Google Partners With Go Daddy to Screw Black Hat SEO - GoFuckYourself.com

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 07:03 PM

I am not sure how many people here are familiar with black hat seo. But let me tell you what this means ? now Google will have deep data off all the URL?s a individual owns and can relate domains to distinguish site theme along mutable domains per register whether it be owner or company. So now if you run black hat and white hat sites on separate IP?s Google can now tie them together and discredit your white hat sites for also owning black hat sites. Matt Cutts was over heard talking about this method at a recent convention.

sicone · 12-15-2006, 07:04 PM

good.. fuck the cheaters

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 07:06 PM

I agree but some of those cheaters bring alot of search engine traffic to alot of affiliate programs in the adult industry.

DateDoc · 12-15-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by paypaler

I agree but some of those cheaters bring alot of search engine traffic to alot of affiliate programs in the adult industry.

so now legitimate ppl will.....

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 07:08 PM

so basicaly if you registar a domain with godaddy as private it is no longer private because google holds the data

xclusive · 12-15-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone

good.. fuck the cheaters

I'm with you, i think this is a very good thing.

sicone · 12-15-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

so now legitimate ppl will.....

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

so now legitimate ppl will.....

Not true google added a new filter a few weeks ago to knock out porn from the top ten in the serp's read below -

WiredGuy · 12-15-2006, 07:14 PM

You do know that Google has been a registrar for over a year now right? They've had this data for much longer than when their partnership with Go Daddy began.
WG

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

You do know that Google has been a registrar for over a year now right? They've had this data for much longer than when their partnership with Go Daddy began.
WG

Yes i do but now that it is public i figured i would share...

Abyss_Vee · 12-15-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

so now legitimate ppl will.....

very true

Jace · 12-15-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by paypaler

Not true google added a new filter a few weeks ago to knock out porn from the top ten in the serp's read below -

jesus, I wish people would stop posting that article...that happened a few weeks ago and most terms have relevant porn terms in the index again

unocash · 12-15-2006, 07:26 PM

This will certianly be interesting.. ppl still want their porn..

What about other search engines?

Matt 26z · 12-15-2006, 07:47 PM

Black hat SEO's are theifs, plain and simple. They exploit weaknesses in the system to steal spots from legit websites. I'm talking about the guys who base their entire business around exploiting Google. These people collectively steal more money from you in one day than Zango does in a year.

12clicks · 12-15-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Black hat SEO's are theifs, plain and simple. They exploit weaknesses in the system to steal spots from legit websites. I'm talking about the guys who base their entire business around exploiting Google. These people collectively steal more money from you in one day than Zango does in a year.

what a silly line of reasoning.

nico-t · 12-15-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by paypaler

Not true google added a new filter a few weeks ago to knock out porn from the top ten in the serp's read below -

that took a week, after that week everything was back to normal

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-15-2006, 08:00 PM

what exactly is blackhat seo?

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 08:10 PM

Black hat SEO is Search Engine Optimazation for hackers that use XSS cross site scripting, Cloaking, Parasite Hosting, Link dumping and many more.... methods to gain top rankings in search engines.

PR_Sebas · 12-15-2006, 08:13 PM

Seems to me that they are fucking over alot of sites.

Nasty · 12-15-2006, 08:21 PM

Google has had the ability to get info on private domains for quite some time, google it, lots of posts about it on various webmaster boards, its easy for them to get that info with or without godaddy

JD · 12-15-2006, 08:23 PM

rofl at all the hate towards black hatters. The only reason you're talking shit about them is because 1) you're jealous and 2) you can't pull it off

woj · 12-15-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

You do know that Google has been a registrar for over a year now right? They've had this data for much longer than when their partnership with Go Daddy began.
WG

True, but if you put fake whois on each domain... google had really no way of knowing which domains are owned by the same person...

WiredGuy · 12-15-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

True, but if you put fake whois on each domain... google had really no way of knowing which domains are owned by the same person...

DNS servers?
WG

woj · 12-15-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

DNS servers?
WG

It's not hard to have many different DNS servers on many different class c ips...
and really, they can only guess that if dns is the same, it's the same owner... if they have the go daddy data, they would be 100% certain who owns what domains...

madawgz · 12-15-2006, 08:58 PM

hmmmmm one step closer to taking over the world

Linguist · 12-15-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

It's not hard to have many different DNS servers on many different class c ips...
and really, they can only guess that if dns is the same, it's the same owner... if they have the go daddy data, they would be 100% certain who owns what domains...

I'm curious whether or not Google will be able to go deep into customer data of eNom/Godaddy. And if so, then does this also affect Namecheap and other eNom resellers?

Something to think about.

