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JD · 09-25-2006, 07:44 AM

fidy fatties

Jman · 09-25-2006, 08:10 AM

I'm in. Allready started couple of months ago to work out regulerly and changed diet.

Went below 220 and still need to go under 200.

Let the Games Begin

BoyAlley · 09-25-2006, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Stats yes, pics no.

If I succeed, though, in 6 months I'll get my chest, stomach, shoulders and back waxed, and post some nude pics on GFY for BoyAlley and Juicy

GURL I'm not gonna forget that. I'm put it on my calendar right now.

cmon Cmon CMON!

Libertine · 09-25-2006, 09:59 AM

Anyone want to set up a multi-user blog for this? Just some freehosted blogger.com thingy will do...

If not, I'll go and make one myself tomorrow (expect a complete lack of design, though).

JD · 09-25-2006, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Anyone want to set up a multi-user blog for this? Just some freehosted blogger.com thingy will do...

If not, I'll go and make one myself tomorrow (expect a complete lack of design, though).

did you read my post on page #1? I'll set it up and a forum as well

Huggles · 09-25-2006, 10:10 AM

I want to gain weight, not lose it!

Libertine · 09-25-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

did you read my post on page #1? I'll set it up and a forum as well

Sounds good!

Dunno if a forum is necessary, though. We can always abuse GFY, after all

Naughty Justice · 09-25-2006, 10:14 AM

I'm about 6'2.5" and weigh around 144.6lbs as of this morning, think I could stand losing a few more pounds...

My actual goal weight is around 180lbs yuup, good luck to you guys though. Like someone else said eating 6 times a day is the best way to lose weight it kicks your metabolism back into gear making your body burn fat for you even when you're just sitting around, then when you go to work out it works much better than a sluggish metabolism that barely burns for you.

JD · 09-25-2006, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Sounds good!

Dunno if a forum is necessary, though. We can always abuse GFY, after all

ok I'll set up a blog tonight. I hate WP:MU so how about a single blog with categories for each person?

Libertine · 09-25-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

ok I'll set up a blog tonight. I hate WP:MU so how about a single blog with categories for each person?

Sure, sounds good to me.

Going into my last evening of unhealthy living right now... ugh, the horror

Will be back in this thread tomorrow, nursing a hangover and eating fruits and veggies

Pleasurepays · 09-25-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

ok I'll set up a blog tonight. I hate WP:MU so how about a single blog with categories for each person?

i'll do it too, thats a good idea.
set one up for me or i'll drive down to tacoma and hide in the bushes, wait for you to come outside and kick you in the nuts.

Pleasurepays · 09-25-2006, 11:14 AM

... going to the gym right now.

gooddomains · 09-25-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Here's my plan:

I weigh 213 lbs (97 kg) right now, at 6' tall (1.84 m). I want to get that to 176 lbs (80 kg) in the next six months.

With regards to food, I'm pretty sure cutting out all junk food, pizza, candy and beer will be enough.

With regards to exercise, I'm planning on running for 30 mins 3 times a week, as well as going to the gym 3 times a week for a workout mostly consisting of cardio with a bit of light weights thrown in.

I join you once I am down to 100Kg

JD · 09-25-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i'll do it too, thats a good idea.
set one up for me or i'll drive down to tacoma and hide in the bushes, wait for you to come outside and kick you in the nuts.

fallenmuffin · 09-25-2006, 12:17 PM

I'm game! Already lost 10lbs this month so far...

Klen · 09-25-2006, 12:19 PM

Today i break records-two hours i was been in gym and then 2 hours drive with bycicle.Now i was eated ton of meat and drink three beers hehe

JD · 09-25-2006, 09:52 PM

any designers want to donate a slick blog design for the new site? I'll have the domain+wordpress installed in about 20 mins

edit: I've give the designer a nice ad spot on the site

JD · 09-25-2006, 10:01 PM

www.awmhealth.com it's up but looks like shit

if you want to contribute, register here http://www.awmhealth.com/wp-register.php then ICQ me and I'll make you a category all of your own

