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BusterBunny · 11-29-2006, 02:24 AM

i tell them "fiddy biatch"

8ball · 11-29-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneMidget

Further education is great for people that can't comprehend a world without "normal" structure. They need the classroom, the lectures, the text books. I feel education is fine the way it is to give a majority of population a decent education. It's ok, but not great. Somewhat like public transportation. It gets the job done, but it's not great.

Here is a good read for people against the typical path of school and dead end job.

I actually think a combo of self learning and college are probably the best paths to take. I only have high school and have enjoyed my route.

That's a great article, thanks for the link

Sexsitesurfer · 11-29-2006, 02:35 AM

Well... maybe it is better to ask "Would/do you send your children to college?"

I went and I will send children if I have them.

I think it may be a bit different outside the US, I certainly know there is a big difference between the Hungarian and British systems educationally, but all have merits.

Sarah_Jayne · 11-29-2006, 02:35 AM

it isn't true but no more annoying that have some sort of vendetta to bring down those that have gone to university and try to invalidate their efforts

marko13 · 11-29-2006, 03:00 AM

go fuck yourself...

sacX · 11-29-2006, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

I have four lots of letters after my name, which I NEVER use I might add.

Higher education does not make a person.

2c

interesting.. I'd venture that u do use it, even if it's not obvious. I've done a fair bit of study in a totally unrelated field, and although I don't really use any of the *facts* I think a lot of my mindset is shaped by my years studying.

xato · 11-29-2006, 03:18 AM

most of the richest people i know (and i mean really super uber rich) dont have one.
some of them are even dyslexic.

go figure

gecko · 11-29-2006, 03:40 AM

depends how you use it, and how lucky you are.. most use it as toilet paper ;)

darksoul · 11-29-2006, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Look at Bill Gates, harvard drop out.
WG

Not only that
but 4 out of the first 10 richest men in the world
dropped school.

Heres the speech of Oracle's owner

Quote:

"Graduates of Yale University, I apologize if you have endured this type of prologue before, but I want you to do something for me. Please, take a good look around you. Look at the classmate on your left. Look at the classmate on your right. Now, consider this: five years from now, 10 years from now, even 30 thirty years from now, odds are the person on your left is going to be a loser. The person on your right, meanwhile, will also be a loser. And you, in the middle? What can you expect? Loser. Loserhood. Loser Cum Laude. In fact, as I look out before me today, I don't see a thousand hopes for a bright tomorrow. I don't see a thousand future leaders in a thousand industries. I see a thousand losers. You're upset. That's understandable. After all, how can I, Lawrence "Larry" Ellison, college dropout, have the audacity to spout such heresy to the graduating class of one of the nation's most prestigious institutions? I'll tell you why. Because I, Lawrence "Larry" Ellison, second richest man on the planet, am a college dropout, and you are not. Because Bill Gates, richest man on the planet-for now anyway-is a college dropout, and you are not. Because Paul Allen, the third richest man on the planet, dropped out of college, and you did not. And for good measure, because Michael Dell, No. 9 on the list and moving up fast, is a college dropout, and you, yet again, are not. Hmm ... you're very upset. That's understandable. So let me stroke your egos for a moment by pointing out, quite sincerely, that your diplomas were not attained in vain. Most of you, I imagine, have spent four to five years here, and in many ways what you've learned and endured will serve you well in the years ahead. You've established good work habits. You've established a network of people that will help you down the road. And you've established what will be lifelong relationships with the word "therapy." All that of is good. For in truth, you will need that network. You will need those strong work habits. You will need that therapy. You will need them because you didn't drop out, and so you will never be among the richest people in the world. Oh sure, you may, perhaps, work your way up to #10 or #11, like Steve Ballmer. But then,I don't have to tell you who he really works for, do I? And for the record, he dropped out of grad school. Bit of a late bloomer. Finally, I realize that many of you, and hopefully by now most of you,are wondering, "Is there anything I can do? Is there any hope for me at all?" Actually, no. It's too late. You've absorbed too much, think you know too much. You're not 19 anymore. You have a built-in cap, and I'm not referring to the mortarboards on your heads. Hmm ... you're really very upset. That's understandable. So perhaps this would be a good time to bring up the silver lining. Not for you, Class of '00. You are a write-off, so I'll let you slink off to your pathetic $200,000-a-year jobs, where your checks will be signed by former classmates who dropped out two years ago. Instead, I want to give hope to any underclassmen here today. I say to you, and I can't stress this enough: LEAVE. Pack your things and your ideas and don't come back. Drop out. Start up. For I can tell you that a cap and gown will keep you down just as surely as these security guards dragging me off this stage are keeping me dow..."

