when a credit card expires does the rebill also expire? - GoFuckYourself.com

surferbob · 12-15-2007, 05:12 PM

Hello all ... when a person gets a new visa card with same number but new expiry date will ccbill still be able to rebill.... been wondering if rebills die because of this... i have stats remote on the old expiry date so we will see what happens...i will report back...

who · 12-15-2007, 05:13 PM

Usually rebills are based on member, not on credit card, or am I wrong?

Iron Fist · 12-15-2007, 05:15 PM

Rebills continue... or else all those "seen on tv" ads selling late night crap.. would be buying everything on the last month of the card and then fucking off afterwards -- but that doesn't happen, because rebills continue.

woj · 12-15-2007, 05:17 PM

Rebill probably expires, new card has a different CVV, and so many billers wouldn't be able to bill that new card...

surferbob · 12-15-2007, 05:18 PM

most places need you to update the expiry date for them to bill ya... all my hosts billing area have an area to update expiry dates of the card... which let me to wonder if an old rebilling purchase with old expiry date ...will still go thru even tho the info was from 2 years ago (old card).

surferbob · 12-15-2007, 05:20 PM

i bet places like cc bill they continue but other companies probably not eh..

BigBen · 12-15-2007, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

Rebill probably expires, new card has a different CVV, and so many billers wouldn't be able to bill that new card...

CVV isn't stored and makes no difference on rebills.

Rebills will continue as long as the processor submits the transaction.

Dopy · 12-15-2007, 05:56 PM

Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

xxxice · 12-15-2007, 07:27 PM

I think once the new info is put in your rebill = gone

But maybe not ;-)

L-Pink · 12-15-2007, 07:33 PM

That's a lot of different answers.

bobby666 · 12-15-2007, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy

Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

same opinion here

69pornlinks · 12-15-2007, 11:25 PM

it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

rowan · 12-16-2007, 02:25 AM

ccbill has successfully rebilled a card of mine with details that had expired. I was told if it fails with a particular error, they add 2 years to the date and try again.

spunkmaster · 12-16-2007, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy

Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

Yes they can !

V/MC/Amex have programs to get the updated card info
without the customers involvement if the merchant signs up for it.

The transaction numbers have to be pretty high volume but it
saves millions !

PornDiscounts-R · 12-16-2007, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks

it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

Not sure how big a differens there is from country to country on this. I would say that rebills can`t continue. true, even with a new card you still get the same account number, but the card number changes. And it is that all billers use. New card = new cc number and no more rebill from what i know.

But way to many different answer here, will write ccbill and ask for sure to be 100% clear on this.

Calvinguy · 12-16-2007, 02:52 AM

Some people are really idiots

DeadFidel · 12-16-2007, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy

Some people are really idiots

"idiot" is the most used word here. Wonder why?

NOTE: The is no middle answer. When a CC expires the Rebills stop.

rowan · 12-16-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadFidel

"idiot" is the most used word here. Wonder why?

NOTE: The is no middle answer. When a CC expires the Rebills stop.

Care to explain ccbill rebilling my CC account when I'd been issued with a new expiry and CVV2?

DutchTeenCash · 12-16-2007, 03:19 AM

there is no one answer

most banks issue a new card same number different exp date and cvv

some banks issue a new card with a new number

obviously when the number changes the rebill expires

Los · 12-16-2007, 04:09 AM

from my experience if you have your own merchant you can try and run a cc without a cvv2 number and just add a couple years to the date and it will go thru.

Violetta · 12-16-2007, 05:34 AM

I guess it varies then

Emil · 12-16-2007, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks

it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

PornDiscounts-R · 12-16-2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

errrr wtf ???

After Shock Media · 12-16-2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil

Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

Thats just to damn wierd man.

My newly issued visa
4412 7842 6485 4751
02/09
419

Kind of odd only our exp. date, ccv2, and first 4 digits are only different.
I wonder how normal this really is

69pornlinks · 12-16-2007, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

there is no one answer

most banks issue a new card same number different exp date and cvv

some banks issue a new card with a new number

obviously when the number changes the rebill expires

....78909

tolik · 12-16-2007, 03:46 PM

very interesting question as for me.

madfuck · 12-16-2007, 03:49 PM

idk thats a good question tho

tolik · 12-16-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Thats just to damn wierd man.

My newly issued visa
4412 7842 6485 4751
02/09
419

Kind of odd only our exp. date, ccv2, and first 4 digits are only different.
I wonder how normal this really is

first 4 digits it are bank code in visa system as i remember ;)

Scootermuze · 12-16-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBen

CVV isn't stored and makes no difference on rebills.

Rebills will continue as long as the processor submits the transaction.

The expiration date changes, which makes some of the information stored invalid..

If they process the card upon rebilling, it won't be approved...

Been there..

Unless they pay no attention to the exp. date... which would be dangerous..

BlackCrayon · 12-16-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

ccbill has successfully rebilled a card of mine with details that had expired. I was told if it fails with a particular error, they add 2 years to the date and try again.

I had the same thing happen with ccbill.

Eyes_Without_A_Face · 12-16-2007, 05:24 PM

technicaly the rebill doesn't stop but the transaction is declined due to wrong data.

PS: emil, thanx for the 42" plasma

CDSmith · 12-16-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyes_Without_A_Face

PS: emil, thanx for the 42" plasma

Beat me to it.

tony286 · 12-16-2007, 06:47 PM

This is a good question, I figured when its expired it stops.

raven1083 · 12-16-2007, 06:59 PM

Banks issues new credit card with different expiration year.Obviously, the number changes the rebill does expired.

