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Old 10-24-2006, 04:17 AM   #1
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So I guess Lars/Streamray/AFF are hijacking my traffic via Zango.

Was checking my stats on one of my domains that has "webcams" in it. And yep.. There's the Zango tool bar user agent... You can be sure I will never promote cams, aff or any products those companies EVER have.
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:20 AM   #2
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Was checking my stats on one of my domains that has "webcams" in it. And yep.. There's the Zango tool bar user agent... You can be sure I will never promote cams, aff or any products those companies EVER have.
Dont be so harsh on him. He says he was forced!
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:21 AM   #3
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:22 AM   #4
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Dont be so harsh on him. He says he was forced!
Lets all rally to FREE LEGENDARY LARS!!!
The enron guy got 24 years... I wouldn't be so kind... Don't fuck with my money or my traffic...
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huh?....
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:20 AM   #6
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Don't worry. His company will buy you a beer at a show and you'll shake someone's hand from AFF. This will make you forget about the traffic and instead happy that you may earn some board props for being in a picture with Lars.
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:25 AM   #7
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Don't worry. His company will buy you a beer at a show and you'll shake someone's hand from AFF. This will make you forget about the traffic and instead happy that you may earn some board props for being in a picture with Lars.
So true.

Except you forgot they will call him 'bro' too.
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:31 AM   #8
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A wolf in sheeps clothing....

The extremes people will go to just to make a dollar. Probably still sleeps well at night though. It is an inherent character flaw.
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congrats moron, you just showed us how little you know about this issue
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:53 AM   #11
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Don't worry. His company will buy you a beer at a show and you'll shake someone's hand from AFF. This will make you forget about the traffic and instead happy that you may earn some board props for being in a picture with Lars.
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:07 AM   #13
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so Zango is a currently legal form of shaving eh?
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Don't worry. His company will buy you a beer at a show and you'll shake someone's hand from AFF. This will make you forget about the traffic and instead happy that you may earn some board props for being in a picture with Lars.
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Old 10-24-2006, 07:35 AM   #15
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Camazoncash.com has nothing to do with Zango. Send us your traffic. If anyone gets caught using it they will be terminated.
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You have to wonder who comes out looking worst from all this...

Business Week quoted an estimate that scumware operators are making $2 BILLION a year. Fair enough, that includes their business with mainstream companies, but they are only middlemen, so the value of hijacked traffic is much higher.

In other words this is a real issue which affects all of us, affiliates and sponsors alike. Yet here we are with just a handful of people keeping the topic alive at all, most are treating the issue as just another board drama, the lurkers still lurking and the post-count/sig whores carrying on business as usual. We almost deserve to be ripped off.
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Don't worry. His company will buy you a beer at a show and you'll shake someone's hand from AFF. This will make you forget about the traffic and instead happy that you may earn some board props for being in a picture with Lars.
ha ha ha.. I'm not a cheap whore...
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:45 PM   #18
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It's not his fault, Zango forced him to do business with them... It's not like he had a choice... the poor guy...
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countdown to "we have to bid on these keywords to protect our business... hey did you enter the contest for the playboy party passes??" post in 10......9.......8......
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Maybe he has to cover his stock market losses? No wait, he's doing well there too. I guess you can never have enough money.
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:16 PM   #21
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:41 PM   #25
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Camazoncash.com has nothing to do with Zango. Send us your traffic. If anyone gets caught using it they will be terminated.
The problem is other companies are probably bidding on the keyword "camazon"... Has anyone tried visiting the other cam sites with Zango installed?
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The problem is other companies are probably bidding on the keyword "camazon"... Has anyone tried visiting the other cam sites with Zango installed?
If I remember correctly, Lars is buying "cams" (which is why it would hijack my traffic) so it wouldn't be a stretch to think they're also buying "cam" which would be hijacking from CAMazon.
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Correction: Lars is forced to buy "cams"
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Was checking my stats on one of my domains that has "webcams" in it. And yep.. There's the Zango tool bar user agent... You can be sure I will never promote cams, aff or any products those companies EVER have.
Check out my program, I pay $40 per $1 trial join and NO Zango, No shave , No BS
The redesigned Cheating Wife Dating site I have is doing very well. Hit me up I cant take any email traffic, but other than that I am ready to make you money.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:01 AM   #30
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The FTC is all over this....

