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Old 11-16-2006, 10:28 AM   #1
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Money Makers - Galleries Vs. Free Sites

For the people who own free sites, and for the people that bang out numerous galleries per day.. Which do you find more efficient to make money.

Obviously the fact that free sites only have the traffic you supply to them so that only gives you that leverage to turn ratios for sales. But when you are pushing a few different galleries a day and submitting 2-3 or 5 a day we are talking loads of traffic. Then you have your galleries loaded on other sites bc some sites don't have submitters. So lets talk about the positives and negatives about making galleries Vs. owning free sites.

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Old 11-16-2006, 10:33 AM   #2
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only thing I could say about either is that a free site is more perm traffic and dependable source of income.. unlike galleries that has 400k of traffic 1 day and 30k if you stop for a few days.

sales wise thou, I would consider them pretty equal.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:35 AM   #3
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Free sites do better if you don't have too much cash
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:37 AM   #4
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Yeah, free sites, but gallery can get huge traffic really fast
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:42 AM   #5
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free sites for se traffic, galleries for tgp traffic
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:46 AM   #6
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But you have to understand any respectable movie site today is looking to trade 500+. If you are starting out and have no icq's with owners of high volume traffic to set you up real quick you are shit out of luck. Most free sites only want to trade with established sites that have been online for more then a year.

Movie site traffic isnt easy to maintain or obtain. The thing is you can go and buy tons of feeder traffic but it sucks!! Prod level super low so you are wasting funds. With galleries, if you are putting out more then 2 different galleries a day and submitting them to 25-50 sites.. and obviously the hardcore submitters submit to over 200 sites a day.. We are talking serious traffic!! Depending on the quality and niche of content shit will convert.. well it should. i remember 5-7 years ago i was converting bangbros 1:20.. shit was bonkers.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:47 AM   #7
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Freesites converts much better than galls.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:10 AM   #8
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Nice thread !!
Nowadays you have to pay for being a Trusted Submitter in many Tgp`s so my guess is, if you dont have any money start with FreeSites then buy a good autosubmitter, add as many Tgp`s you can, and start sending galleries.
I read somewhere that now only 10-20% traffic is really free on galleries.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:16 AM   #9
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Yeah, free sites, but gallery can get huge traffic really fast
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:17 AM   #10
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Nice thread !!
only 10-20% traffic is really free on galleries.
What do you mean its freally free?

But what i was saying is that if your post gets lets say 10k daily.. The galleries can get soooo much more traffic then that. If you paid for a few partner accounts you can have within a week over a million hits per day going to your galleries.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:19 AM   #11
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Correct.

Yes they can get huge but sooo much invested time.. Staying up 24/7 just to speak to a webmaster that is totally of your time zone to set up a trade. But traffic goes up and down like stocks. If you don't update for 1 day you are already seeing decrease in bookmarks and productivity. And again its hard keeping trades going if you run out of feeder traffic.. Feeder traffic is not showing high prod.. So automatically you can get dropped from a few trades. Its better to have high prod and lower traffic.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:58 AM   #12
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The freesites most people are talking about here are ones that you submit to linklists.
Blake, you seem to be thinking more along the lines of freesites like tgps which require you to setup trades and monitor the traffic.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:17 PM   #13
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The freesites most people are talking about here are ones that you submit to linklists.
Blake, you seem to be thinking more along the lines of freesites like tgps which require you to setup trades and monitor the traffic.
FoSho my friend. TGP's and MGP's.. I am not into link sites.. toplists.. they are waste of time. Sites with bookmarks and quality prod trades is whats good.
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