Are text tgps pretty much dead? - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 10:08 AM

Aside from a few old skool text tgps (thehun/worldsex etc) are text TGPs dead?

Thumb TGPs are the norm now?

Discuss.

Snake Doctor · 09-10-2006, 10:13 AM

There are some text guys with some pretty sweet traffic. Not all of them are as old as you think.

Mike/Bike has a text network of TGP's that has alot of traffic, very good traffic too.

ffmihai · 09-10-2006, 10:13 AM

well there are very few NEW text tgp arround but i think they will come back!

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ffmihai

well there are very few NEW text tgp arround but i think they will come back!

Why do you think that?

If I was surfing for porn galleries, nothing could persuade me to browse text TGPs. Thumbs are so much cooler.

pussyluver · 09-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Text TGP dead?

theshemp
89.com
pussy.org
persiankitty
thehun
richardsrealm
worldsex
al4a
ampland
elephantlist
marks bookmarks

I could go on

Some have other sites or are moving/mixing in thumbs. Text TGPs represent a ton of traffic! Still plenty of modems out there.

HorseShit · 09-10-2006, 11:28 AM

pinkworld ^^^

Jarmusch · 09-10-2006, 11:31 AM

Yes text TGP's are dead... in China. 95% of the chinese population prefers Thumb TGP's.

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

theshemp
89.com
pussy.org
persiankitty
thehun
richardsrealm
worldsex
al4a
ampland
elephantlist
marks bookmarks

.

Yeah but try comparing it to the nuymber of thumb TGPs...

the Shemp · 09-10-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Yeah but try comparing it to the nuymber of thumb TGPs...

im still amazed sponsors allow their content to be used as "trade bait" on those thumb TGPs

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

im still amazed sponsors allow their content to be used as "trade bait" on those thumb TGPs

Can you please expand on that?

Roald · 09-10-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Can you please expand on that?

Think he means the skimming part

the Shemp · 09-10-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Can you please expand on that?

...isnt it obvious?...the thumbs are often being used as trade bait, to redirect the surfer to another TGP...not to the gallery...imo, that is an improper use of sponsors content..

spacedog · 09-10-2006, 12:07 PM

With the ammended 2257 requirements recently passed & the lack of sponsors willing to allow webmaster physical custody of docs, I went all text on my entire network. (some still have a few thumbs, but they're all non nude thumbs)..

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Think he means the skimming part

There is no way sponsors could regulate that.

Besides, they are getting free traffic, why would they care.

polish_aristocrat · 09-10-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

...isnt it obvious?...the thumbs are often being used as trade bait, to redirect the surfer to another TGP...not to the gallery...imo, that is an improper use of sponsors content..

who cares about that if the sales are good?

polish_aristocrat · 09-10-2006, 12:11 PM

if I was a surfer I'd masturbate to dansmovies.com daily

the Shemp · 09-10-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

There is no way sponsors could regulate that.

Besides, they are getting free traffic, why would they care.

you are assuming they are getting as much free traffic back as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...

the Shemp · 09-10-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

who cares about that if the sales are good?

you are assuming they are getting as many sales back, as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I masturbate to dansmovies.com daily

Fixed.

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

you are assuming they are getting as many sales back, as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...

They aren't losing any sales. FHGs are all about getting traffic.

Axeman · 09-10-2006, 12:16 PM

The only sponsor I knew who actively tried to prevent this was ATK. But it is a task virtually impossible to regulate. Possible sure, but very labor intensive.

GTS Mark · 09-10-2006, 12:17 PM

Text tgp's are some of the largest tgp's in the world.

I don't see them slowing down a bit?

DH

Johny Traffic · 09-10-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

im still amazed sponsors allow their content to be used as "trade bait" on those thumb TGPs

I know a couple that have not let thumb tgp's that skim. All it meant at the end of the day was less affiliates though.

Affiliates wont change their sites to fit sponsors in the main. Most want sponsors who fit their business model

kenny · 09-10-2006, 12:19 PM

There are always going to be surfers who prefer text TGPs.

BTW, you would think skimming on a thumb TGP would piss the surfer off.

You click the picture because thats what you want to see and then your given another thumb TGP and 90 more thumbs that have to load

DarkJedi · 09-10-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

There are always going to be surfers who prefer text TGPs.

BTW, you would think skimming on a thumb TGP would piss the surfer off.

You click the picture because thats what you want to see and then your given another thumb TGP and 90 more thumbs that have to load

Same shit with text tgps, save a few.

polish_aristocrat · 09-10-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Fixed.

oh yeah, you must be right

just like with that random pic from google images that you pretend its me

polish_aristocrat · 09-10-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

you are assuming they are getting as many sales back, as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...

no disrecpect to you, but I think all sponsors benefit from that model

but then again, I just came from playing soccer so I'm tired, and since I don't run either a TGP nor a sponsor program, I don't really feel the need to debate it

Panky · 09-10-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

They aren't losing any sales. FHGs are all about getting traffic.