Libertine · 09-26-2006, 08:49 AM

This WP theme looks pretty suitable, and it's GPL: http://menza.org/mint/pepper/ordered...zoic-2.0.1.zip

galleryseek · 09-26-2006, 09:18 AM

www.fitpractical.com it's all ya need

TG Rebecca · 09-26-2006, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz

how about a weight gain challenge? thats what i need

ROFL! i would put you to shame.. ;)

Tom_PM · 09-26-2006, 09:58 AM

For the past couple of months I've been losing weight. I started around 225 and am only down to 210, but I havent really changed eating habits, just added walking and some aeorobics and a little weight lifting. Nothing requiring anything but a dumb bell really. I also write down every food I eat every day, plus what I did for exercise, and that days weight and girth (I've lost a few inches as well).
I'll keep going and I'm sure I'll keep slimming down, but as I said I havent gone on a "diet", just added some needed movement to my day basically.

Zoe_Zoebaboe · 09-26-2006, 10:30 AM

I've lost a pretty good amount of weight in the past year, couple things I changed:

1. Diet, Cardio, Weights. You need to do ALL three to achieve healthy weight loss.

Diet - Eat five smaller meals a day instead of three big ones. Someone once told me to treat your body/metabolism like a fire. If you continually add small logs to it it'll keep on burning. If you unload a big stack of logs the fire will burn out.

You can also eat anything you want, if you're willing to make up for the calorie intake. Take a walk or something after a big meal.

For a while I was counting the calories I was taking in and how many calories I was burning by exercising. It's a GREAT way to see how much you usuallyu eat in a day, and give you a better idea on how much you need to work out or how you need to change around what you eat during the day. http://www.calorie-count.com is a great site to see how many calories are in the foods you eat.

Cardio and Weights- Since I *and i'm sure most of us* sit on our asses all day, I forget how much I lose by not doing the usual running around a normal job would have. I force myself to go to the gym almost every day. At this point, I go six days a week. Three days of cardio, and three days of circuit training *weights*. Now, I understand there's no way to go from not doing anything to being a gym rat, but start small. You should be doing at least 3 days a week of cardio activity, even if it's just walking. Weight training is just as important though, especially if you're losing a lot of weight. Cardio burns the fat, and weights help you tone up so you don't end up being some flabby skin monster. heh.

I'm no expert, but i'm just telling what i've been doing, and I can honestly say it works!

Libertine · 09-26-2006, 01:40 PM

My first day:

Net weight: 96 kg (211 lbs)
Waist: 100 cm (39")

Calories taken today: ~1600
Exercise: a 1 hour walk

Hungry as fuck right now

IWantU_Jeff · 09-26-2006, 01:51 PM

Any weight you guys please lose, kindly ship to me..

thank you ;p

I should start a GFY Gain Weight thread for us over skinny folk ;p

JD · 09-26-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

My first day:

Net weight: 96 kg (211 lbs)
Waist: 100 cm (39")

Calories taken today: ~1600
Exercise: a 1 hour walk

Hungry as fuck right now

Whats your maintenance level for calories? Mine's 3200ish so I'm eating 500 cals per meal 6 times a day. That puts me in a 200 calorie/day defict just from food and I'm burning 5-600/day

If you drop your caloric intake too fast, you'll kill your metabolism

btw, those that registered, I've upgraded you ;)

edit: if you don't know how to use WP hit me up

Libertine · 09-26-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWantU_Jeff

Any weight you guys please lose, kindly ship to me..

thank you ;p

I should start a GFY Gain Weight thread for us over skinny folk ;p

Bulking is easy... eat, lift weights, eat, sleep, repeat...

Libertine · 09-26-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

Whats your maintenance level for calories? Mine's 3200ish so I'm eating 500 cals per meal 6 times a day. That puts me in a 200 calorie/day defict just from food and I'm burning 5-600/day

If you drop your caloric intake too fast, you'll kill your metabolism

btw, those that registered, I've upgraded you ;)

edit: if you don't know how to use WP hit me up

I need about 2500 calories a day to stay at my current weight, assuming moderate exercise.