For Release: November 3, 2006

Zango, Inc. Settles FTC Charges

Will Give Up $3 Million in Ill-Gotten Gains for Unfair and Deceptive Adware Downloads

Zango, Inc., formerly known as 180solutions, Inc., one of the world?s largest distributors of adware, and two principals have agreed to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that they used unfair and deceptive methods to download adware and obstruct consumers from removing it, in violation of federal law. The settlement bars future downloads of Zango?s adware without consumers? consent, requires Zango to provide a way for consumers to remove the adware, and requires them to give up $3 million in ill-gotten gains.

"Consumers' computers belong to them, and they shouldn't have to accept any content they don?t want," said Lydia Parnes, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "If consumers choose to receive pop-up ads, so be it. But it violates federal law to secretly install software that forces consumers to get pop-ups that disrupt their computer use."

According to the FTC, Zango often used third parties to install adware on consumers? computers. The adware, including programs named Zango Search Assistant, 180Search Assistant, Seekmo, and n-CASE, monitors consumers? Internet use in order to display targeted pop-up ads. It has been installed on U.S. consumers? computers more than 70 million times and has displayed more than 6.9 billion pop-up ads. The FTC alleges that Zango?s distributors ? third-party affiliates who often contracted with numerous sub-affiliates ? frequently offered consumers free content and software, such as screensavers, peer-to-peer file sharing software, games, and utilities, without disclosing that downloading them would result in installation of the adware. In other instances, Zango?s third-party distributors exploited security vulnerabilities in Web browsers to install the adware via ?drive-by? downloads. As a result, millions of consumers received pop-up ads without knowing why, and had their Internet use monitored without their knowledge.

In addition, the agency alleges that Zango deliberately made it difficult to identify, locate, and remove the adware once it was installed. For example, Zango failed to label its pop-up ads to identify their origin, named its adware files with names resembling those of core systems
software, provided uninstall tools that failed to uninstall the adware, gave confusing labels to those uninstall tools, and installed code on consumers? computers that would enable the adware to be reinstalled secretly when consumers attempted to remove it.

The FTC charged that Zango?s failure to disclose that downloading the free content and software would result in installation of the adware was deceptive, and that its failure to provide
consumers with a reasonable and effective means to identify, locate, and remove the adware from their computers was unfair, in violation of the FTC Act.

The settlement bars Zango from using its adware to communicate with consumers? computers ? either by monitoring consumers? Web surfing activities or delivering pop-up ads ?
without verifying that consumers consented to installation of the adware. It bars Zango, directly or through others, from exploiting security vulnerabilities to download software, and requires that it give clear and prominent disclosures and obtain consumers? express consent before downloading software onto consumers? computers. It requires that Zango identify its ads and establish, implement, and maintain user-friendly mechanisms consumers can use to complain, stop its pop-ups, and uninstall its adware. It also requires that Zango monitor its third-party distributors to assure that its affiliates and their sub-affiliates comply with the FTC order. Finally, Zango will give up $3 million in ill-gotten gains to settle the charges. The settlement contains standard record keeping provisions to allow the FTC to monitor compliance.

The FTC complaint named Zango, Inc., formerly known as 180solutions, Inc., and its principals, Keith Smith and Daniel Todd. They are based in Bellevue, Washington.

The Commission vote to accept the proposed consent agreement was 5-0. The FTC will publish an announcement regarding the agreement in the Federal Register shortly. The agreement will be subject to public comment for 30 days, beginning today and continuing through December 5, after which the Commission will decide whether to make it final. Comments should be addressed to the FTC, Office of the Secretary, Room H-135, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC is requesting that any comment filed in paper form near the end of the public comment period be sent by courier or overnight service, if possible, because U.S. postal mail in the Washington area and at the Commission is subject to delay due to heightened security precautions.



Now the next steps will be to go after the advertisers that support adware firms.

Go to - clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3623872
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Was checking my stats on one of my domains that has "webcams" in it. And yep.. There's the Zango tool bar user agent... You can be sure I will never promote cams, aff or any products those companies EVER have.
So why don't you have a script that detects the user agent.. if its not zango.. then show aff.. if it is zango.. show somthing that zango can't alter?

