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Old 08-09-2006, 01:18 PM   #1
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It costs $20K to skin GFY

worth it??
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:19 PM   #2
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:20 PM   #3
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I would pay $20 to get the old skin back.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:22 PM   #4
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worth it??
2 years ago - for sure

nowadays - no idea. Personally i don't even remember the last skin...

edit: actually I remember it - perfect gonzo, right?
but don't remember the previous one for sure
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:23 PM   #5
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If you only have a small affiliate base it is probably worth it
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:24 PM   #6
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$25k, get your facts straight
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:24 PM   #7
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My opinion?

Worth it for some, but not all.
If you have a very special program, word of mouth (word of sig) is always the best way.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:25 PM   #8
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$25k, get your facts straight
haha... that's the price you got andrej
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:33 PM   #9
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haha... that's the price you got andrej


And I agree with you, worth for some, not for all.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:34 PM   #10
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:35 PM   #11
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im not sure why fleshlight forked over this kinda cash. there name was branded with all the drama and all that jazz.

no need for this really.. but hey.. rock on

spend your money as you see fit
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:46 PM   #12
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I've contacted people after their skins to find the effectiveness of it. Some do it for different reasons:
1. To seem bigger than they are ... hey, if you can drop $25k on skinning, then don't you seem to be a big program?
2. Pure branding and it has worked and failed for some
3. New program launches --which to me, doesn't always seem to be the most effective. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:47 PM   #13
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...that's a nice skin btw!! :D
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:48 PM   #14
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I love this skin. Go Fleshlight Go.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:49 PM   #15
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It's good for branding existing program (big ones), and putting new ones on the map. Except that I don't see why medium programs would do it.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:50 PM   #16
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EthnicPass was just an FPA, not a skin
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:01 PM   #17
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$25k... holy shit, that's alot
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:02 PM   #18
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I don't see why medium programs would do it.
to become big
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:03 PM   #19
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fleshlight probably paid them 20K to do it though. I mean its a huge promotion. It says fleslight cash like 30 times in the background. lol
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:14 PM   #20
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In this biz $20k will make you $40k by herding and driving traffic.

The question then becomes does dropping $20k on a skin at least help you break even?

That's something that's hard to quantify.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:18 PM   #21
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:19 PM   #22
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for big programs is not a problem i guess! just for the show
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:20 PM   #23
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nice skin btw this last one
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:22 PM   #24
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Ir's strange that present skin header is all in gifs, no flash..
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:28 PM   #25
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Wasn't it silvercash that first skinned GFY?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:34 PM   #26
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The question then becomes does dropping $20k on a skin at least help you break even?
25k and have to think long term...if a program gets new affiliates who make him only $200 more each day(and that should be easy), thats $6k per month and the skin is paid off in 4 months...
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:40 PM   #27
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Fleshlight did the skin to kick off the redone affiliate program. To make sure everyone was aware it was redone, and make it clear the changes that were done. Plain and simple. People wanted them to make right on the problems they had, and they are doing their best to make it very very clear that they are the best upsell product out there.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:49 PM   #28
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$25K isn't much considering this site reaches tens upon tens of thousands of adult webmasters daily and gives you instant recognition.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:50 PM   #29
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to become big
so why won't you do it?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:58 PM   #30
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so why won't you do it?
I didn't say I won't. And NDC is small yet, so I could only get middle sized maybe(150-500k gross monthly).
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:00 PM   #31
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I love those fucking skins! Always nice to have some difference then always the same one.. i really like that one. Nice colors!
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:03 PM   #32
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I didn't say I won't. And NDC is small yet, so I could only get middle sized maybe(150-500k gross monthly).
I thought you're middle sized already

then again, it depends on the definition
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:05 PM   #33
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:10 PM   #34
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then again, it depends on the definition
A lot! I wish there would be some standards whats small, middle sized and big.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:13 PM   #35
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hotmomnextdoor.com 1184 ovt last month
and hot mom next door 10725, but not sure if thats good or not
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:18 PM   #36
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:21 PM   #37
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silver's cash random reality sites:

suckmebitch.com 1246
pimp4aday.com 2362
freshteens.com 1175

but the truly big programs like ND, TB or PG have many reality sites with faaar bigger scores
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:22 PM   #38
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btw fleshlight.com 918

but thats a product, not paysite
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:28 PM   #39
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hmmm
Yeah, I know ND, TB, BBO, etc have huge numbers...but those are also huge companies. Millions or tens of millions per month.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:32 PM   #40
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I dont' know, but if I paid $20k, I know for damn sure I'd want my big bold name to link to my site and not to the index.php of the site I am paying to be on.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:55 PM   #41
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The branding that is done is worth the price. When meeting new webmasters in person, a lot of them say "Oh ya... You guys skinned GFY a while back, right?". That alone helps to break the ice.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:57 PM   #42
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Put an XNations skin on it
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:10 PM   #44
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Worth it if you have the program!
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:18 PM   #45
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$20k is not that much these days.

People keep buying this kind of advertising so it must be working for them.
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:38 PM   #46
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:38 PM   #47
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:46 PM   #48
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As far as Branding goes ... skin will help launch your new product ..

As far as Fleshlight goes .. Fuckin aye .. Awesome job !!!!
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:49 PM   #49
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fuck I have friends that barely make that in a year
Figure out what it costs to skin GFY, then figure what a layered popup ad costs (it's around 10K), then figure what a monthly top banner spot ad campaign costs, then figure what the bottom banners go for...

You can quickly come up with a monthly number of what GFY brings in.
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:49 PM   #50
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