Splum

By putting money into the American system you are contributing to Americas war in Iraq, so really all these threads against American policy are kind of comical. I mean you want to talk hypocrisy. I understand that there are things that the American government has done wrong but its not like any of you are innocent here.

Example:
A) You purchase content from XYZ company based in America.
B) XYZ company pays business tax to US government.
C) US government buys bullets, bombs etc.
D) You have helped finance US government war in Iraq.

Old proverb: When you point the finger at someone else there are always three pointed back at you.

Splum

*crickets chirping*

Yeah thats what I thought.

crockett

Do you drive a car? Or do you own anything with plastic in it? If so you are supporting dictatorships in the middle east by buying products made of oil.

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KingK7

Where can I PayPal my contribution to cluster bombs?

Splum

I have no problem with that at all.

Scottish Guy

American policy sucks you have a shit government people are not having a jibe at americans they are having a jibe at your administration. Just because you buy something from a country does not in any way mean you support that country. I buy nike clothing does not mean I support sweatshops in asia so S.T.F.U

PMdave

lucky me... Since I make more than I spend I'm draining money out of the US economy so atleast I'm not supporting the war.

Fizzgig

I ate Idaho potatoes last week. I'm so ashamed.

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Splum

Uhh yes it does mean you are supporting sweatshops in Asia if Nike uses sweatshops, you dont have to buy "Nike clothing" you have a choice and you choose to give your money to that company for its products. Dont act like you are all innocent you have choices.

just a punk

A) I purchase content from XYZ and ZYX companies based in Europe.
B) XYZ and ZYX companies pay business tax to their European governments (not a single country), but not to the US government.
C) I sell the memberships to the US citizens who spends the money for watching nude chicks instead of investing it (the money) into the US economy so the US government buys less bullets, bombs etc.
D) I have NOT helped finance US government war in Iraq.

Sounds good enough IMHO

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Splum

Facts...
Everytime you visit Google you are helping fund the Iraq war.
Every visitor coming to your sites from Google are helping fund the Iraq war.
Everytime you surf the internet you are helping fund the Iraq war.
etc etc.

Splum

Yes you have... DirectNIC is a registrar you use right?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...oup%2C_Inc.

Is your billing processor an American company?

wyldworx

Your statements are completely factual and real, I wonder about your motive though. God bless America, and may that same bless the rest of us as well.



Keep your shirts on you fucking trippers, Saddam was a fuckwit!

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just a punk

Yes, that's true. But I'm spending in US less than I'm earning from it. All that difference has a plus sign for me, but a negative sign for the US budget

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pornguy

I have always said, that if you dont like americans, and then country, then dont buy things that we make, or own,.

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Splum

A dollar is a dollar cyberxxx, sure kid yourself all you want but somewhere down the line you have contributed plenty enough over time to the power of the United States.

L-Pink

Quit posting on this American forum ..... please

crockett

Are you posting on GFY via some special "europeein" computer? BTW Al Gore invented the internets so you better stop supporting the Evil US.

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Splum

I am not saying dont do business with America, I am simply saying before you start going around bashing it maybe look at your own selves and your countries and know that you are not without faults and blame as well.

Webby

I have no problems with "Americans" or the country. The government is another story - they are the shits.

I don't buy things you make - there is little to offer apart from a crappy Big Mac or a pair of Nike shoes made by slave labor. The US makes very little and has never had an overall trade surplus since the 60's, apart from arms, - there is little to offer.

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just a punk

Chinese one. According to the labels on my computer parts they were assembled in China/Taiwan

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Webby

I don't give a shit about you or doing business with "America" - you have nothing to offer me. What's your point idiot?

Behave like an idiot and you'll be treated like one - same applies to the stench called a government - and your "moral views". Have a nice day

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Splum

Wow I think you just showed your true colors: "America has little to offer"
Thanks Webby.

pornonada

Seems that is the softcore version now. What happened to the "American Haters Blacklist" meanwhile?

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Webby

You understand now?? Is that an original thought you never heard before?? Did you think the world revolved around the uselessness of the US??

"America" (translation = USA) not only as "little" to offer - it has absolutely nothing to offer me. What part did you not understand idiot??

What do you expect from a nation that has no trade surplus for decades and leeches off other nations in loans to support itself?? You expect it to have something to offer - other than a loan repayment???

Fuck off and get a job and do something useful for your country and quit moaning and trying to justify your pathetic behavior - it's embarassing

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nico-t

what the fuck is your point? do you think those people have anything to do with the war? do you think those people can choose where their tax money is going? it's the government that makes that choice. The mob. we are all bottom feeders who gotta make a living under their regime.

wyldworx

ooohhh bejesus not this one to, fuck off splum u cum junkie! You were conceived from a cum-stain weren't u, thats why u r so angry and fucking stupid!

BitAudioVideo

what country do you live in that you arent dependent on US products or services? you had to use a dozen US technologies just to post your message.

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Webby

Don't you find trash embarassing???

Unfortunately they were given some right of free speech, but were never equipped use a brain in conjuction with this awesome "freedom".

They'd put any nation to shame.

