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woj · 11-30-2006, 02:23 PM

100...........

tony286 · 11-30-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

The broadest answer is no. Spine is off limits.

Most people understand it's not Mortal Kombat, and SubZero isn't gonna pull your spine out. At least I hope.

You haven't learned the rip your spine out technique, its messy but amazing. Guarantee win every time

lol

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Z

This reminds me of the Steven Seagal challenge for a fight to the death with any martial artist in the world. He said it in a Black Belt magazine article when the martial arts world was saying he was a fake.

5 or 10 guys came back and took the challenge in the next month's issue, he never responded to any of them. That was the beginning of the end of his career.

Steven Segal also said he could NOT be choked out.

Gene Lebell said bullshit. Lebell or Judo Gene Lebell choked him out and Segal shit his pants on the movie set.

As from Gokor Chivichyan, is Gene's top student, who happens to be Karo Parisiyan's (UFC Fighter) Instructor told the following:

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According to Gokor this took place on the set of "Out for Justice" where Segal was using a Brooklin accent and did a stick fight w/Dan Inasanto-who also tels thsi story. Well Segal was being a dick to the stuntmen, but that is his normal behavior according to them. Well he is talking about how bad he is and the stuntment say "Yeah, well we got this old guy back here who could choke you out!" and Segal stated that nobody coulod get close to him to choke him out he also had never heard of Judo Gene LeBell before that encounter. Well Gene came over and said that he could choke him out and and Segal said that he couldn't so Gene grabbed him real quick and started to choke him. Segal tapped and said that that wasn't fair he was talking and wasn't ready for Gene. So Uncle Gene waited for Sega to get "ready" and when he said that he was Gene grabbed him and started to choke him out and Segal coudln't do nothing w/the old guy. Well Gene was pissed off because Segal was being very rough for no reason on the stunt guys when doing the fight scenes w/them and was upset becuase Segal said he wasn't ready and woul;dn't admit that Gene hooked him so as Uncle Gene would oput it "there is 2 ways to choke a person out, one way the ygo out nice and wake up ok, the other is they go out quick and they piss and crap on themselves" Gene did the latter! Then he drug Segal over to a closet and put hi in there uncouncious. When he came to everybody was cracking up and he went and changed his clothes and fired Gene and his guys. Gene has not worked on another Segal Movie since.

Also, When the Gracie's challenged Gene he stated that he would fight Helio and Helio stated that he would fight Gene, but Gene would have to lose 50lbs becuase he outweighed him by 100lbs and Helio was 80 at that time. Gene said he made the challenge back to them so they could see what it was like and it was dropped. Gene trains with the Gracie's cousins the Machado Brothers a couple of times a week. Gene mainley trains w/Jean Jacque Machado.

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

You haven't learned the rip your spine out technique, its messy but amazing. Guarantee win every time

lol

You gotta show me when you come down!

cheekycherry · 11-30-2006, 02:30 PM

The old man actually believed his lies. Were his students jumping around and falling on the floor for that long that he started to believe his own shit?

Crazy... The Karate guy DID do him and his students a favour by kicking his ass.

Aikido is a fuckin joke. I had some guy "biggin up" Tai Chi to me the other day. Some people are stupid.

dig420 · 11-30-2006, 02:32 PM

Lebell challenged 80 yr old Helio to teach the GRACIE FAMILY a lesson?

what a dick.

Also u know as well as I do that you can't predict what someone will do when they go out. Unconscious is unconscious.

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Lebell challenged 80 yr old Helio to teach the GRACIE FAMILY a lesson?

what a dick.

Also u know as well as I do that you can't predict what someone will do when they go out. Unconscious is unconscious.

Actually Bernie, I learned how to do that to people back when I used to bounce.

Once you get them in the rear naked, and they are about to pass out, you bend them foward so that their trunk is over their toes. It causes them to piss and shit themselves.

I've done it to someone with a full nelson, never got the chance too with a choke.

dig420 · 11-30-2006, 02:38 PM

well I never heard of it and I've seen about 3 dozen people pass out, more or less. I've only seen one shit his pants and that was when he was still conscious lol.. I don't remember the dude's name but the vid is somewhere on Glover's myspace page.