QuaWee · 12-15-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

rofl at all the hate towards black hatters. The only reason you're talking shit about them is because 1) you're jealous and 2) you can't pull it off

lol, so true

Xplicit · 12-15-2006, 09:58 PM

Yeah for the vast majority of us who dont have 1st page google results on our sites, this is good.

starpimps · 12-15-2006, 10:00 PM

i do blue hat seo

Wiggles · 12-15-2006, 10:48 PM

blah seo is seo, all in all its just a bunch of people trying to get to the top.

baddog · 12-15-2006, 11:07 PM

there is no such thing as white hat seo, if you are doing seo it is technically blackhat, google wants it all to be organic

paypaler · 12-15-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

there is no such thing as white hat seo, if you are doing seo it is technically blackhat, google wants it all to be organic

I agree if you are trying to get top ranking it is not just natural but if you use xss to get 100000 inbound links fron .gov and .org sites you are smarter than organic. If that makes sence?

rounders · 12-15-2006, 11:33 PM

fuck the cheaters!

Kevsh · 12-16-2006, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by paypaler

Yes i do but now that it is public i figured i would share...

Well, thanks for giving the heads-up on news that you claim to have known about for a year but kept secret until it was public knowledge...

(i.e. you didn't know, you thought you were breaking news...)

And when you read someone "overheard" Matt Cutts at a show, you can make a implication (just like I did above) that either a) that person is full of shit, b) Matt was deliberately being overheard, c) you are full of shit.

Of course, I have no reason to believe c) but I'll go with a) on this one.

studiocritic · 12-16-2006, 03:06 AM

so the real question is, does GoDaddy hand over the names behind the private registrations?

if so, seems those of us who have Domainsbyproxy accounts have grounds for a nice breach suit.

if you could prove google used that data to penalize successful domains, the compensatory & future damages could be astounding

Carrie · 12-16-2006, 03:16 AM

What? A registrar is doing something that could fuck with your business and you're not all screaming "SUE THEM" and "MOVE YOUR DOMAINS"?

What a strange change from just a few days ago. lmao.

marko13 · 12-16-2006, 04:01 AM

that is very good....

Phoenix66 · 12-16-2006, 05:13 AM

Actually many of se spammers nowadays use domains they do not own - like spotblog and other domains that allow (intentionally or due to the holes in scripts) page creation.

Rhesus · 12-16-2006, 05:43 AM

- You don't need to be a registrar to have access to the zone files that lists nameservers for all domains of a certain extension. I have it too.
- I don't believe for a second that Google is able to 'look behind' whois privacy shields and such.
- Not all black hat SEO is the same.

Rhesus · 12-16-2006, 05:45 AM

Btw thread starter: source please? Sounds like a major breach of privacy rights and unlikely to be true at all.

Vick! · 12-16-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by paypaler

I am not sure how many people here are familiar with black hat seo. But let me tell you what this means ? now Google will have deep data off all the URL?s a individual owns and can relate domains to distinguish site theme along mutable domains per register whether it be owner or company. So now if you run black hat and white hat sites on separate IP?s Google can now tie them together and discredit your white hat sites for also owning black hat sites. Matt Cutts was over heard talking about this method at a recent convention.

It would be much better if you incude source of your post. I dont believe it.

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Originally Posted by paypaler

Not true google added a new filter a few weeks ago to knock out porn from the top ten in the serp's read below -

Stop Please, pussy.org is up again. Its fuckin really rubbish to keep porn out of serps if someone is looking for it. Basic purpose of SEs is ro provide "relevant" results not fuckin non-porn results.

Please guys get a life.

paypaler · 12-16-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhesus

Btw thread starter: source please? Sounds like a major breach of privacy rights and unlikely to be true at all.

Here is the source - http://seoblackhat.com/category/adult-industry/

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paypaler Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 359	I agree but some of those cheaters bring alot of search engine traffic to alot of affiliate programs in the adult industry. __________________ - Buy Targeted Traffic Here. ICQ 438291930

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Black hat SEO's are theifs, plain and simple. They exploit weaknesses in the system to steal spots from legit websites. I'm talking about the guys who base their entire business around exploiting Google. These people collectively steal more money from you in one day than Zango does in a year.

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	rofl at all the hate towards black hatters. The only reason you're talking shit about them is because 1) you're jealous and 2) you can't pull it off

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Rhesus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,009	- You don't need to be a registrar to have access to the zone files that lists nameservers for all domains of a certain extension. I have it too. - I don't believe for a second that Google is able to 'look behind' whois privacy shields and such. - Not all black hat SEO is the same.

12-16-2006, 05:45 AM	#40
Rhesus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,009	Btw thread starter: source please? Sounds like a major breach of privacy rights and unlikely to be true at all.