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Splum

I believe he lives in Costa Rica, which benefits greatly from American goods, services and technologies.

Splum

lol go take your ritalin kid

DatingGold

Ur an idiot. Just cause you are an American doesn't mean you helped the war in Iraq. No one has yet to ask me where I would like the millions I pay in taxes every year to go towards.

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Splum

My point was well articulated in the first post, I am sorry you do not understand that you have choices.

Splum

I am sure the US government thanks you for your contribution. You dont have to do business in the United States, you have a choice, thats why you are not asked you know damn well your money goes to the US government. Yet you are willing to overlook this because of the money you make personally. There is no argument here its very plain to see we all have choices.

Webby

Last I looked my computer parts are made in China and Asia generally. Last I looked, the cable company did not belong to the US. Thanks to Jupiter, GFY is hosted on a US server - so, to that degree, I must be using "US technologies".

In reality - the US has nothing to offer - apart from arms and where the US is the main arms trader on the planet. I have little use for arms - but thanks

Suprising that people think the US has something awesome to offer - it doesn't. The US needs more resources from others than it could ever make and borrows to stupid levels in a hope of sustaining the unsustainable.

Economically, one of the major failings is that US manufacturing is a lump of mental on a scrap heap. Doubt it will ever happen, but there is one very serious need for a solid manufacturing base instead of living off the cheap labor of several other nations - who are, ironically, in a better financial situation than the US is.

Don't ever think all other nations rely on the US for much - they don't, but have their own manufacturing base and trade with the world while managing their own fiscal affairs. (Part of the reason for the weak currency exchange on the dollar.)

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pornonada

just generally. Looked around and checked whatever not i own to see if there is something made in USA i have, but even on my Microsoft Mouse it writes "Made in China". lol.

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crockett

What major OS is not devloped by a US company.. asuming it's not some open source project.

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Splum

Your servers are located in the United States, your registrar is an American company etc etc. Please lets not nitpick.

kane

On the other side of the coin you could simply say:

FACT: Anytime you put gas into your car, regardless of where you live, you are helping to fund terrorism. 65% of the oil in the world is in the middle east. These countries support terrorism either directly or indirectly. Even countries like Dubai and Qatar that say they are our allies often give money to terrorist organizations like Hamas or they do little or nothing to find/remove terrorist from their countries. Of the remaining 35% of the world's oil most of it is located in some shithole of a third world country or in places where there is contestant unrest (not all of it, but most of it). Many of these countries also support terrorism either directly or indirectly.

If 65% of the world's oil comes from the middle east then every time you put 10 gallons into your car 6.5 gallons went to a country that supports terrorism.

My point is that in the modern world, unless you live in a house that runs on solar power, has no phone and you grow all your own food, don't own a car and have no source of income, you subsist only what you grow for yourself, some of your money is going to someone that is doing something you don't like.

Splum

Very good points and I have no problem with the products I consume, I can partially take the blame for some of the terrorism aimed at my country. This thread is not directed at most "normal" people its directed at those who think their shit doesnt stink.

pornonada

Of course there are some services or products i use, no doubt on this. But it's not that it's something esential. For example only my .html is hosted in the USA, all my Thumbs and 95% of my bandwith is from webazilla in the netherlands.
Also what makes an US Registar better than any other? Nothing at all, it's not something that couldn't be replaces easy and within some days.

I'am not an US Hater as you called me, but there aren't really that much products and services i use or could easiest replace as an european.

how i said, just generally as it was just interesting to see that there aren't really many things from the US i'am using

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just a punk

Nop, as far as I know Russia is number one on that market again If I wrong there - please correct me.

As about the US products "I'm using". I can only agree with you because I can't name anything labeled "made in USA" I have purchased recently. All the natural resources I'm using (e.g. gas, fuel, wood-made products etc) have a local origin because my country is one of the biggest exporter of these products so there is no need for the import. As about the food, so I prefer healthy and natural food only and don't eat in McDonald's (actually I'm visiting em' sometimes but only to use their free toilets ). All the technics I buy is coming from China/Taiwan/Japan + a few EU countries (e.g. Phillips etc). So I really can't find anything USA-related among the things I'm used to pay for everyday.

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Splum

Hmm let me count how many Bulgarian products I have in my household.... oh look none. Fact remains, whether you like it or not, you have blood on your hands as well, own up to it.

L-Pink

I try to BUY AMERICAN, I really do. It's sad.

Both of my heavily advertised "Heartbeat of America" Chevrolets were made in foreign countries. My Apple computer was made in China. TV's, appliances, cameras, most clothing ... all made in other countries despite my efforts.

I have found good furniture made in the Carolina's, the Michelin tires on my truck are US made. For the most part American consumers daily weaken our economy without thought or choice.

Webby

What you had as examples are more evidence of the reality than your percieved version - the US is very heavily reliant on other nations, - not the other way around.

"Those who think their shit doesnt stink"... who is that suppose to mean?? The prime stench on this planet comes from what is known as the US, tho there are other nations not far behind.

It is also fair to say the biggest yapping clueless mouths always seem to come from the US - hardly a surprise, but create this impression in other nations that the US is full of idiots just like you. Fortunately, that is not the case and it may be relevant to have one of your countrymen tell you to shut your stupid mouth and quit being an ignorant asshole.