I want to lose roughly 100 grams a day (which would work out to about 18 kg in 6 months, allowing me to reach my goal weight of ~80 kg), so if I consume 900 calories less than I use each day, everything will be well

Right now, I'm mainly focusing on on food, but as I lose weight, I will shift my focus to exercise, to keep my metabolism intact.

IWantU_Jeff · 09-26-2006, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Bulking is easy... eat, lift weights, eat, sleep, repeat...

Never worked for me that easy...really sucks

The best Ive ever did was put on about 20lbs muscle but Iwas on Amino/Creatine eating 6 times a day & working out 2.
I actually crashed pretty bad at one point too because I was over working.
No time for that now tho.. ah the days of a student when you had all that free time heh.. so any weight anyone wants to donate my way I will take.

BradM · 09-26-2006, 03:33 PM

I'm in. After my huge weight loss: 310 down to 205 last 2 years I have gone back up to 220. I need to drop 30 fast.

Sperm: I joined the blog. Name is... creatively... BradM

Thanks.

Pleasurepays · 09-26-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWantU_Jeff

Never worked for me that easy...really sucks

The best Ive ever did was put on about 20lbs muscle but Iwas on Amino/Creatine eating 6 times a day & working out 2.
I actually crashed pretty bad at one point too because I was over working.
No time for that now tho.. ah the days of a student when you had all that free time heh.. so any weight anyone wants to donate my way I will take.

its always about diet and training .

those two things have to be carefully planned and constantly monitored and tweaked for optimum results.

Pleasurepays · 09-26-2006, 03:38 PM

BTW,,,....

1) i tried to create an account at that blog and it never sent a password

2) this is by far the most poorly designed and obnoxious theme GFY has ever had.

AdultInsider Cloner · 09-26-2006, 03:49 PM

yep, lets do it!!!

fallenmuffin · 09-26-2006, 03:51 PM

I created an account for the blog.. let me know what we are suppose to be posted.. our own progress?

UniversalPass Pete · 09-26-2006, 03:56 PM

I need to loose about 15-20lbs! that would be perfect for me, I'm 5' 10" and 185, 165-170 is perfect for me. Just to much good food around!

JD · 09-26-2006, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

BTW,,,....

1) i tried to create an account at that blog and it never sent a password

2) this is by far the most poorly designed and obnoxious theme GFY has ever had.

emailed you a new pw

fallenmuffin, I'll be posting pics, routines, recipes, nifty tips/articles I find blah blah

edit: BradM you've been upgraded

Machete_ · 09-26-2006, 04:06 PM

I got www.freedietsthatwork.com and www.teendiet.net for sale

Email [email protected] with offer

IWantU_Jeff · 09-26-2006, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

its always about diet and training .

those two things have to be carefully planned and constantly monitored and tweaked for optimum results.

For sure, just sucked that I had to learn the hard way when I was younger.
I always do better/gain more wieght when I eat at home tho.. love home cooked meals.. but I admit to being lazy so the ordered lunches etc.. dont help...

but best of luck to everyone in this! Hope yall reach your goals

Mr. Romance · 09-26-2006, 04:41 PM

I am a perfect before

Mr. Romance

Pleasurepays · 09-26-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWantU_Jeff

For sure, just sucked that I had to learn the hard way when I was younger.
I always do better/gain more wieght when I eat at home tho.. love home cooked meals.. but I admit to being lazy so the ordered lunches etc.. dont help...

but best of luck to everyone in this! Hope yall reach your goals

my problem is completely annoying. i know it all, know exactly what i need to do, know exactly what i should be eating, how i should be training etc.. and dont do it.

i go in cycles... intense focus... get burned out... intense focus... get burned out etc.

right now i am working out again for the 4th week. starting to see some strength come back and feeling better everyday. diet is not completely under control (er... its actually 100% out of control) but i am starting to rein everything in and get back on track.

by december i want to be squatting 500 (deep) and dead lifting 600 again. not sure how much fat i can lose because eating for mass doesn't really jive with eating to lose fat, but i can lose quite a bit and achieve my goals.

this will be an useful tool to hold me accountable.