PaygeaGrl · 12-16-2007, 07:25 PM

In most cases, when a new card is issued with a new expiry date, an "issuer decline" code should come back from the bank.

The Sultan Of Smut · 12-17-2007, 01:47 AM

I've had a mastercard continue to rebill after expiration date was reached, don't know if visa will though.

mrthumbs · 12-17-2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy

Some people are really idiots

yeah... thats going through my mind reading the responses...

GreyWolf · 12-17-2007, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy

Some people are really idiots

Yea?

Gawd protect the real world from the level of GFY

J B · 12-17-2007, 03:07 AM

We started to use CCBill as a backup processor for StatsRemote in January 2004 and still have quite a few active rebills from that time, so I guess as long as your credit card number doesn't change, the rebills will go through.

GatorB · 12-17-2007, 03:17 AM

I'm 100% sure if I cancell my CC that no one can continue to re-bill me.

StarkReality · 12-17-2007, 03:46 AM

From my knowledge, the expired card is first declined by the biller, but usually a credit is issued. As soon as the guy updates his credit card information, the rebill cycle continues and you get the negative credit back, plus future rebills. If the member doesn't update his cc data, bad luck.

Walrus · 12-17-2007, 03:59 AM

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hateman · 12-17-2007, 04:10 AM

fuck rebills, gimme phat PPS

12-15-2007, 05:12 PM	#1
surferbob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: vancouver canada Posts: 108	when a credit card expires does the rebill also expire? Hello all ... when a person gets a new visa card with same number but new expiry date will ccbill still be able to rebill.... been wondering if rebills die because of this... i have stats remote on the old expiry date so we will see what happens...i will report back... __________________ Making a $$ with the help of these guys!

12-15-2007, 05:15 PM	#3
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Rebills continue... or else all those "seen on tv" ads selling late night crap.. would be buying everything on the last month of the card and then fucking off afterwards -- but that doesn't happen, because rebills continue. __________________ i like waffles

12-15-2007, 05:17 PM	#4
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12-15-2007, 05:18 PM	#5
surferbob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: vancouver canada Posts: 108	most places need you to update the expiry date for them to bill ya... all my hosts billing area have an area to update expiry dates of the card... which let me to wonder if an old rebilling purchase with old expiry date ...will still go thru even tho the info was from 2 years ago (old card). __________________ Making a $$ with the help of these guys!

12-15-2007, 05:20 PM	#6
surferbob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: vancouver canada Posts: 108	i bet places like cc bill they continue but other companies probably not eh.. __________________ Making a $$ with the help of these guys!

12-15-2007, 05:13 PM	#2
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Usually rebills are based on member, not on credit card, or am I wrong?

12-15-2007, 05:56 PM	#8
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

12-15-2007, 07:27 PM	#9
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	I think once the new info is put in your rebill = gone But maybe not ;-) Last edited by xxxice; 12-15-2007 at 07:28 PM..

12-15-2007, 07:33 PM	#10
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	That's a lot of different answers.

12-15-2007, 11:25 PM	#12
69pornlinks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Heranus Posts: 5,560	it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires. __________________ It IS what it IS

12-16-2007, 02:25 AM	#13
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	ccbill has successfully rebilled a card of mine with details that had expired. I was told if it fails with a particular error, they add 2 years to the date and try again.

12-16-2007, 02:52 AM	#16
Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	Some people are really idiots

12-16-2007, 03:19 AM	#19
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	there is no one answer most banks issue a new card same number different exp date and cvv some banks issue a new card with a new number obviously when the number changes the rebill expires __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

12-16-2007, 04:09 AM	#20
Los Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 427	from my experience if you have your own merchant you can try and run a cc without a cvv2 number and just add a couple years to the date and it will go thru.

12-16-2007, 05:34 AM	#21
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I guess it varies then __________________ M&A Queen

12-16-2007, 03:46 PM	#26
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12-16-2007, 03:49 PM	#27
madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	idk thats a good question tho

12-16-2007, 05:24 PM	#31
Eyes_Without_A_Face Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The dark side of the moon Posts: 600	technicaly the rebill doesn't stop but the transaction is declined due to wrong data. PS: emil, thanx for the 42" plasma __________________ Poocis Pornstar Directory: English - Español - Português - Français - Italiano

12-16-2007, 06:47 PM	#33
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	This is a good question, I figured when its expired it stops.

12-16-2007, 06:59 PM	#34
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12-16-2007, 07:25 PM	#35
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12-17-2007, 01:47 AM	#36
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	I've had a mastercard continue to rebill after expiration date was reached, don't know if visa will though.

12-17-2007, 03:07 AM	#39
J B Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: StatsRemote.com Posts: 1,804	We started to use CCBill as a backup processor for StatsRemote in January 2004 and still have quite a few active rebills from that time, so I guess as long as your credit card number doesn't change, the rebills will go through. __________________ A HUGE TIME SAVER FOR LESS THAN $1 PER DAY! Contact: support A\|T statsremote D\|O\|T com

12-17-2007, 03:17 AM	#40
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	I'm 100% sure if I cancell my CC that no one can continue to re-bill me.

12-17-2007, 03:46 AM	#41
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	From my knowledge, the expired card is first declined by the biller, but usually a credit is issued. As soon as the guy updates his credit card information, the rebill cycle continues and you get the negative credit back, plus future rebills. If the member doesn't update his cc data, bad luck.

12-17-2007, 04:10 AM	#43
hateman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,623	fuck rebills, gimme phat PPS