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Old 09-07-2006, 01:19 PM   #1
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Is it possible for the Stock Market to be Rigged?

Can the stock market be manipulated to influence other world markets ect?

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Old 09-07-2006, 01:22 PM   #2
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spill your knowledge here to support your thoughts.
That would require me to write several paragraphs, which would cost me several minutes, while the same information is readily from other sources - one of which I just pointed out to you.
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Can the stock market be manipulated to influence other world markets ect?

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of course it can. is this a serious question? With mass volume buying comes peaked interest which in turn means people buy driving up the price but the guy (whale) with the big buy when low sells after everyone buys (price is now higher) and makes his cash. selling all of his stock in turn makes people think something is happening so everyone sells and drives the price back down. he already made his money.

rinse and repeat as needed. takes a ton of cash to do so though.

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Old 09-07-2006, 01:34 PM   #12
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That would require me to write several paragraphs, which would cost me several minutes, while the same information is readily from other sources - one of which I just pointed out to you.
hey pal either play or fuck off - im playing devils advocate here!
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:37 PM   #13
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:12 PM   #14
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No...Dow Jones and Nasdaq both use NATS
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:13 PM   #15
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No...Dow Jones and Nasdaq both use NATS
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:20 PM   #16
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hey pal either play or fuck off - im playing devils advocate here!
Okay, just for the fun of it. I say it can be manipulated. The price of everything that is traded, be it stocks, currencies or commodities is mainly dependent on what traders believe is a good price. Stock movements are 80% psychology. Shit, sometimes the stock price falls below what the company's worth if you just sell everything it owns.

There's this story about a guy who found a website from an energy company called powergen, who supposedly had a new plant in italy. The site was just registered and under construction.

So what he did was buy the stock and post his tip on the boards. The thing went viral and the stock price which was fairly constant before rose 6-10% if I remember correctly. Powergen denied having any plans about italy, but the price was still rising.

Then it turned out that the site was supposed to be for a penis enlargement company and the price went back down.

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Old 09-07-2006, 02:28 PM   #18
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:46 PM   #19
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:47 PM   #20
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Why do you think people spam penny stocks...
Those emails are supposed to be a secret..."Jim told Leslie about a hot stock tip"
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:15 PM   #22
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There are huge scammers in the stock market, as evident by the mass number of spam e-mails sent out by those trying to make a quick off of failing companies. They?ll spam millions of e-mails, trying to get thousands of people to buy into a fairly worthless stock. In a week the stock will go up fairly dramatically, say from a few pennies and claim the stock will go up to a level of grandeur. The spammer then will unload all of his stock significantly before then, making a shitload while killing the stock, making whatever you invested utterly worthless.

That said there are tons of good stocks out there. I invested heavily in Techwell and it really paid off big for me, but I only did so after doing research (though honestly Techwell was more of a luck thing for me than anything else; all stocks I?ve made any money with have been by luck lol) on the company. I?ve been burned as well (ADM stock, fucking ethanol!). It?s all one big game where you can make a little, make a lot, or lose a whole fucking lot? I wouldn?t play with it unless you have at least ten thousand to mess around with and it won?t affect you at all to lose it.
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Its the ol'Pump and Dump....alot of the mob is into that around here. They still even do the ol'way Smilling and Dialing. Have a bunch of people thinking their working at a TeleMarketing Co....Next thing they know some guy is smacking them in the head asking if they'd like to swim with the fishs
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Theres manipulation all over the market. If you put in a Market Order instead of a Limit they skim off the top alittle. Alot of the ol'style manipulation has been outted....going on TV or radio and talking up a stock.(Now they have to disclose whether they have the stock or not. It is a gamble just like poker....some people learn the unwritten rules and can make a living at it.
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There's tons of manipulation! Market makers have total control. Then there are also shorters who can sell millions of shares they don't even own in order to drive prices down...
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No...Dow Jones and Nasdaq both use NATS
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any examples to support your claims?
Jonesy, This is a vague question but 4/27/06 at 10am sharp there was a "World Wide Sell Program" that I will say was the Kiss of Death for the Markets.
QQQQ 52wk Range: 35.54 - 43.31 -42.23= 1.08 POINTS FROM HIGH.
Notice 2x's normal volume 173,950,096/2= 86,975,048

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Jonesy, This is a vague question but 4/27/06 at 10am sharp there was a "World Wide Sell Program" that I will say was the Kiss of Death for the Markets.
QQQQ 52wk Range: 35.54 - 43.31 -42.23= 1.08 POINTS FROM HIGH.
Notice 2x's normal volume 173,950,096/2= 86,975,048

28-Apr-06 42.00 42.22 41.78 41.85 88,876,600 41.82
27-Apr-06 41.67 42.49 41.50 42.26 173,950,096 42.23***
26-Apr-06 41.86 42.06 41.70 41.86 82,537,000 41.83
Did anyone else witness the "World Wide Sell Program"?
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Jonesy, This is a vague question but 4/27/06 at 10am sharp there was a "World Wide Sell Program" that I will say was the Kiss of Death for the Markets.
QQQQ 52wk Range: 35.54 - 43.31 -42.23= 1.08 POINTS FROM HIGH.
Notice 2x's normal volume 173,950,096/2= 86,975,048

28-Apr-06 42.00 42.22 41.78 41.85 88,876,600 41.82
27-Apr-06 41.67 42.49 41.50 42.26 173,950,096 42.23***
26-Apr-06 41.86 42.06 41.70 41.86 82,537,000 41.83
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of course it can. is this a serious question? With mass volume buying comes peaked interest which in turn means people buy driving up the price but the guy (whale) with the big buy when low sells after everyone buys (price is now higher) and makes his cash. selling all of his stock in turn makes people think something is happening so everyone sells and drives the price back down. he already made his money.

rinse and repeat as needed. takes a ton of cash to do so though.
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the stock market is rigged like the pope is cathloic and for yearsssss now and as usuall we have to pay for it litteraly
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