Shemp is talking about sites that when a thumb is clicked, the thumb does not link to the FHG or gallery advertising the sponsor. The link instead leads to another TGP or trade site. The sponsor is losing out because the content is being misused. As Shemp pointed out, it is "trade bait". Linking to a trade using sponsor content does not benefit that sponsor one bit.

Roald · 09-10-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

There are always going to be surfers who prefer text TGPs.

BTW, you would think skimming on a thumb TGP would piss the surfer off.

You click the picture because thats what you want to see and then your given another thumb TGP and 90 more thumbs that have to load

Ofcourse it pisses the surfer off. Thats why I rather have a 50k non skim tgp than a 200k skimming one. But its harder to grow ofcourse when they don't skim.

kenny · 09-10-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Same shit with text tgps, save a few.

Lets put it this way..

I don't think the surfer really gives a fuck either way as long he/she gets what they come for

Obviously a surfer will like a no skim text TGP over a thumb one set at 60% and vice versa

kenny · 09-10-2006, 12:32 PM

I don't know if sponsors benifit from having their thumbs skimmed on TGPs.

The surfer might remember the girl and stay away from clicking anything with her image on it.

especially if they tried it more then once and ended up with spyware or something

xclusive · 09-10-2006, 12:33 PM

I get some of if not the best quality of traffic from Shemp.com ratios are always great with the traffic.

09-10-2006, 12:36 PM

there is no money in text TGP's, so move along.
there is no traffic coming from text TGP's, now please leave.

Panky · 09-10-2006, 12:41 PM

To answer the question, no I don't think text TGP sites are dead. The only reason it appears that thumb sites rule, is because of the marketing and that they are visually appealing, so everyone and their brother launched one.

Some people are learning that switching over to a thumb only format, isn't producing as much profit and/or traffic for them as their text only format, so some people are switching back to text or a combination of thumbs and text.

marketsmart · 09-10-2006, 12:41 PM

i personally think that text tegp's will slow down in the next 5 years. people with content (2257 compliant) are already experimenting with different forms...

Deraj · 09-10-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Aside from a few old skool text tgps (thehun/worldsex etc) are text TGPs dead?

Thumb TGPs are the norm now?

Discuss.

Text is awesome.. very l33t

Doctor Dre · 09-10-2006, 12:57 PM

There are a lot of big ones... look at sunporno.

Doug E · 09-10-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shemp

...isnt it obvious?...the thumbs are often being used as trade bait, to redirect the surfer to another TGP...not to the gallery...imo, that is an improper use of sponsors content..

I think it should be noted theres a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. You can't lump them both together.

The CJ sites I can see as being used improperly cuz you cant get a single click to the gallery, meaning the thumb is in no way being used to promote the sponsor so the content is being used improperly according to most sponsor rules.

But theres not much negative said or to be said about the accepted TGP style of 50 - 80 skim. The more traffic a TGP gets from using that thumb as a trade tool results in more traffic going to that thumb link anyways. Who's going to complain about that?

As for text tgp's, we've seen a tonne of American webmasters switch to this format since 2257. Theyre one way to ensure your traffic is good quality I suppose, weeding out the non english speakers. And of course SE is better with them. But thumb TGP's are visually pleasing and hard to beat in an industry that is based on visual pleasure.

the Shemp · 09-10-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug E

I think it should be noted theres a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. You can't lump them both together.

The CJ sites I can see as being used improperly cuz you cant get a single click to the gallery, meaning the thumb is in no way being used to promote the sponsor so the content is being used improperly according to most sponsor rules.

But theres not much negative said or to be said about the accepted TGP style of 50 - 80 skim. The more traffic a TGP gets from using that thumb as a trade tool results in more traffic going to that thumb link anyways. Who's going to complain about that?

As for text tgp's, we've seen a tonne of American webmasters switch to this format since 2257. Theyre one way to ensure your traffic is good quality I suppose, weeding out the non english speakers. And of course SE is better with them. But thumb TGP's are visually pleasing and hard to beat in an industry that is based on visual pleasure.

thanks for the TGP info...i'll make a note of it ;)

Panky · 09-10-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug E

I think it should be noted theres a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. You can't lump them both together.

The CJ sites I can see as being used improperly cuz you cant get a single click to the gallery, meaning the thumb is in no way being used to promote the sponsor so the content is being used improperly according to most sponsor rules.