Till you can behave, there is no reason to treat you or your government with anything but the contempt they fully deserve. Have a nice day silly little lad

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Splum

I think what you are smelling is that jungle monkey you call a teen girlfriend youve got stashed in your hut. You really should wash her/its cooch Webby.

Long live the United States of America.

pornonada

hahahahaha, look, that's the difference, i don't get mad with such things and i don't have to defend whatever at all costs. I'am ok that Bulgaria for example is one of the poorer countries, that makes my own life even better

You are too fantatic, you are too self conveinced and you think just because are an American you can look down from the high horse, but you fail to realize that with your "wanna-be-propaganda" you don't do nobody a favour, it's a joke.

Even more after you came up with that "Anti-American-Blacklist" you put people in that had a different opinion on some political issues, pfffffttttttt, you are the biggest Anti-American your own. You seem to be like the kind of persons that failed moslty make something their own and than think only because they are born in the US makes them a "Higher Class" automaticly, but that's not true. An idiot is just an idiot, doesn't matter where in the universe, lol.

And now what? Will this bring me now on the "Ultra-American0 Hater List? Will it be shared not on CNN and not only to your "Business Partners"??
Pffffft, get a life man.

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Webby

Damn.. if these arms trading figures are correct - it's the last thing going for the US and sure to throw that trading deficit into a total spin.

Ah.. found some stats - tho they are 2 years out date..

Country Current US dollars 1990 US dollars
United States $89,500,000,000 $5,400,000,000
Russia $4,600,000,000 $6,200,000,000
France $4,400,000,000 $2,100,000,000
United Kingdom $1,900,000,000 $985,000,000
Germany $900,000,000 $1,100,000,000
Canada $900,000,000 $543,000,000
China $700,000,000 $125,000,000
Israel $500,000,000 $283,000,000

Odd that a nation can be the largest weapons trader on the planet and still can't muster a trade surplus for almost four decades. Shows how bad the rest must be.

Just had a look round the office here and trying to find anything of US manufacture - it's all either local or manufactured in Asia. Same here on food - avoid eating crap. The diet here is very healthy in comparison with a number of industrialized countries and also far cheaper - a fair amount of fruit etc is exported - including to the US There are a few US restaurant food chains - McDonalds, TGF, Hooters blah, but also better local eating houses

Cars are mainly from Japan, but a few from the US, tho these are mainly the preference of US folks here - and a few vehicles from Europe.

Suspect the US consumes every bit of it's manufacturing output - then borrows to buy as much as credit will allow from other nations. Back to the old story of what exactly the US has to offer the planet - apart from arms and the strange desire for global conflict and creating profit centers from "wars"

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kane

If you do live in Costa Rica, let's do a little comparison.

US inflation rate - 2.97% (give or take)
Costa Rica inflation rate - 13.8% (give or take)

US unemployment rate - 5.1%
Costa Rica unemployment rate - 6.6%

US GDP 12.41 trillion
Costa Rica GDP 40.44 billion

US per capita income - 41,000 (average)
Costa Rica per capita income - 10,100 (average)

US exports - 927.5 billion
Costa Rica exports - 7.005 billion

US imports - 1.727 trillion
Costa Rica imports - 9.69 billion (is that is deficit? oh the horror.)

Now here is the interesting one ( at least to me)
If you take the total deficit for each country and divide it by the number of people in the country here is what you come up with. This number represents the amount of the deficit each person in the country is responsible for.

US - $2,665
Costa Rica $658

Now that seems like a big difference, but when you factor that number in with the average per capita income they are exactly the same. The average US citizen will pay 6.5% of their income towards the deficit and the average Costa Rican will also pay 6.5% of their income towards their deficit.

So yes, the US has a deficit, but so do most countries and yes ours is bigger, but so is our average income and spending power so in the end it equals out.

As for the US not contributing anything to the world.

Last I checked we had a little company called Microsoft in this country. I'm sure they've done nothing to help the world. That Henry Ford guy didn't do jack shit for helping to revolutionize cars. Kind of like those lame ass Wright brothers and their stupid flying machines. I'm pretty sure that Boeing aircraft I flew in on my last vacation came from. . . well. . . Boeing which is a US company. Here is a nice little list of inventions by people in the US http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tes_inventions There are a lot of useless things on there like Personal Computer and the defibrillator, the space shuttle and the polio vaccine.

Are we a perfect country? No. do we make mistakes? Hell yeah! Do I agree with everything this country does or stands for? No. I would imagine that most anyone could say the same about their country.

Are we a great country that actually contributes a great deal to the world. Without a doubt.

If we are such a terrible country then why do people still flock to come here? Here's a nice little statistic from the UN. These are the top three destination countries for immigrants the number is the amount of people that moved there in 2004: 946,100 for the U.S., 266,500 for the UK, and 156,400 for Italy. I don't see people flocking to your utopian paradise.

Anyway. I would ask you to post exactly what your country has done or does to contribute to the world as a whole and explain to me why it is so much better than mine?