Bozena X · 11-29-2006, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

Not only that
but 4 out of the first 10 richest men in the world
dropped school.

Heres the speech of Oracle's owner

that is fantastic hahaha. Quite a funny read.

jasminexxx · 11-29-2006, 06:22 AM

i would say "gfy"

sweetcuties · 11-29-2006, 06:27 AM

happy I finished... sure, I'm not "using" it but in some ways I am. It's something to be proud of and it looks great on the wall. It's a feeling of accomplishment! Plus, if you end up with a girl who has one or even a Masters, it's a different circle all together. Something $$ can't buy and I realize that the older I get

BlackCrayon · 11-29-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties

Plus, if you end up with a girl who has one or even a Masters, it's a different circle all together. Something $$ can't buy and I realize that the older I get

yeah, a bunch of snobby ass bastards who think they know more and are better than everyone else because they can reguritate a bunch of shit shoved down their throats by even bigger bullshitters than themselves. oh, and money can buy an education.

maxcarter101 · 11-29-2006, 07:17 AM

My gf has two degrees, but is smart. She ain't no McDonalds worker, she's a lawyer earning 200k a yr and will be a judge one day. She gets a lot out of helping others.

viva celebs · 11-29-2006, 07:27 AM

i would say blow me, i'm half way there to getting mine now

sweetcuties · 11-29-2006, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yeah, a bunch of snobby ass bastards who think they know more and are better than everyone else because they can reguritate a bunch of shit shoved down their throats by even bigger bullshitters than themselves. oh, and money can buy an education.

lol, Why the hostitality? Why is it that people who don't have degrees are so defensive when it comes to this question?

Trust me, I'm not the smartest guy around (understatment) and I dropped out twice before going back and finishing. My point is not everyone is gonna be Gates and to say to the average person out there that college doesn't prepared you for life or give you advantages is fooling themselves! Not everyone wants to be self employed! Most want to be sheep and that's fine, doesn't bother me. To that random person, they need a degree to get ahead in the non-gfy world.

TBrown · 11-29-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

look at the stats - sure there ARE uneducated people who make large cash - but they are the EXCEPTION - NOT the rule. Most uneducated people who make large cash will tell you this as well and wish they had more education.

if you believe in numbers - you WILL make more money with a college degree - the more education you have the more money you will make. - assuming you eventually APPLY it somehow

those ARE the facts

That's right...

Tom_PM · 11-29-2006, 07:44 AM

Maybe I'd say
"Oh sure, and I suppose now you're going to tell me that I need a highschool diploma too."

ADL Colin · 11-29-2006, 07:47 AM

Of course, it is a false statement. You don't need a college degree to be successful.

Most people would be better off with the college degree than without it though.

Average Current Salary of alumni where I went to school:: $115,625

Maybe it would be higher if they skipped school but I bet not.

Simon IA Cash · 11-29-2006, 08:15 AM

Of course you can be successful without a college degree. But the question is kinda useless on its own. What kind of degree, and what standards of success? A computer science degree will make more money than an english literature degree, but you probably won't be able to write worth a shit when you're done. The question is whether you care.

People with degrees sometimes don't make money. People without degrees sometimes do. So what? Success comes from a lot of areas. Like luck. Makes people and breaks people. Like existing money. A rich kid with no degree but decent cash to invest can be do very well. Like hard work. You get a degree and sit on your ass, you won't be successful.

