium sized operators have a much larger comparative investment of time and resources in their respective programs than does AFF. When we see people ripping content and then partnering with AFF to profit from the work of others is makes people mad. Then you temper that with the sometime flippant attitude of AFF and you get a crucible of emotions. Your statement is a perfect example. You took the time to contact the affiliate and instructed him to get in touch with SpaceDog when what you should have done was simply check the content of both sites and then ban the affiliate if there were evidence of plagiarism. It is not Sagi's place or anyone else?s place to police AFF.

I hate to polarize the issue, but when it comes down to brass tacks AFF is either WITH the community or AGAINST the community. You guys have far more resources and power than most other programs. With greater power comes greater responsibility. Personally I would like to read a thread about how AFF did something WITHOUT there having to be a huge drama-fest first.

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But I did ask the affiliate in question if he knew what this could be about and it seems he has posted offering spacedog a way to contact him. So now spacedog can directly talk to the affiliate or contact us with a complaint. That is how this issue can be resolved dispite the trendiness of bashing AFF.

Gee Sagi ... when the THIEF tells Spacedog to fuck-off or just does not respond (and it will be one of the two)

THEN WHAT?
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...what you should have done was simply check the content of both sites and then ban the affiliate if there were evidence of plagiarism. It is not Sagi's place or anyone else?s place to police AFF.
I don't know what site or ID Spacedog uses to promote us. The other affiliate has lots of sites and pages. It's just as easy to send an e-mail to us with links to both sites so we can look at it. I'm really not sure that Spacedog is asking us to do anything here. If so I would assume he would have contacted me directly or e-mailed our support before making the thread.
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Gee Sagi ... when the THIEF tells Spacedog to fuck-off or just does not respond (and it will be one of the two)

THEN WHAT?
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So now spacedog can directly talk to the affiliate or contact us with a complaint.
There is no more I can add to this.
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...what you should have done was simply check the content of both sites and then ban the affiliate if there were evidence of plagiarism. It is not Sagi's place or anyone else?s place to police AFF.


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I don't know what site or ID Spacedog uses to promote us. The other affiliate has lots of sites and pages. It's just as easy to send an e-mail to us with links to both sites so we can look at it. I'm really not sure that Spacedog is asking us to do anything here. If so I would assume he would have contacted me directly or e-mailed our support before making the thread.
You completely side-stepped the point of my post.

When is AFF going to take a proactive stance instead of quoting knee-jerk policy?
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...what you should have done was simply check the content of both sites and then ban the affiliate if there were evidence of plagiarism. It is not Sagi's place or anyone else?s place to police AFF.




You completely side-stepped the point of my post.

When is AFF going to take a proactive stance instead of quoting knee-jerk policy?
I'm sorry but we have too many affiliates to check if they are stealing text from other affiliates. Spacedog might not even be an affiliate so do I have to check all my affiliates' sites vs every other page on the Internet? It's simply not realistic.
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I'm sorry but we have too many affiliates to check if they are stealing text from other affiliates. Spacedog might not even be an affiliate so do I have to check all my affiliates' sites vs every other page on the Internet? It's simply not realistic.
A little token action would be much better than what you (and the rest of the AFF pace) are doing in each of these threads.

Everyone with even basic intellect knows that it would be impossible to check every affiliate against every other affiliate on a quest for perfection and I don?t think that anyone has asked for that. However, you have to be profoundly delayed to harbor the idea that the community does not see where AFF's loyalties lie.

I entered into this topic with an objective perspective. I am not an AFF affiliate and I am not an AFF hater. Each message that I read from the AFF camp however, drives me closer to the popular opinion that AFF's concern extends only as far as the profit will allow.

I do not know if SpaceDog is an AFF affiliate and I have not seen the site(s) in question. What I do know is that if AFF stepped up and took some proactive (read: SUPPORTIVE) action that demonstrated some compassion for what the smaller programs owners go through it would be a huge public relations gesture. Standing feet-in-the-mud and refusing to move until pushed is not winning friends and attracting new affiliates.

I can see that what AFF does is ethically wrong. The larger webmaster community can see that it is deleterious to everyone's efforts and AFF knows on some level that their policy is wrong. What would it take to get AFF to take just one independent step toward eliminating a fraction of the scammers and thieves that profit from stolen work through the AFF program?