To his credit, he kept fighting!

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

well I never heard of it and I've seen about 3 dozen people pass out, more or less. I've only seen one shit his pants and that was when he was still conscious lol.. I don't remember the dude's name but the vid is somewhere on Glover's myspace page.

To his credit, he kept fighting!

Yuck.

I'd tap real quick.

dig420 · 11-30-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Yuck.

I'd tap real quick.

he stuck it out.

http://www.sumo.tv/video/69575 this is the guy, I don't remember his name but he trains at Cobra Kai in LV

johnny o · 11-30-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The no touch video has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever watched.

i concur

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

he stuck it out.

http://www.sumo.tv/video/69575 this is the guy, I don't remember his name but he trains at Cobra Kai in LV

Oh yeah, I remember this, it was everywhere. LOL

johnny o · 11-30-2006, 03:02 PM

and i SO thought the old guy was gonna open a can of whop-ass

BOSS1 · 11-30-2006, 03:10 PM

omg.... i cant belive my master is a fake

Michaelious · 11-30-2006, 03:11 PM

That looked absolutely amazing

dig420 · 11-30-2006, 03:21 PM

These pressure point, no touch, Kung Fu, ninja type instructors are basically cult leaders. The students believe them because they so badly WANT to believe them, and they basically get hypnotized. When they go down because of the 'chi force' they really do feel that shit and think they're being knocked on their ass. Try it against someone who isn't mentally conditioned to believe it's going to work, and it won't work. This is why it's absolutely crucial that you train in something that can be tested against a fully-resisting opponent. Otherwise you're just hypothesizing, and most of the time coming up with the wrong answers.

As most of us guys know, there's nothing that punctures your self-delusions quite like a sudden fist in the face.

C-Bass · 11-30-2006, 03:39 PM

i coulda kicked his ass too

Pleasurepays · 11-30-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

These pressure point, no touch, Kung Fu, ninja type instructors are basically cult leaders. The students believe them because they so badly WANT to believe them, and they basically get hypnotized. When they go down because of the 'chi force' they really do feel that shit and think they're being knocked on their ass. Try it against someone who isn't mentally conditioned to believe it's going to work, and it won't work. This is why it's absolutely crucial that you train in something that can be tested against a fully-resisting opponent. Otherwise you're just hypothesizing, and most of the time coming up with the wrong answers.

As most of us guys know, there's nothing that punctures your self-delusions quite like a sudden fist in the face.

for the first time probably, i fully agree with Dig420. i never gave much thought to the idea of it being like a cult, but thats a pretty good way to look at most martial arts schools in the USA.

my feeling is always the same... if you are truly training to fight... then you should have ZERO problem with stepping up to the plate and fighting, anywhere, anytime, against any opponent. afterall... thats what you are training to do.

if you can't do that... then all you are getting is exercise. if thats the case... then call it what is... exercise.

dunefield · 11-30-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

These debates are dumb. Its basically all a penis comparing contest that ultimately leads nowhere because anybody with half a brain knows that MMA fighters have the upper hand in no holds barred combat. But no they are not the ultimate evolution in fighting.

Don't bother... He's been slammed on his head too many times for the point to sink in...

connectz · 11-30-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

There is only one reason to study a Martial Art. It is to win fighting.

You've just announced you've never been in many actual fights. You suck the tit of this BJJ shit like it's the holy grail.

There's rednecks and n1ggers right now drinking at bars that would break any of these people's necks. For the last time, what happens behind a bar isnt' taped and there aren't any referees.

Mike Tyson wasn't even close to the best heavyweight to ever put on the gloves but if he would even score one shot against these dorks, they'd melt.

Give me a choice between a drunk beaner or one of these MMA faggots my size, I'll pick the MMA dork. Beaner's that can fight are like Roberto Duran's.They hit like a fucking mule. You wouldn't last five minutes in most of the bars I slum. Some redneck or n1gger would beat you to death.

