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Old 11-13-2006, 11:58 PM   #101
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Thank you sir... Where were you when we shot adult content??? hehehehe Best o' luck!
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:00 AM   #102
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Funny, our script alone has produced more income than 6 years of shooting adult content
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:08 AM   #103
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content shooters/providers by and large are shit upon and taken for granted more than any other group of workers in the industry.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:11 AM   #104
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Funny, our script alone has produced more income than 6 years of shooting adult content
then why bother coming on to gfy if your doing so well?
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:22 AM   #105
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then why bother coming on to gfy if your doing so well?
Because it was time for this story to be told after a mutual friend had an issue with Lens as well. I wouldn't out his story here, but I can out my own and out the Coward that is Lensman.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:41 AM   #106
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:45 AM   #107
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So if you're such a hot shit and if Lensman is such a bad man, why had you waited for him for months, untill he finally told you to fuck off?
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:33 AM   #108
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MCP - for the record, based on my own personal experiences, I just want to let you know I believe you. Nobody can do anything to help you, but at least know there's someone out here who believes you. It took a lot of guts to post this. More than I ever would have been able to muster. Perhaps a person or two will learn from it. I doubt it, but one can hope.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:55 AM   #109
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Because it was time for this story to be told after a mutual friend had an issue with Lens as well. I wouldn't out his story here, but I can out my own and out the Coward that is Lensman.
Hmmm...since Lensman has posted in other threads tonight, and I would expect at least one person to call/ICQ him regarding this thread, his lack of response speaks volumes, especially as he has been called out by others as well (ErosWebMaster and his holiness Donny Christ).

I'm not taking any side at this point, but at the very least I feel as if a honest response from Lensman is in order...

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Old 11-14-2006, 02:28 AM   #110
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content shooters/providers by and large are shit upon and taken for granted more than any other group of workers in the industry.
I assume you've never been a designer?
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:34 AM   #111
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content shooters/providers by and large are shit upon and taken for granted more than any other group of workers in the industry.
Next to talent, I would say you are about right...

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Old 11-14-2006, 02:47 AM   #112
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I assume you've never been a designer?

sure have - and being a designer is a walk in the park compared to being a content producer. design business has its stresses too, every job does but in this industry i'd say the content producer is the least appreciated and rewarded for his contribtution when you consider without him there is no porn industry.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:48 AM   #113
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So first Steve Lightspeed gets laughed at for the Jordan Capri sex tape farce, then Lars becomes Legendary Liar, now this.

Cor blimey guv'nor, keep em coming.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:02 AM   #114
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FUCK... i was late to place my sig in this thread. im glad to see gfy hasnt closed or deleted this thread.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:24 AM   #115
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Cannot comment as i know neither party ..but this industry is unlike any other for B/S, liars, cowards and people who camnnot tell you face to face

VERY similar thing happened to us.... took us a while to recover as we stupidly put all our eggs in one basket but we are so glad how things turned out for us over the latter part of the year as we are doing better than we had hoped.. maybe we should be glad but we will never make the same mistake again....
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:26 AM   #116
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So if you're such a hot shit and if Lensman is such a bad man, why had you waited for him for months, untill he finally told you to fuck off?
Because you never believe people will treat you like that....if your a good person yourself
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:44 AM   #117
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:44 AM   #118
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Your post was quite long, so let me see if I translated it right:

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We are bad at business. We move out to a new city without any contract and sit on our thumbs waiting for our only potential client to call and give us business. When he did, we had a death in the family and expected every business to cease all their plans and wait till we were ready to start producing content again. When this company didn't care about our personal problems and only cared about their own families, employees, affiliates, etc and dropped us, we were left with nothing. Now we are crying on GFY and making up stories about cable TV shows to boost what little self esteem we have left.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:46 AM   #119
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Donny...are you saying Lens fucked YOU over too??

spill the beans!!
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FUCK... i was late to place my sig in this thread. im glad to see gfy hasnt closed or deleted this thread.
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MCP - for the record, based on my own personal experiences, I just want to let you know I believe you. Nobody can do anything to help you, but at least know there's someone out here who believes you. It took a lot of guts to post this. More than I ever would have been able to muster.
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It took a lot of guts to post this. More than I ever would have been able to muster.


..and so the gutless turn to religion and rape the sheep for a living...or worse still, sell cars...

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Old 11-14-2006, 06:43 AM   #123
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Donny...are you saying Lens fucked YOU over too??

spill the beans!!
He seems too chicken shit to do that, lest he possibly disrupt a good source of income/support...nonethless he blogs:

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Since Thursday, Belinda has been in Los Angeles at an adult industry convention known as Webmaster Access West. Industry conventions are great places to network and acquire new business, but the highlights of these conventions and the reason so many people attend are the elaborate parties that continue until 4am each day. This particular event culminates in the mother of all parties: a night at the Playboy Mansion for those lucky enough to receive an invitation.

It saddens me that Belinda's there, surrounded by people who pretend to be her friend while speaking face to face or while intoxicated, yet don't really give a crap about her at any other time. The two of us have attended numerous conventions all over the country. That after-party letdown still exists while together, but it's dulled by being there with someone who loves you.

This time she's there alone, with nobody to truly care about her when the party subsides. She's called a few times and admitted to feeling depressed anytime there's "nothing going on".