JD · 09-26-2006, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

my problem is completely annoying. i know it all, know exactly what i need to do, know exactly what i should be eating, how i should be training etc.. and dont do it.

i go in cycles... intense focus... get burned out... intense focus... get burned out etc.

right now i am working out again for the 4th week. starting to see some strength come back and feeling better everyday. diet is not completely under control (er... its actually 100% out of control) but i am starting to rein everything in and get back on track.

by december i want to be squatting 500 (deep) and dead lifting 600 again. not sure how much fat i can lose because eating for mass doesn't really jive with eating to lose fat, but i can lose quite a bit and achieve my goals.

this will be an useful tool to hold me accountable.

you're burning out because of the intense focus. Don't be so hardcore on it and gradualy phase into the hard shit. Slowly start cutting calories...work out longer/harder over time

RyuLion · 09-26-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I just got back from the bathroom, I think I just lost 10 lbs

lol, I drank some wierd stuff here in Mexico and lost 10 lbs also with three days of shitting..

sniperwolf · 09-26-2006, 06:36 PM

This thread is helpful in so many ways....hehe

Libertine · 09-29-2006, 12:17 PM

The site is looking pretty good!

polish_aristocrat · 09-29-2006, 12:32 PM

I need to lose about 25 pounds, If im not gonna do it till end of the year, I gonna commit suicide

Libertine · 09-29-2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I need to lose about 25 pounds, If im not gonna do it till end of the year, I gonna commit suicide

Be sure to join awmhealth.com and keep us updated on your progress

fallenmuffin · 09-29-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

The site is looking pretty good!

See you joined up too.. lol post some pics

polish_aristocrat · 09-29-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Be sure to join awmhealth.com and keep us updated on your progress

heh I see Im same height as you

edit: you want to be like 75 kg?

Libertine · 09-29-2006, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

heh I see Im same height as you

edit: you want to be like 75 kg?

Nah, 80 kg is my goal. I want to go back to the days when I had 8-pack abs and could run for an hour straight without getting tired

Libertine · 09-29-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

See you joined up too.. lol post some pics

No pics until I am ripped and sexy again

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	For the past couple of months I've been losing weight. I started around 225 and am only down to 210, but I havent really changed eating habits, just added walking and some aeorobics and a little weight lifting. Nothing requiring anything but a dumb bell really. I also write down every food I eat every day, plus what I did for exercise, and that days weight and girth (I've lost a few inches as well). I'll keep going and I'm sure I'll keep slimming down, but as I said I havent gone on a "diet", just added some needed movement to my day basically. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

09-26-2006, 10:30 AM	#73
Zoe_Zoebaboe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sin City Posts: 4,463	I've lost a pretty good amount of weight in the past year, couple things I changed: 1. Diet, Cardio, Weights. You need to do ALL three to achieve healthy weight loss. Diet - Eat five smaller meals a day instead of three big ones. Someone once told me to treat your body/metabolism like a fire. If you continually add small logs to it it'll keep on burning. If you unload a big stack of logs the fire will burn out. You can also eat anything you want, if you're willing to make up for the calorie intake. Take a walk or something after a big meal. For a while I was counting the calories I was taking in and how many calories I was burning by exercising. It's a GREAT way to see how much you usuallyu eat in a day, and give you a better idea on how much you need to work out or how you need to change around what you eat during the day. http://www.calorie-count.com is a great site to see how many calories are in the foods you eat. Cardio and Weights- Since I and i'm sure most of us sit on our asses all day, I forget how much I lose by not doing the usual running around a normal job would have. I force myself to go to the gym almost every day. At this point, I go six days a week. Three days of cardio, and three days of circuit training weights. Now, I understand there's no way to go from not doing anything to being a gym rat, but start small. You should be doing at least 3 days a week of cardio activity, even if it's just walking. Weight training is just as important though, especially if you're losing a lot of weight. Cardio burns the fat, and weights help you tone up so you don't end up being some flabby skin monster. heh. I'm no expert, but i'm just telling what i've been doing, and I can honestly say it works! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jennabea ICQ: 166862923 Email: [email protected] Last edited by Zoe_Zoebaboe; 09-26-2006 at 10:32 AM..

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