But theres not much negative said or to be said about the accepted TGP style of 50 - 80 skim. The more traffic a TGP gets from using that thumb as a trade tool results in more traffic going to that thumb link anyways. Who's going to complain about that?

Yes, there is a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. But the basic point still remains the same. Both a CJ and a regular thumb TGP feed their trades using mostly sponsor provided content, whether it is from a submitter or creating a fake TGP. Few sites consist of purchased content alone. The only benefit to the sponsor would be if the TGP or CJ site concentrated on only their sites within their program. When a site begins to list galleries advertising multiple sponsors, the competition gets fierce for the traffic. Even with 50-80 skim, it's still a misuse of sponsor content.

The only time a CJ or TGP site is not misusing content, is if the site has no skim whatsoever, the site only skims traffic from thumbs of their purchased content, or the skimmed sponsor thumbs link to custom sites or tour pages advertising only that sponsor the thumb belongs to.

Whenever a site uses a sponsor thumb that links to anywhere other than a site, gallery, or custom page solely advertising that sponsor, it's misusing sponsor content no matter what the skim rate is.

Acne · 09-10-2006, 02:51 PM

This topic is fucking retarded. Most of the largest fucking TGPs on the planet are in text only format and do not skim. Even your larger thumb TGPs such as Madthumbs, Bunnyteens, OnlyCarla etc will give you a gallery for the first 3 clicks. Guess what happens after that? trade fucking city. Im not saying that there are no CJ text sites of course there are. I just think that people tend to trust a text tgp more so than they would a thumb TGP i.e. madthumbs given their track record. they suck. Great business model if the year was 2000. Moronic business model when the year reflects 2006.

oh yeah and do not fuck with what the Shemp says. He pwns all of your turd peons. anyone that wants to fuck with that statement can suck the assjuice out of last weeks underwear from the floor of my closet. and another

for you mother fucker.

Panky · 09-10-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

thanks for the TGP info...i'll make a note of it ;)

LOL! ....

DamageX · 09-10-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

thanks for the TGP info...i'll make a note of it ;)

Violetta · 09-10-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

...isnt it obvious?...the thumbs are often being used as trade bait, to redirect the surfer to another TGP...not to the gallery...imo, that is an improper use of sponsors content..

My program is to small to deny affiliates doing that. I'd loose 90% of my affiliates or traffic if I did not allow that

wizhard · 09-10-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Aside from a few old skool text tgps (thehun/worldsex etc) are text TGPs dead?

Thumb TGPs are the norm now?

Discuss.

LOL, no text link TGP/MPG's are very much alive and kicking these days.

Thumb TGP/MPG's are by far the most popular out of the two as these days there are loads of adult webmasters so very keen to give a surfer easier access to free porn to get the traffic stats up quickly so they can make a few $ selling partner accounts on the back of their "impresive" traffic stats.

andrej_NDC · 09-10-2006, 04:26 PM

Most people make thumb tgps nowadays, because they are easier to grow. But text tgps convert a lot better, the traffic is more tartgetted because of descriptions(if they are good). Right now I know only 1 good converting thumb tgp.

dissipate · 09-10-2006, 05:29 PM

I love my text sites.... can't beat the free SE traffic

dcortez · 09-10-2006, 07:45 PM

Text GPs are likely to increase in popularity because:

1) Light on bandwidth.

2) Text qualifies surfers more - a lot of window shoppers will leave a text GP and conversly, the non-(thumbnail)-clutter of a text GP attracts serious surfers (who convert).

3) With sponsors offering FHG and descriptions, it's much easier to blast off several hundred pages/niches of text GPs.

4) While it's a soft advantage, 2257 seems to have convinced many affiliates to go non-graphic (to avoid hosting explicit image content) - text GP wins again, although I'm not sure that 2257 exempts (or will exempt) explicit sexual text as much as many would like to think.

5) Oh yeh, SE traffic rocks and it's FREE to text GPs!

darxoul · 09-10-2006, 08:00 PM

Fuck, was reading and saw Doctor Dre sign image (the one about steve) ROFL so cruel! hahahaha

Quotealex · 09-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

They aren't losing any sales.

I'm not so sure about that. When surfers click on a thumb tha get directed to a TGP site instead of the gallery, they think twice about re-clicking on the same thumb.

09-10-2006, 10:08 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Are text tgps pretty much dead? Aside from a few old skool text tgps (thehun/worldsex etc) are text TGPs dead? Thumb TGPs are the norm now? Discuss.