I emailed her a few days ago:

All of those "fun" things are temporary fulfillments of permanent problems. I know you have a hard time understanding why I'd give everything up to follow something I ridiculed for so long. What you don't know is that Jesus fills that void for me. Once I surrendered myself to him he became so real. Up until the point of surrender it's impossible to realize how nice it is to just accept him. It's really a warm feeling inside. Even on bad days, it feels good to be free of the business.

She's been attending "after parties" in the suite of one of Playboy's Vice Presidents. I went on to write:

It's so "great" to hang out with the bigwigs from Playboy but none of those people truly care about you, and you'll hardly cross their mind until you meet them again at the next show or send them a content package. Think about this for a minute: a bit of attention from them, a handshake and a few hours of hanging out drinking buys them your devotion for the rest of the year.

They don't have to recruit the models and feel the guilt when daddies no longer want to speak with their daughters, because we do that for them. They're insulated from the human toll it takes for them to make a living. They buy that insulation from you and I with a few thousand dollars per model and a handshake at a show.

I doubt they'd have the back bone to take a phone call from a crying girl.
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So what exactly does my SIG have to do with this thread???

I mean I am pissed that those comments were made about my sig if the images in the link in my sig really offend you that bad and made you want to do what you just did then you should have never clicked it I guess I should warn people that theres a shitload of money in my sig

there happy now
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He seems too chicken shit to do that, lest he possibly disrupt a good source of income/support...nonethless he blogs:
That's a creepy blog post. The whole "they don't truly care about you like I do" line has been used to control people forever. I know a few guys who used to use that regularly when their girlfriend would start hanging with a new crowd that made them feel insecure.

But the creepiest part is how religion can seemingly turn a business convention into this horrible place where everyone is fake, no one cares about you, and you enter the worst annals of the human soul. It's a fucking business convention.....you get drunk, talk some business, make some money, and go home.
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LOL funny thing...Adult.Com was one of the most difficult clients to get money from.

I remember all the bs emails I would get.

Email 1 would be my standard invoice with methods of payment.

Response: "Send us an invoice"

Email 2: *my response* Here is the invoice you requested including all methods of payment, and information required to make payment.

Response: "What methods of payment do you accept?"

Email 3: "We accept blah blah blah blah blah as methods of payment..." of course I included mailing addresses for checks etc.

Response: "Did you even do the galleries?"

Email 4: "Yes you posted them on GFY."

Finally a payment came...people couldn't believe it when I showed them the emails and responses that came from Joe...and then people wonder why designers don't last long in this biz.
Goddamn I thought I was having a Dejavu there for a second Cary. My personal favorite..."You mean you haven't been paid yet? I am going to have to go kick accounting in the butt...it'll be there in a couple days"

a week later...same reply. I swore off Adult.com forever after my dealings with them and "the crew". Loryn was very courteous and gracious on the phone, but that doesn't pay my bills. Luckily, I am with a good outfit now that pays me on time...every time.
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Hmmm...since Lensman has posted in other threads tonight, and I would expect at least one person to call/ICQ him regarding this thread, his lack of response speaks volumes, especially as he has been called out by others as well (ErosWebMaster and his holiness Donny Christ).

I'm not taking any side at this point, but at the very least I feel as if a honest response from Lensman is in order...

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Old 11-14-2006, 08:33 AM   #128
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So if you're such a hot shit and if Lensman is such a bad man, why had you waited for him for months, untill he finally told you to fuck off?
FOR THE RECORD!!!! He never told us to fuck off!!! On the contrary... He just decided against a serious decision without informing us after we had already made plans! ANd families and businesses were informed... Hot Shit??? Not really... Rescourceful. We Adapt, Overcome, and Improvise... And LENSMAN was the only client at the TIME.... He wasn't the only client EVER..... We cancelled contracts with others to make this move... And after 1 year of solid good, mutually beneficial relations, how would we even know he'd fuck us like this. NO YOU KISS ASSES, MY personal Problem of losing a Child after carrying 8 months did stop us from producing, but we all felt that this particular issue deserved @ least a 30 day sebatical.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:36 AM   #129
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Your post was quite long, so let me see if I translated it right:



Let me know if I left something out.
Yeah, you're a Moron who can't read. And wait until fall, you'll eat you're hat for sure....
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Donny...are you saying Lens fucked YOU over too??

spill the beans!!
No, I am not saying Lensman fucked me over.
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No, I am not saying Lensman fucked me over.

Oh no! The christian boy said "fucked"! God will smote you!
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No, I am not saying Lensman fucked me over.
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I think you mean "smite".

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That's a creepy blog post. The whole "they don't truly care about you like I do" line has been used to control people forever. I know a few guys who used to use that regularly when their girlfriend would start hanging with a new crowd that made them feel insecure.

But the creepiest part is how religion can seemingly turn a business convention into this horrible place where everyone is fake, no one cares about you, and you enter the worst annals of the human soul. It's a fucking business convention.....you get drunk, talk some business, make some money, and go home.
i thought the same thing - doesnt matter if its playboy or genral motors convention, its all the same.

one fact of life is that nobody gives a fuck about you so you better give a fuck about youreself if your going to survive.
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Donny's post made me laugh. You know, in that sort of uncomfortable, "oh, shit he's totally lost his fucking mind" kindda way.
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