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SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 01:30 PM

SO let me get this straight.. aff was buying traffic from zango who was stealing traffic from aff affiliates so basically zango was ripping off webmasters and selling the traffic right back to aff ?

And zango is mad at will76 for thinking zango was just stealing the hits for themselves , when actually they were stealing it to sell back to aff ?

Lars please tell us this isnt true..

Daruma · 10-12-2006, 01:33 PM

Lars has been extremely silent on this whole issue...

woj · 10-12-2006, 01:46 PM

sig spot...

boldy · 10-12-2006, 01:47 PM

I fucking like cookies

DarkJedi · 10-12-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

SO let me get this straight.. aff was buying traffic from zango who was stealing traffic from aff affiliates so basically zango was ripping off webmasters and selling the traffic right back to aff ?

And zango is mad at will76 for thinking zango was just stealing the hits for themselves , when actually they were stealing it to sell back to aff ?

Pretty much.

Violetta · 10-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Bump for Lars

CIVMatt · 10-12-2006, 01:58 PM

Damn... looking forward to this one

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-12-2006, 02:02 PM

lars will never answer.......

CaptainHowdy · 10-12-2006, 02:07 PM

Zig zpot...

SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetDomainia

lars will never answer.......

i dont see why not , its understandable they might not have known "exactly" what they were getting in to ( aff ).

Although i have said this before and been proven wrong , this sort of advertising method ( scooping your own affiliates sales ) cant possibly payoff in the long run.. it just cant , it would be the worst possible move a company could make , besides opening themselves up to a possible class action lawsuit by some greedy lawyers or just from concerned webmasters, in the end it means webmasters stop promoting them and they no longer have sales to "scoop"..

QuaWee · 10-12-2006, 02:18 PM

lol, any reps from aff going to speak on this?

SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

lol, any reps from aff going to speak on this?

im pretty sure dating gold has said they will can any advertiser using zango to promote them.. thats a pretty bold statement it would be nice to hear others follow suit

Machete_ · 10-12-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont see why not , its understandable they might not have known "exactly" what they were getting in to ( aff ).

Although i have said this before and been proven wrong , this sort of advertising method ( scooping your own affiliates sales ) cant possibly payoff in the long run.. it just cant , it would be the worst possible move a company could make , besides opening themselves up to a possible class action lawsuit by some greedy lawyers or just from concerned webmasters, in the end it means webmasters stop promoting them and they no longer have sales to "scoop"..

Maybe Zango have a "skip" list. AFF can provide Zango with the select affiliates ID's they DONT want zango to overwrite. That way AFF keeps the great affiliates that keeps the boat floating, but all the small guys gets fucked.

Or maybe there is a way for Zango to monitor what cookies and ID's were overwritten and spit out a report to AFF. That way AFF could manually add sales to those webmasters they want to keep ect.ect..

wjxxx · 10-12-2006, 02:33 PM

Sig placement

kenny · 10-12-2006, 05:07 PM

What does AFF have to say about these allegations?

sacX · 10-12-2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont see why not , its understandable they might not have known "exactly" what they were getting in to ( aff ).

Although i have said this before and been proven wrong , this sort of advertising method ( scooping your own affiliates sales ) cant possibly payoff in the long run.. it just cant , it would be the worst possible move a company could make ..

yeah except you had no problem with AWE and their revenue *share* that was actually a 14 day cookie, which they didn't declare.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX

yeah except you had no problem with AWE and their revenue *share* that was actually a 14 day cookie, which they didn't declare.

hmm i said that ? no i didnt , dont put words in my mouth especially wrong ones..

The easiest way to avoid confusion is to ASK someone. SO instead of "presuming" thats how i felt you should ask..

Did i have a problem with awe's cookie policy ?, yup i sure did and i griped just about as hard as anyone else did... are the two things related in any way whatsoever ? nope. If you had READ any of what i wrote it would be abundantly clear what you wrote above is not how i feel. When i got with AWE the very first concern i voiced was the 14 day cookie. infact my words were " its going to be tough selling 14 day cookies as revshare for cam affiliates "

But i have moved past that and so should you , awe's business model is a solid one built on reputation, their 14 day cookie policy may suck but flat out awe pays good , bette rthan other cam sponsors i have found.. does this mean it will be better for EVERYONE , no. Does this mean its ok not to disclose the cookie policy ? no . i think that was a bad move , but now that everyone knows , its your choice to prmote them or not..

DarkJedi · 10-12-2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny

What does AFF have to say about these allegations?

They laugh all the way to the bank

crockett · 10-12-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma

Lars has been extremely silent on this whole issue...

yea think..

makes yea wonder if this is why everyone is bitching about shitty conversions for Cams.com and AFF lately.

kenny · 10-12-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

yea think..

makes yea wonder if this is why everyone is bitching about shitty conversions for Cams.com and AFF lately.

I don't think a company like that would take a risk like that

georgeyw · 10-12-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

I don't think a company like that would take a risk like that

Are you serious? I don't think itwould really bother them.

L-Pink · 10-12-2006, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny

I don't think a company like that would take a risk like that

Yea well, bogus profiles don't help either.

.

MaddCaz · 10-12-2006, 09:26 PM

thats why I dont fuck with neighbors...