This hero worship is fucking stupid.

dig420 · 11-30-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by connectz

You've just announced you've never been in many actual fights. You suck the tit of this BJJ shit like it's the holy grail.

There's rednecks and n1ggers right now drinking at bars that would break any of these people's necks. For the last time, what happens behind a bar isnt' taped and there aren't any referees.

Mike Tyson wasn't even close to the best heavyweight to ever put on the gloves but if he would even score one shot against these dorks, they'd melt.

Give me a choice between a drunk beaner or one of these MMA faggots my size, I'll pick the MMA dork. Beaner's that can fight are like Roberto Duran's.They hit like a fucking mule. You wouldn't last five minutes in most of the bars I slum. Some redneck or n1gger would beat you to death.

This hero worship is fucking stupid.

you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. So ignorant you don't know you're ignorant.

sickkittens · 11-30-2006, 09:02 PM

fucked that up

Anthony · 11-30-2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by connectz

You've just announced you've never been in many actual fights. You suck the tit of this BJJ shit like it's the holy grail.

There's rednecks and n1ggers right now drinking at bars that would break any of these people's necks. For the last time, what happens behind a bar isnt' taped and there aren't any referees.

Mike Tyson wasn't even close to the best heavyweight to ever put on the gloves but if he would even score one shot against these dorks, they'd melt.

Give me a choice between a drunk beaner or one of these MMA faggots my size, I'll pick the MMA dork. Beaner's that can fight are like Roberto Duran's.They hit like a fucking mule. You wouldn't last five minutes in most of the bars I slum. Some redneck or n1gger would beat you to death.

This hero worship is fucking stupid.

YAWN.

Nigga Please. I've bounced at bars in my early twenties, you are the one talking shit.

Look at who's doing the hero worship. Get off the beaner's nuts, it's embarrassing. You can find me at my MMA gym anytime, you wouldn't last very long there.

shadowdemon · 12-01-2006, 12:44 AM

nice to be back in here. hey anthony, still up to the challenge of showing a brown brother the town? wasn't able to go to FL when i was in the states. back in manila now, will kick some moslem extremists' butt when im back on duty down south some time december

Anthony · 12-01-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowdemon

nice to be back in here. hey anthony, still up to the challenge of showing a brown brother the town? wasn't able to go to FL when i was in the states. back in manila now, will kick some moslem extremists' butt when im back on duty down south some time december

You know it! Kick some ass and come home safe!

shadowdemon · 12-01-2006, 12:52 AM

i hate my job. it's not an easy pill to swallow when you put a bullet to another man's chest fully knowing he's a brave (though stupid) countryman of yours. gotta have another line of business. hmm.. think the adult business is ready for moslem women in their burkas?

travs · 12-01-2006, 01:20 AM

this is like the saying "it's not the size of the ship but the motion of the ocean"

so i guess it's not the martial art but on how you use it.

Major (Tom) · 12-01-2006, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Let me preface this by saying that the Aikido Kiai Master has this video where he's knocking out students left and right with a "NO TOUCH" fighting style.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tib2Urowsdc&NR

The Aikido Master also says he has a 200-0 wins MMA/Vale Tudo, and that he bets 5 grand he can beat any MMA fighter.

The beginning of this video has them signing the contracts. See what happens to Kiai Master Ryukerin

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bQeUkUO5ZPo

The opponent (Youger Guy) is a Karate Black Belt, and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu Purple Belt.

Here is another video page of the beat down, scroll down to bottom of page.

http://www.tanteifile.com/diary/2006...02/index2.html

Clearly that old guy was dislusional with that no hitting knock down stuff. He looked frail, and his first strike was more of a sissy slap with no control and played it of by moving his hand ala mr meyogi style. Clearly the younger guy was in much better shape and in my opinion, regardless of what the old man said about the 5k, he shouldnt have been in the same ring with that younger guy. Seriously, as sedentary as i am i think i could have lit that old man up.

mma is no match for other disciplines.. because it was created to combat all types of disciplines. Even bjj is kinda going by the way side. It's a must in your arsenal, but a pure bjj fighter usually gets rocked by an mma fighter, ergo, matt hughes and royce gracie.
I could be wrong ant, as I am just a fan and someone who has a better jaw than a right hook

Cheers bro
Duke

CyberHustler · 12-01-2006, 02:17 AM

lmao @ youtube comments

"No way the master would never lose to such kid.
You see the story is like this
They drug the master with pills that completely turns off his amazing power.
During the fight he was trying to wave his power at the kid, but it didn't have any effects.
Yes it was all a set up.
Another thing, the master have to pretend to lose and not do anything crazy power, because some of his student is held prisoner, if the master choose to show his ability, the student will die!"