Let me make this suggestion, for an observation of a problem without a suggestion for change is simply bitching; Pledge 10 man-hours a week to proactively pursuing the content thieves and scammers and then post a list of those that were removed. I bet you a cool tasty beverage that such action will be met with accolades and praise.
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That's my AFF code you shit-talking fairy! Are you pissed because you don't have the skillz to get the job done or are you pissed because your Mommy did not hug you enough?

As far as calling me out and having someone come to my house and ...blah, blah, blah... Have some balls and be a fucking man for once. Come by and do it yourself. You will soon see that I am not afraid of your threats. I have the shit to back my own ass. I don't have to "send people". I bring it myself.

So go fuck yourself.....















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That shit sucks. Post domains so we can hunt them down. Most likely Russian. I had it happen with one of my sites a while back.

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I know it moraly wrong, but whats the legal issue here?

Is it a copyright violation?

I dont think anyone would can an afffiliate for whats basicly just good blackhat SEO
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thieving piece of shit found #1 google rankings of unique keywords specific to my site, copied my shit, made 80 copies of it on 80 subdomains, got them indexed to redirect to that shit program AFF & now has the first 80 listings in google for MY FUCKING DOMAIN NAME!!!!
So somebody out SEO'd you and that is AFF's responsibility how again? I hate to break it to you but Google makes the rules regarding rankings not AFF.

If you can't beat the guy for your own domain name keyword, you might wanna complain to Google not GFY or AFF. (Unless it's porn-sex-mesothelioma.com).

Regarding the other keywords "specific to your site" that you are whining about..uh I have some sites that I would like to be ranked higher for as well but too bad how sad so..er....suck it up soldier
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thieving piece of shit found #1 google rankings of unique keywords specific to my site, copied my shit, made 80 copies of it on 80 subdomains, got them indexed to redirect to that shit program AFF & now has the first 80 listings in google for MY FUCKING DOMAIN NAME!!!!
sounds like you suck at seo
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In all honesty Sagi, bashing AFF would not be so "trendy" if you guys took a little more proactive approach to cleaning up your trash.
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I didn't read spacedog being angry at AFF but angry at the affiliate.
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A little token action would be much better than what you (and the rest of the AFF pace) are doing in each of these threads.

Everyone with even basic intellect knows that it would be impossible to check every affiliate against every other affiliate on a quest for perfection and I don?t think that anyone has asked for that. However, you have to be profoundly delayed to harbor the idea that the community does not see where AFF's loyalties lie.

I entered into this topic with an objective perspective. I am not an AFF affiliate and I am not an AFF hater. Each message that I read from the AFF camp however, drives me closer to the popular opinion that AFF's concern extends only as far as the profit will allow.

I do not know if SpaceDog is an AFF affiliate and I have not seen the site(s) in question. What I do know is that if AFF stepped up and took some proactive (read: SUPPORTIVE) action that demonstrated some compassion for what the smaller programs owners go through it would be a huge public relations gesture. Standing feet-in-the-mud and refusing to move until pushed is not winning friends and attracting new affiliates.

I can see that what AFF does is ethically wrong. The larger webmaster community can see that it is deleterious to everyone's efforts and AFF knows on some level that their policy is wrong. What would it take to get AFF to take just one independent step toward eliminating a fraction of the scammers and thieves that profit from stolen work through the AFF program?

Let me make this suggestion, for an observation of a problem without a suggestion for change is simply bitching; Pledge 10 man-hours a week to proactively pursuing the content thieves and scammers and then post a list of those that were removed. I bet you a cool tasty beverage that such action will be met with accolades and praise.
Let's try something different. Tell me what you would do in my shoes? Keep in mind that I do know what the URLs in question are or have access to Google's spider.

In a perfect world I would be able to guess the URLs but if that was the case I'd probably be buying a lotto ticket right now instead.
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and btw when complaints are made through proper channels we do take care of it.

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That's my AFF code you shit-talking fairy! Are you pissed because you don't have the skillz to get the job done or are you pissed because your Mommy did not hug you enough?

As far as calling me out and having someone come to my house and ...blah, blah, blah... Have some balls and be a fucking man for once. Come by and do it yourself. You will soon see that I am not afraid of your threats. I have the shit to back my own ass. I don't have to "send people". I bring it myself.

So go fuck yourself.....















And futher more.....















I am just kidding. It is not my AFF ID. I just wanted to wind you up.

That shit sucks. Post domains so we can hunt them down. Most likely Russian. I had it happen with one of my sites a while back.

you had me!
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