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Will be interesting how this all pans out in the long run.
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until some of the big guys pull their traffic from their old friend lars, lars isn't going to do jack shit for the little affiliates that are doing the complaining.
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yep, he is laughing at people right now
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they're way too big to be affected by losing one affiliate, no matter how big
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Check out my program, I pay $40 per $1 trial join and NO Zango, No shave , No BS
The redesigned Cheating Wife Dating site I have is doing very well. Hit me up I cant take any email traffic, but other than that I am ready to make you money.
How long have you been in this industry for?
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The FTC is all over this....

For Release: November 3, 2006

Zango, Inc. Settles FTC Charges

Will Give Up $3 Million in Ill-Gotten Gains for Unfair and Deceptive Adware Downloads

Zango, Inc., formerly known as 180solutions, Inc., one of the world?s largest distributors of adware, and two principals have agreed to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that they used unfair and deceptive methods to download adware and obstruct consumers from removing it, in violation of federal law. The settlement bars future downloads of Zango?s adware without consumers? consent, requires Zango to provide a way for consumers to remove the adware, and requires them to give up $3 million in ill-gotten gains.

"Consumers' computers belong to them, and they shouldn't have to accept any content they don?t want," said Lydia Parnes, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "If consumers choose to receive pop-up ads, so be it. But it violates federal law to secretly install software that forces consumers to get pop-ups that disrupt their computer use."

According to the FTC, Zango often used third parties to install adware on consumers? computers. The adware, including programs named Zango Search Assistant, 180Search Assistant, Seekmo, and n-CASE, monitors consumers? Internet use in order to display targeted pop-up ads. It has been installed on U.S. consumers? computers more than 70 million times and has displayed more than 6.9 billion pop-up ads. The FTC alleges that Zango?s distributors ? third-party affiliates who often contracted with numerous sub-affiliates ? frequently offered consumers free content and software, such as screensavers, peer-to-peer file sharing software, games, and utilities, without disclosing that downloading them would result in installation of the adware. In other instances, Zango?s third-party distributors exploited security vulnerabilities in Web browsers to install the adware via ?drive-by? downloads. As a result, millions of consumers received pop-up ads without knowing why, and had their Internet use monitored without their knowledge.

In addition, the agency alleges that Zango deliberately made it difficult to identify, locate, and remove the adware once it was installed. For example, Zango failed to label its pop-up ads to identify their origin, named its adware files with names resembling those of core systems
software, provided uninstall tools that failed to uninstall the adware, gave confusing labels to those uninstall tools, and installed code on consumers? computers that would enable the adware to be reinstalled secretly when consumers attempted to remove it.

The FTC charged that Zango?s failure to disclose that downloading the free content and software would result in installation of the adware was deceptive, and that its failure to provide
consumers with a reasonable and effective means to identify, locate, and remove the adware from their computers was unfair, in violation of the FTC Act.

The settlement bars Zango from using its adware to communicate with consumers? computers ? either by monitoring consumers? Web surfing activities or delivering pop-up ads ?
without verifying that consumers consented to installation of the adware. It bars Zango, directly or through others, from exploiting security vulnerabilities to download software, and requires that it give clear and prominent disclosures and obtain consumers? express consent before downloading software onto consumers? computers. It requires that Zango identify its ads and establish, implement, and maintain user-friendly mechanisms consumers can use to complain, stop its pop-ups, and uninstall its adware. It also requires that Zango monitor its third-party distributors to assure that its affiliates and their sub-affiliates comply with the FTC order. Finally, Zango will give up $3 million in ill-gotten gains to settle the charges. The settlement contains standard record keeping provisions to allow the FTC to monitor compliance.

The FTC complaint named Zango, Inc., formerly known as 180solutions, Inc., and its principals, Keith Smith and Daniel Todd. They are based in Bellevue, Washington.

The Commission vote to accept the proposed consent agreement was 5-0. The FTC will publish an announcement regarding the agreement in the Federal Register shortly. The agreement will be subject to public comment for 30 days, beginning today and continuing through December 5, after which the Commission will decide whether to make it final. Comments should be addressed to the FTC, Office of the Secretary, Room H-135, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC is requesting that any comment filed in paper form near the end of the public comment period be sent by courier or overnight service, if possible, because U.S. postal mail in the Washington area and at the Commission is subject to delay due to heightened security precautions.



Now the next steps will be to go after the advertisers that support adware firms.

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