Zarathustra · 10-12-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

SO let me get this straight.. aff was buying traffic from zango who was stealing traffic from aff affiliates so basically zango was ripping off webmasters and selling the traffic right back to aff ?

And zango is mad at will76 for thinking zango was just stealing the hits for themselves , when actually they were stealing it to sell back to aff ?

Lars please tell us this isnt true..

SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Yea well, bogus profiles don't help either.

.

could be triplets

RawAlex · 10-12-2006, 10:04 PM

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, shits all over the place like a duck...

I leave the rest of you to figure it out.

Alex

lazycash · 10-12-2006, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Yea well, bogus profiles don't help either.

.

I went on a few dates while she was in Phoenix, but she moved to New Jersey and we lost touch. It appears she sure has moved a lot in the last year.

L-Pink · 10-12-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I went on a few dates while she was in Phoenix, but she moved to New Jersey and we lost touch. It appears she sure has moved a lot in the last year.

TampaToker · 10-12-2006, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I went on a few dates while she was in Phoenix, but she moved to New Jersey and we lost touch. It appears she sure has moved a lot in the last year.

Thanks for the laugh i needed that

SmokeyTheBear · 10-12-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, shits all over the place like a duck...

I leave the rest of you to figure it out.

Alex

ducks unlimited is having a convention ?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-12-2006, 11:33 PM

RawAlex · 10-12-2006, 11:34 PM

There are ducks all over... but the big ducks are laughing their bills off all the way to the bank.

... and yes, it wouldn't be hard for an exemption to exist for certain accounts or codes... Bid all cams.com except if contains g700080 or whatever. I am sure keeping the top 20 or 30 affiliates in the clear would be a breeze.

Alex

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 12:33 AM

bump 4 lars

Daruma · 10-13-2006, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

bump 4 lars

lars cannot come to the computer right now..

martinsc · 10-13-2006, 12:56 AM

bump bump

Antonio · 10-13-2006, 02:38 AM

I'd hit it:

King of Queens · 10-13-2006, 03:39 AM

the link to this thread should be posted in every AFF etc promotional thread until Lars speaks up.

That might put a small dent in his new affiliate siagn up conversion rates at least from here

tenderobject · 10-13-2006, 03:48 AM

fuck zango i need to get rid of that scumare off my pc

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 06:40 AM

hmmm....

rigrunner · 10-13-2006, 07:09 AM

Bump for this, I'm interested to hear the AFF stance on the situation...

scottybuzz · 10-13-2006, 07:31 AM

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Quickdraw · 10-13-2006, 08:01 AM

webcams.com has been awful silent as well. I wonder how the affiliate account 'dnathan' is doing over there.
They just disappeared from the boards aftert this thing blew up. Wonder why.

tranza · 10-13-2006, 08:07 AM

If that's true I'm dropping AFF.

I'd like to see a reply from Lars in this thread. Since he ALWAYS replies on threads about AFF his silence would tell a lot in this case.

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

webcams.com has been awful silent as well. I wonder how the affiliate account 'dnathan' is doing over there.
They just disappeared from the boards aftert this thing blew up. Wonder why.

I think this picture says a lot

from ref link to none ref

Daruma · 10-13-2006, 08:42 AM

Lars is online right now... btw

Quickdraw · 10-13-2006, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

I think this picture says a lot

from ref link to none ref

Kind of, I noted this behaviour in webcams.com as well, although after I clicked a real affiliates code leading to the join page, it doesn't have any affiliate codes anywhere either, so that seems to be normal. So after filling out the join form I was transferred to a page that did include the affiliates code and it was 'dnathan', which was not the original affiliate code that was in the original browser.

If you go through your history in certain zango spots you will see that the URL that zango sends you to is http:// www .webcams.com/link.php?reseller=dnathan&type=1&rev=0&_u=/index.php?page=join, which is the zango browser window you see in your picture before it does the redirect to not show a query string with the affiliate code.

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TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 08:50 AM

ok..thanks for the info

TheSenator · 10-13-2006, 09:11 AM

I can hear all the chatter in the backroom deals.

DTK · 10-13-2006, 09:20 AM

0:6000 on traffic that has converted clickcash at 1:400 for years... adios and

10-12-2006, 01:30 PM	#1
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	zango - aff - CLIFFNOTES? SO let me get this straight.. aff was buying traffic from zango who was stealing traffic from aff affiliates so basically zango was ripping off webmasters and selling the traffic right back to aff ? And zango is mad at will76 for thinking zango was just stealing the hits for themselves , when actually they were stealing it to sell back to aff ? Lars please tell us this isnt true.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-12-2006, 01:33 PM	#2
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10-12-2006, 01:46 PM	#3
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10-12-2006, 01:51 PM	#6
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10-12-2006, 11:34 PM	#32
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	There are ducks all over... but the big ducks are laughing their bills off all the way to the bank. ... and yes, it wouldn't be hard for an exemption to exist for certain accounts or codes... Bid all cams.com except if contains g700080 or whatever. I am sure keeping the top 20 or 30 affiliates in the clear would be a breeze. Alex

10-13-2006, 12:33 AM	#33
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10-13-2006, 12:56 AM	#35
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10-13-2006, 08:01 AM	#42
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10-13-2006, 08:07 AM	#43
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10-13-2006, 08:42 AM	#45
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