Anthony · 12-01-2006, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Clearly that old guy was dislusional with that no hitting knock down stuff. He looked frail, and his first strike was more of a sissy slap with no control and played it of by moving his hand ala mr meyogi style. Clearly the younger guy was in much better shape and in my opinion, regardless of what the old man said about the 5k, he shouldnt have been in the same ring with that younger guy. Seriously, as sedentary as i am i think i could have lit that old man up.

mma is no match for other disciplines.. because it was created to combat all types of disciplines. Even bjj is kinda going by the way side. It's a must in your arsenal, but a pure bjj fighter usually gets rocked by an mma fighter, ergo, matt hughes and royce gracie.
I could be wrong ant, as I am just a fan and someone who has a better jaw than a right hook

Cheers bro
Duke

You are correct Bro, BJJ is no match by itself against MMA, but it is an integral part of it. As sad as I am to say it, Gracie Vs Hughes showed that a well rounded MMA fighter defeats BJJ easily.

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cheekycherry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 1,703	The old man actually believed his lies. Were his students jumping around and falling on the floor for that long that he started to believe his own shit? Crazy... The Karate guy DID do him and his students a favour by kicking his ass. Aikido is a fuckin joke. I had some guy "biggin up" Tai Chi to me the other day. Some people are stupid.

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dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Lebell challenged 80 yr old Helio to teach the GRACIE FAMILY a lesson? what a dick. Also u know as well as I do that you can't predict what someone will do when they go out. Unconscious is unconscious.

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dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	well I never heard of it and I've seen about 3 dozen people pass out, more or less. I've only seen one shit his pants and that was when he was still conscious lol.. I don't remember the dude's name but the vid is somewhere on Glover's myspace page. To his credit, he kept fighting!

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BOSS1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal / Sparta Posts: 4,331	omg.... i cant belive my master is a fake

11-30-2006, 03:21 PM	#116
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	These pressure point, no touch, Kung Fu, ninja type instructors are basically cult leaders. The students believe them because they so badly WANT to believe them, and they basically get hypnotized. When they go down because of the 'chi force' they really do feel that shit and think they're being knocked on their ass. Try it against someone who isn't mentally conditioned to believe it's going to work, and it won't work. This is why it's absolutely crucial that you train in something that can be tested against a fully-resisting opponent. Otherwise you're just hypothesizing, and most of the time coming up with the wrong answers. As most of us guys know, there's nothing that punctures your self-delusions quite like a sudden fist in the face.

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shadowdemon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: earth Posts: 16	nice to be back in here. hey anthony, still up to the challenge of showing a brown brother the town? wasn't able to go to FL when i was in the states. back in manila now, will kick some moslem extremists' butt when im back on duty down south some time december

12-01-2006, 12:52 AM	#126
shadowdemon Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: earth Posts: 16	i hate my job. it's not an easy pill to swallow when you put a bullet to another man's chest fully knowing he's a brave (though stupid) countryman of yours. gotta have another line of business. hmm.. think the adult business is ready for moslem women in their burkas?

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travs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,631	this is like the saying "it's not the size of the ship but the motion of the ocean" so i guess it's not the martial art but on how you use it.

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CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,180	lmao @ youtube comments "No way the master would never lose to such kid. You see the story is like this They drug the master with pills that completely turns off his amazing power. During the fight he was trying to wave his power at the kid, but it didn't have any effects. Yes it was all a set up. Another thing, the master have to pretend to lose and not do anything crazy power, because some of his student is held prisoner, if the master choose to show his ability, the student will die!"