You Know Your Host/ISP is About to Implode When... - GoFuckYourself.com

minusonebit · 08-31-2006, 07:50 PM

... you normally deal with the two managing partners personally, and one of them AIMs you and tells you that effective immediately you need to mail your payments to his home address as the other partner no longer handles billing issues... then you call the other partner and he says to mail them to his home office, and not to listen to anything the other one says and furthermore he dosent want the other one handling money right now and then asks you to send an AIM log of the conversation you had with the first partner.

Fun times ahead... I see an implosion in the near future...

Ycaza · 08-31-2006, 08:01 PM

perhaps its time to hit me up then...... sorry to hear that story

free4porn · 08-31-2006, 08:03 PM

Change ISPs sounds dodgy!

Supz · 08-31-2006, 08:05 PM

Run like the wind!

baddog · 08-31-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom

Run like the wind!

very good advice

dissipate · 08-31-2006, 08:09 PM

Nope, doesn't sound good. Time to back everything up and jump ship from the looks of it.

Monique Niccole · 08-31-2006, 08:11 PM

Make the switch quickly.

You'd be better off sending the money to my house...lol

minusonebit · 08-31-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ycaza

perhaps its time to hit me up then...... sorry to hear that story

I have looked at your site a couple of times before... but your prices on dedicated are not at all competitive and the boxes low end IMHO. Your colo is another story... but I'd need more than 2 IPs and I need to know about bandwidth prices and payment methods.

squishypimp · 08-31-2006, 08:31 PM

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bknoob · 08-31-2006, 08:35 PM

sounds like business as usual

woj · 08-31-2006, 09:03 PM

which host is that?

Brad Mitchell · 08-31-2006, 10:13 PM

May the best host win... but... minusonebit, just how the heck can you say OC3s prices are uncompetitive? How much more do you want for sub-$100/mo unmanaged dedicated or sub-$200/mo managed dedicated hosting? lol

Cheers,

Brad

Sly · 08-31-2006, 10:26 PM

I'm with Brad, OC3 has some of the lower prices on the market.

Regardless, if they're arguing over where to send payment then they may not have a legal partnership to begin with, which isn't good. And if their partnership IS legal, its fair to suspect that it will dissolve very soon and they'll both lose everything they have. Partnerships don't break up, they disappear.

minusonebit · 08-31-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

May the best host win... but... minusonebit, just how the heck can you say OC3s prices are uncompetitive? How much more do you want for sub-$100/mo unmanaged dedicated or sub-$200/mo managed dedicated hosting? lol

Cheers,

Brad

More than 1TB of xfer per month would be nice... and more than 2 IPs is a must. God, if I only had two IPs I think I'd throw in the towel.

chaze · 09-02-2006, 11:16 AM

They where probably best friends at one point too.

Just another reason not to have a good friend as a partner.

Solid Bob · 09-02-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze

They where probably best friends at one point too.

Just another reason not to have a good friend as a partner.

It works out fine if neither you or your best friend is a greedy fucking moron.

milan · 09-02-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I have looked at your site a couple of times before... but your prices on dedicated are not at all competitive and the boxes low end IMHO. Your colo is another story... but I'd need more than 2 IPs and I need to know about bandwidth prices and payment methods.

the pricing on our site is for main stream... we have a totaly different pricing structure for the GFY/Adult community.

remember 85% of our business is still mainstream...

milan · 09-02-2006, 01:02 PM

Brad and Sly, I'm with you guys - not sure how low we can go as ISP's, we still need to make some money here or MAYBE he will start sending checks directly to my house... or maybe I call him and tell him to send it to your house

Some people just don't appriciate great reliable service

germ · 09-02-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Bob

It works out fine if neither you or your best friend is a greedy fucking moron.

i agree. ive worked exclusively with people i consider close friends for the last 5 years or so and we've never had a moments trouble.

we all want to make money together and we dont get greedy. thats the answer to everything.

minusonebit · 09-02-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milan

the pricing on our site is for main stream... we have a totaly different pricing structure for the GFY/Adult community.

remember 85% of our business is still mainstream...

IC. That would have been good info to have from the getgo, regarding your prices.

What is your GFY price structure?

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Moose · 09-02-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milan

the pricing on our site is for main stream... we have a totaly different pricing structure for the GFY/Adult community.

remember 85% of our business is still mainstream...

Hey that's real cool to do to your customers.
Do your "mainstream" customers know they are paying alot more than your "GFY/Adult community" ?

milan · 09-02-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose

Hey that's real cool to do to your customers.
Do your "mainstream" customers know they are paying alot more than your "GFY/Adult community" ?

It's not a LOT, we do a special discount to the adult/GFY community and yes they do since they demand much more. not that you guys don't

milan · 09-02-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

IC. That would have been good info to have from the getgo, regarding your prices.

What is your GFY price structure?

Hit me up I will work out a deal if you are intrested

shake · 09-02-2006, 08:35 PM

Don't forget it can sometimes still take up to 48 hours to get your DNS switched over - sounds like your host might not be around that long...

minusonebit · 09-02-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by milan

It's not a LOT, we do a special discount to the adult/GFY community and yes they do since they demand much more. not that you guys don't

Experinced webmasters (like those found in adult) DO cost a host less to service and thus should pay less. They dont ask stupid questions about thier crappy CGI scripts, they dont call in bantering that the OS is broke because of something they did to it, they dont call in insisting the server is offline when its really a problem with thier ISP. I really wish hosts would offer "supportless" plans because what ends up happening is those of us who know what we're doing get to pay for those that dont.

minusonebit · 09-02-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shake

Don't forget it can sometimes still take up to 48 hours to get your DNS switched over - sounds like your host might not be around that long...

This is true.

I do want to have a plan B, but I am not really THAT worried. I have watched this build of the last couple of years, its been quite commical actually. The partner that I trust more than the other says everything is fine, he is trying to get the other two partners to buy his share out and then he is gonna go start his own thing. (There is a third partner, a sneaky little Jew lawyer that I never deal with simply because I have those two).

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