That being said, someone who has lots of money can certainly not be successful. Much as they're often equated, there's more to life than that, including knowledge. Learning doesn't have to be towards some practical end, filling your wallet. In university, if you study the right things, you learn how to think in different ways, and are forced to be incisive and critical with your thoughts and words. You manage intellectually heavy projects. You learn about past thinkers and pull what is relevant, and apply it to your thinking in your daily life, not just for money-raising tasks, although those refined abilities do come into play in most job situations. It just doesn't follow a "I learned X skill and now I can do Y job for $Z"

Oh, and going to college does help you get a partner. Better a classmate than a random person by the bar.

sweetcuties · 11-29-2006, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Of course you can be successful without a college degree. But the question is kinda useless on its own. What kind of degree, and what standards of success? A computer science degree will make more money than an english literature degree, but you probably won't be able to write worth a shit when you're done. The question is whether you care.

People with degrees sometimes don't make money. People without degrees sometimes do. So what? Success comes from a lot of areas. Like luck. Makes people and breaks people. Like existing money. A rich kid with no degree but decent cash to invest can be do very well. Like hard work. You get a degree and sit on your ass, you won't be successful.

That being said, someone who has lots of money can certainly not be successful. Much as they're often equated, there's more to life than that, including knowledge. Learning doesn't have to be towards some practical end, filling your wallet. In university, if you study the right things, you learn how to think in different ways, and are forced to be incisive and critical with your thoughts and words. You manage intellectually heavy projects. You learn about past thinkers and pull what is relevant, and apply it to your thinking in your daily life, not just for money-raising tasks, although those refined abilities do come into play in most job situations. It just doesn't follow a "I learned X skill and now I can do Y job for $Z"

Oh, and going to college does help you get a partner. Better a classmate than a random person by the bar.

excellent post

ADL Colin · 11-29-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

The question is whether you care.

Exactly. I went to college partly for the experience and partly to learn some cool shit. A degree has a forced structure (complete these credits) and you usually learn much more about a subject in greater detail than you would otherwise. You also get some useful guidance on how to improve at a subject.

BlackCrayon · 11-29-2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetcuties

lol, Why the hostitality? Why is it that people who don't have degrees are so defensive when it comes to this question?

Trust me, I'm not the smartest guy around (understatment) and I dropped out twice before going back and finishing. My point is not everyone is gonna be Gates and to say to the average person out there that college doesn't prepared you for life or give you advantages is fooling themselves! Not everyone wants to be self employed! Most want to be sheep and that's fine, doesn't bother me. To that random person, they need a degree to get ahead in the non-gfy world.

if you read my other post in this thread you'll see i agree that most people do need a college degree to get a good job. my hostilty comes from the the whole idea of 'different circles'. like people with degrees look at those who don't have one as racists would look at blacks or jews. they don't want to associate with them because they think they are not on the same level. i think people like that are ignorant fools despite all the education in the world.

salesman · 11-29-2006, 12:43 PM

some people have to go to school to learn to be successful and some can be successful without school.

E$_manager · 11-29-2006, 01:01 PM

I have University degree and noone will tell me that.

germ · 11-29-2006, 02:45 PM

i'd say "No...YOU can't. I'm fine."

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Of course, it is a false statement. You don't need a college degree to be successful. Most people would be better off with the college degree than without it though. Average Current Salary of alumni where I went to school:: $115,625 Maybe it would be higher if they skipped school but I bet not. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

11-29-2006, 08:15 AM	#70
Simon IA Cash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 126	Of course you can be successful without a college degree. But the question is kinda useless on its own. What kind of degree, and what standards of success? A computer science degree will make more money than an english literature degree, but you probably won't be able to write worth a shit when you're done. The question is whether you care. People with degrees sometimes don't make money. People without degrees sometimes do. So what? Success comes from a lot of areas. Like luck. Makes people and breaks people. Like existing money. A rich kid with no degree but decent cash to invest can be do very well. Like hard work. You get a degree and sit on your ass, you won't be successful. That being said, someone who has lots of money can certainly not be successful. Much as they're often equated, there's more to life than that, including knowledge. Learning doesn't have to be towards some practical end, filling your wallet. In university, if you study the right things, you learn how to think in different ways, and are forced to be incisive and critical with your thoughts and words. You manage intellectually heavy projects. You learn about past thinkers and pull what is relevant, and apply it to your thinking in your daily life, not just for money-raising tasks, although those refined abilities do come into play in most job situations. It just doesn't follow a "I learned X skill and now I can do Y job for $Z" Oh, and going to college does help you get a partner. Better a classmate than a random person by the bar. __________________ simon -at- iacash dot com icq: 231-421-229

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