09-10-2006, 10:13 AM	#2
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	There are some text guys with some pretty sweet traffic. Not all of them are as old as you think. Mike/Bike has a text network of TGP's that has alot of traffic, very good traffic too. __________________ sig too big

09-10-2006, 10:13 AM	#3
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	well there are very few NEW text tgp arround but i think they will come back! __________________

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09-10-2006, 12:16 PM	#21
Axeman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Swamp Posts: 5,201	The only sponsor I knew who actively tried to prevent this was ATK. But it is a task virtually impossible to regulate. Possible sure, but very labor intensive. __________________ XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.com

09-10-2006, 11:19 AM	#5
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Text TGP dead? theshemp 89.com pussy.org persiankitty thehun richardsrealm worldsex al4a ampland elephantlist marks bookmarks I could go on Some have other sites or are moving/mixing in thumbs. Text TGPs represent a ton of traffic! Still plenty of modems out there.

09-10-2006, 11:28 AM	#6
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	pinkworld ^^^

09-10-2006, 11:31 AM	#7
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	Yes text TGP's are dead... in China. 95% of the chinese population prefers Thumb TGP's.

09-10-2006, 12:07 PM	#13
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	With the ammended 2257 requirements recently passed & the lack of sponsors willing to allow webmaster physical custody of docs, I went all text on my entire network. (some still have a few thumbs, but they're all non nude thumbs)..

09-10-2006, 12:17 PM	#22
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Text tgp's are some of the largest tgp's in the world. I don't see them slowing down a bit? DH

09-10-2006, 12:19 PM	#24
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	There are always going to be surfers who prefer text TGPs. BTW, you would think skimming on a thumb TGP would piss the surfer off. You click the picture because thats what you want to see and then your given another thumb TGP and 90 more thumbs that have to load __________________ 7

09-10-2006, 12:32 PM	#31
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I don't know if sponsors benifit from having their thumbs skimmed on TGPs. The surfer might remember the girl and stay away from clicking anything with her image on it. especially if they tried it more then once and ended up with spyware or something __________________ 7

09-10-2006, 12:33 PM	#32
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	I get some of if not the best quality of traffic from Shemp.com ratios are always great with the traffic.

09-10-2006, 12:36 PM	#33
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	there is no money in text TGP's, so move along. there is no traffic coming from text TGP's, now please leave.

09-10-2006, 12:41 PM	#34
Panky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 269	To answer the question, no I don't think text TGP sites are dead. The only reason it appears that thumb sites rule, is because of the marketing and that they are visually appealing, so everyone and their brother launched one. Some people are learning that switching over to a thumb only format, isn't producing as much profit and/or traffic for them as their text only format, so some people are switching back to text or a combination of thumbs and text.

09-10-2006, 12:41 PM	#35
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i personally think that text tegp's will slow down in the next 5 years. people with content (2257 compliant) are already experimenting with different forms...

09-10-2006, 02:51 PM	#41
Acne So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bel Air, CA Posts: 758	This topic is fucking retarded. Most of the largest fucking TGPs on the planet are in text only format and do not skim. Even your larger thumb TGPs such as Madthumbs, Bunnyteens, OnlyCarla etc will give you a gallery for the first 3 clicks. Guess what happens after that? trade fucking city. Im not saying that there are no CJ text sites of course there are. I just think that people tend to trust a text tgp more so than they would a thumb TGP i.e. madthumbs given their track record. they suck. Great business model if the year was 2000. Moronic business model when the year reflects 2006. oh yeah and do not fuck with what the Shemp says. He pwns all of your turd peons. anyone that wants to fuck with that statement can suck the assjuice out of last weeks underwear from the floor of my closet. and another for you mother fucker. Last edited by Acne; 09-10-2006 at 02:52 PM..

09-10-2006, 04:26 PM	#46
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Most people make thumb tgps nowadays, because they are easier to grow. But text tgps convert a lot better, the traffic is more tartgetted because of descriptions(if they are good). Right now I know only 1 good converting thumb tgp.

09-10-2006, 05:29 PM	#47
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I love my text sites.... can't beat the free SE traffic

09-10-2006, 07:45 PM	#48
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Text GPs are likely to increase in popularity because: 1) Light on bandwidth. 2) Text qualifies surfers more - a lot of window shoppers will leave a text GP and conversly, the non-(thumbnail)-clutter of a text GP attracts serious surfers (who convert). 3) With sponsors offering FHG and descriptions, it's much easier to blast off several hundred pages/niches of text GPs. 4) While it's a soft advantage, 2257 seems to have convinced many affiliates to go non-graphic (to avoid hosting explicit image content) - text GP wins again, although I'm not sure that 2257 exempts (or will exempt) explicit sexual text as much as many would like to think. 5) Oh yeh, SE traffic rocks and it's FREE to text GPs!

09-10-2006, 08:00 PM	#49
darxoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 111	Fuck, was reading and saw Doctor Dre sign image (the one about steve) ROFL so cruel! hahahaha