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Old 10-31-2006, 06:52 PM   #1
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:stoned Man holding flipflop Shot 81 times by cops (video)

http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html

Thats some crazy shit.. gotta kinda feel bad for everyone involved here..

The guy threatned to shoot the cops and the cop dog if they tried to get him so i can understand the cops being worried and perhaps jumping the gun a bit, then again he didnt point anything at them and it ended up not being a gun..

I like how at the end the cops are searching for a gun and when they realise he didnt have a gun he says " stop taping " lol too late..
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:54 PM   #2
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they also managed to shoot the cop dog several times it looks like. not sure if they counted those shots..
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:58 PM   #4
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How are they supposed to know? Fucking dumbass deserved to be shot.
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good thing he wasn't wearing uggs they woulda called in for a 500lb laser quided bomb........
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How are they supposed to know? Fucking dumbass deserved to be shot.
exactly .. but i always wonder why they dont just use tranquilizers, pull back and sniper his ass with a tranq gun then make him do some time in a proper prison ( ie they make them work ) clean up all the trash on the sides of roads.. anything..
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exactly .. but i always wonder why they dont just use tranquilizers, pull back and sniper his ass with a tranq gun then make him do some time in a proper prison ( ie they make them work ) clean up all the trash on the sides of roads.. anything..
ok... you have a tranquilizer gun and i have a baretta 9mm behind my back with 17 rounds. we both draw on each other... who wins, who loses?

care to guess?
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ok... you have a tranquilizer gun and i have a baretta 9mm behind my back with 17 rounds. we both draw on each other... who wins, who loses?

care to guess?
Which is why he specifically said sniper so that the target in question will not / can not have a shot at the shooter of the tranq gun. But yeah in a hostage situation it would be pretty daring as he would have plenty of time to kill hostages if he wished.
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ok... you have a tranquilizer gun and i have a baretta 9mm behind my back with 17 rounds. we both draw on each other... who wins, who loses?

care to guess?
he didnt draw , and neither would i with a sniper rifle i would be on a rooftop blocks away..

If a guy is pointing his weapon at you is one thing , but standoff's are another.. they can simply pull back
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exactly .. but i always wonder why they dont just use tranquilizers, pull back and sniper his ass with a tranq gun then make him do some time in a proper prison ( ie they make them work ) clean up all the trash on the sides of roads.. anything..
Maybe because tranquilizers aren't instantaneous. He would have had time to shoot back.
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I can see how they had to shoot when he raised his hand with the flip flop in it ... If you listen you can hear one cops saying that only 1-2 of them were to shoot and who else opened fire .. seemed that they got a bit excited .
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Shit - speechless watching an upset idiot claiming to have a gun and wanting to see *somebody* - poss his g/f and baby and a load of cops with two yapping dogs and shouting verbal and upping the anti when he threatens to shoot the dog/s.

Presumably the folks on the ground would know far better than anyone would simply from viewing that video, - but that looks like one massive utter fuckup all round - including the activity after the shooting.

Unfuckingbelievable - and something I'm 100% sure a couple of law friends would cringe watching - if only for it's sheer amateurish.
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exactly .. but i always wonder why they dont just use tranquilizers, pull back and sniper his ass with a tranq gun then make him do some time in a proper prison ( ie they make them work ) clean up all the trash on the sides of roads.. anything..
Its a great thought, but, take into consideration. First off, the tranq, like the tazer could kill him. if he is on drugs, or is just allergic. Then they consider the cost of the training to have an officer that is a sniper, on each shift, and available in the city. the cost of the weapon, and the tranq it's self. Then they think about the cost of 81 rounds.

You see the outcome.

And they shot, because they had "REASON TO BELIEVRE" based on his statments that are on tape, that he has a 13 shot weapon. And that he WOULD shoot a cop.
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Now I know why the get experienced people to track down and bring possible armed perps in when they skip jails. Rarely are any shot.

One govt officer had five on a list to track down for "collection". Saw their rap sheets - serious offenses ranging from murders to armed assaults on officers in the past. Four were back in custody within .. think about 11 days of tracking em down. The fifth was detained meantime by others before she had the time to get to him. Only "injury" was a minor knife cut incurred while one recovered too early from his initial "put down".

The difference in comparison to that tape is amazing and has more to do with "people management" than much else.
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damn.... they shot everything to shit, the fact that the cops shot their own dog is really fucked up. The dumbass had it coming but this could have been solved better then this amateuristic shit. Why dont they let 1 man who can aim shoot the guy with one or two shots? Very weird.
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damn.... they shot everything to shit, the fact that the cops shot their own dog is really fucked up. The dumbass had it coming but this could have been solved better then this amateuristic shit. Why dont they let 1 man who can aim shoot the guy with one or two shots? Very weird.
It's not fair to anticipate what others would do nico cos I just ain't qualified to say - but can very easily read what other folks (in law) would do. There would be no dogs. There would be a lot of what has been described as "hard listening" and "calmness". There would be no threats and no reason given for the target to threaten. Dunno.. there may be "firmness" at times, but calmly - and more often than not, the target will be pleased to give up and (almost funny) - have someone to talk to cos basically that's where they are coming from.
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Whoever the cop was that let the dog go should be fired immediately! What kind of trigger happy police department shoots their own dog? Totally fucked up and I hope this tape is used to show cops what NOT to do in this situation.
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ok... you have a tranquilizer gun and i have a baretta 9mm behind my back with 17 rounds. we both draw on each other... who wins, who loses?

care to guess?
They should be prepared for that sort of a stand-off. Sniper him, bean bag him, whatever they have to do... but no need to kill the guy.

I'm from Cincinnati. Last I checked we had the higest number of white cops killing unarmed black men in the entire country. Not sure if we stll hold that title as of today but our cops are trigger happy and shoot anything, including black men in the back as the run with no weapon.
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yeah that was fucking stupid all around. I can't believe how the cops handled the situation. I'm also extremely shocked they shot an officer. It's like they let the dog go to go in and get shot.
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I'm from Cincinnati. Last I checked we had the higest number of white cops killing unarmed black men in the entire country. Not sure if we stll hold that title as of today but our cops are trigger happy and shoot anything, including black men in the back as the run with no weapon.
I live in South Africa and we have the highest number of black criminals raping, torturing, and killing whites.


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They should be prepared for that sort of a stand-off. Sniper him, bean bag him, whatever they have to do... but no need to kill the guy.

i agree that its a little odd in the US that deadly force is usually the first and only option. from one side i think its perfectly justifiable to use lethal force when someone is threatening to kill cops... from another side, i think a civil society should always be searching for alternative means and this country more than most, has access to those alternative means.
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urggg, why did I post this?
Sure... Different scenario to the "domestic" in the vid Antonio. Folks embarking on violent assaults and killing sprees are gonna have to be firmly "downed" in whatever the best way possible with minimum risk to others - including officers.

The most recent (tho was 12-18 months ago now) of anything similar was an govt officer who was sprayed with auto fire along a highway. They never knew she was a govt officer but some folks thought it better this person was dead. She drove off as fast as possible and into a mall and headed to the rear (loading bay area) of the mall ahead of the pursuing vehicle to get as far as possible away from the public - then took up position behind a solid brick wall and ready for their arrival. Both got out of their car which left em in the open and one was shot in the leg (deliberately) and the other gave up else he would have little chance. The car had.. think 71 rounds fired into it - the nearest was a bullet lodged in the headrest area - amazing it was not fatal.
That cool girl got on the phone as soon as she got home and started talking about her cat. I knew she had "switched off" from an "incident" before she got round to talking about it

But agree - there are plenty violent people out there and they really need "subdued" in whatever way possible.
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im sure they dont always have a sniper rifle with a tranq at all times. the guy had it coming plain and simple. but to shoot the dog they should have got in trouble. why the fuck would they let the dog go then start shooting?
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I dont think the dog was air lifted anywhere he looked very dead. That guy said many times on the video he had a gun and was going to shoot. I think the adrenalin is high and it triggers a response in that situation. If they didnt shoot him and he killed a few cops. Would anyone be calling for his head. I feel worse for the dog, a loyal partner and was gunned down.
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i think you guys are forgetting stuff from that sociology class you took in community college. This is a black-man in compton, do you think the cops give a fuck about him? He was ready to die anyway. and it does suck for the dog, dumbass cops. they should have known a black-man in comptom cant afford a gun!
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Looks to me like he wanted to die.

The dog died.
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Yeah, it's a shame. The dog did die. Google turned up a lot more info on the subject.
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The police dog didn't pull through...
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People like that deserve to die they contribute nothing to society other than trouble.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:02 PM   #43
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Just curious - police don't use machine guns. How many officers do you think were shooting and what type of gun was used that could pump out 81 shots within a second?
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:05 PM   #44
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he didnt draw , and neither would i with a sniper rifle i would be on a rooftop blocks away..

If a guy is pointing his weapon at you is one thing , but standoff's are another.. they can simply pull back
I did not realize tranquilizer rifles had that kind of range.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:06 PM   #45
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I can see how they had to shoot when he raised his hand with the flip flop in it ... If you listen you can hear one cops saying that only 1-2 of them were to shoot and who else opened fire .. seemed that they got a bit excited .
maybe the sound synch was off but it appeared they all opened fire before he moved his hands , when they started firing he tossed the flipflop away
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:08 PM   #46
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I did not realize tranquilizer rifles had that kind of range.
i dont htink they do , but maybe they need to invent one , or even a normal sniper rifle , and shoot him i the leg or something.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:11 PM   #47
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Just curious - police don't use machine guns. How many officers do you think were shooting and what type of gun was used that could pump out 81 shots within a second?
Actually they do. Google the dipshit's name. The shots came from 3 officers AR-15 rifles which can be fully automatic. 80+ shots were fired, 22 hit the flip-flop wielding thug.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:12 PM   #48
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The police dog didn't pull through...
http://www.pww.org/article/view/7379/1/278/
that article sounds like complete bullshit. anyone who watched the video would know the story doesn't match up.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:19 PM   #49
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watched it, feel sorry for the dog and his handler. the guy got what he wanted.

it is one thing to bring a knife to a gunfight, but a shoe?
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:20 PM   #50
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Ask yourselves whos the fucking instigator in this situation??!!?! HUH? Oppose the fucking fascist police state they want it they'll fucking get it thank god this got on film. Innocent blood on their HANDS. I hope these officers got their careers handed to their asses to wipe thorooughly with.

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