A CHALLENGE to the SUCCESSFUL and UNSUCCESSFUL - GoFuckYourself.com

fr0gman · 01-06-2007, 09:03 PM

How to make $120,316.04 with very little effort?

I want to issue a challenge to those of us who are successful in what they do AND to those of us who are unsuccessful in what they do. When I speak of success I am not speaking of only financial success. I am speaking of success in general. If you feel that you are successful in what you do (in any aspect) then I am talking to you and if you feel that you are unsuccessful in what you do then I am talking to you as well. Even if you fall in the middle, you owe it to yourself to read this thread for when you have finished you might just have a different way of looking at things.

To the SUCCESSFUL among us:
What if I could show you a way to earn well over $100,000.00 with very little effort and you will feel great while doing it? Would that be interesting to you?

To the UNSUCCESSFUL among us:
What if I could show you a way to make over $40,000.00, learn more than you every though possible and have fun in the process. Would that interest you?

Last night I was reading a book by a very popular business development author and in this book the topic of increasing your reach or effectiveness by only 1% each day. The context of the discussion was that of mainstream, real-world sales and the author discussed setting goals so small as to only require a 1% increase in success each day. Now, this got me to thinking about how could a person apply this method to what we do in terms of marketing our products, programs and/or services on the internet and that is when I had one of those ?ah ha? moments that happen very rarely? well rarely for me at least. It was from this moment of clarity that I came up with the idea of issuing a challenge to both sides of the spectrum on gfy.

Before I talk about the specifics of the challenge I would like for you to see a small break down of how powerful it can be to use the 1% model on something as simple as a dollar. When you apply the model of increasing that single dollar by 1% each day at the end of the first day you have $1.01 but at the end of the year you have $37.78 or 3678% more than when you first started. I am sure that I do not need to extrapolate these numbers in order for you to see that a simple 1% increase is significant over the long term. But let?s consider the possibility of applying this idea to a small group of affiliates.

Here is the challenge that will make you more money than you have imagined.

FIRST CHALLENGE:

I formally challenge every successful person on GFY to commit to mentoring a group of affiliates for 36 months.

SECOND CHALLENGE:

I formally challenge every person that considers themselves unsuccessful to commit to mentoring by 1 person from this board.

The term of this experiment will be 36 months so PLEASE do not agree to participate unless you have the stick-to-it?ness to complete the entire 36 months.

The Idea:

The idea of this challenge is to bring people together in a way that will be mutually beneficial to all concerned. My observation of this industry suggests that people play their cards too close to their vest in fear that someone will ?out do? them. This position retards growth and those that practice it are denying themselves greater success.

I would like to see every ?successful? person on this board take a minimum of 3 noobs or people who otherwise identify themselves as unsuccessful. You will train, help, direct and otherwise encourage these people to increase their effectiveness by 1% each day with an initial goal of producing 1 sale per day. Then help them to increase that by 1% each day. The mentors will also be responsible for increasing their recruiting efforts by 1% each day so by the 36th month you are no longer mentoring 3 people but now you have 38 eager students under your tutelage.

I would also like to see those of you that need help to make yourselves known. Your mission should you choose to accept it will be to LEARN and work each day to improve what you are doing by simply 1%. If you do this and do it religiously at the end of this experiment you will have a sustainable income that will exceed anything that you have ever imagined.

THE REAL NUMBERS:

For the mentors:

If you follow the 1% model after 36 months you will realize $120,316.04 AND a sustainable monthly revenue of $14,707.79. These numbers are based on making only $.50 from each sale generated by your protégé?s.

For the students:

If you follow the 1% model after 36 months you will realize $41,210.19 AND a sustainable monthly income of $3,870.47. These numbers are based on making only $5.00 per sale that you generate.

As you can see by simply applying a small amount of effort over a long period of time everyone involved will make substantial profits.

Like I said, I do not care what your area of expertise might be. If you look at what you do and you can honestly say, ?I am successful? then you are on the right track. You owe it to yourself and to those around you to accept this challenge. By the same token, if you are struggling and you are willing to accept help when it is given then you woe it to yourself to accept this challenge.

I will be the first to commit.

I will accept 3 people that I will show how to do what I do, exactly the way that I do it. If you are willing to follow direction and complete the steps then I can show you how to make money the way that I make money.

Who?s next?

Dagwolf · 01-06-2007, 09:08 PM

That's a kickin' idea.

I can think of a couple of drawbacks, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.

I'll have to see how things go with the doctor before I can sign on for anything like this.

By the way, what's your idea of "Successful?"

fr0gman · 01-06-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

That's a kickin' idea.

I can think of a couple of drawbacks, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.

I'll have to see how things go with the doctor before I can sign on for anything like this.

By the way, what's your idea of "Successful?"

Feel free to voice your concerns.... This is a theory in the making so there is always room for improvement.

It is not about *MY* idea of successful but more about *YOUR* idea. If you feel that you are successful them you are SUCCESSFUL and there are people who would benefit from your experience.

Z · 01-06-2007, 09:23 PM

This definitely has potential...hhmmm, let's see where it goes.

fr0gman · 01-06-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Z

This definitely has potential...hhmmm, let's see where it goes.

Is that a commitment?

Mpegmaster · 01-06-2007, 11:04 PM

You know i am innnnnn ;)

AndrewKanuck · 01-06-2007, 11:10 PM

When in rome...

AndrewKanuck · 01-06-2007, 11:11 PM

Crazy duplicate...

Xplicit · 01-06-2007, 11:23 PM

Just to be realistic, fuck helping newbies.

The amount of competition in the industry is still growing faster then the amount people are spending on porn. In other words - theres only so much money to go around.

Personally i think boards like this and other industry boards should become private and have a screening process where new members need to show their URLs and prove they own them before their account gets approved.

This industry is reaching saturation point, we should all be keeping ahold of whatever we have.

I'm not teaching any newbies jack shit.

p0rnus · 01-06-2007, 11:30 PM

its a good idea. not sure which side of the spectrum i'd fall on

very successful in my mainstream career

still learning the adult industry

AndrewKanuck · 01-06-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit

Just to be realistic, fuck helping newbies.

The amount of competition in the industry is still growing faster then the amount people are spending on porn. In other words - theres only so much money to go around.

Personally i think boards like this and other industry boards should become private and have a screening process where new members need to show their URLs and prove they own them before their account gets approved.

This industry is reaching saturation point, we should all be keeping ahold of whatever we have.

I'm not teaching any newbies jack shit.

Katt Williams says it best when he talks about only hanging around people that strive for bigger and better things. I believe his quote is something along the lines of "If you're still only selling weed after 7 years and haven't moved into cocain....."....in other words - if you're worried about newbies in the industry, than you yourself are still doing what the newbies do when they start off.

Don't blame new people joining the industry for your lack of moving up within the industry.

Yngwie · 01-06-2007, 11:44 PM

I sure am not successful at this point and would take any help I could get. Especially if it meant learning new things that I didn't know about or knew about, but never took the time to learn.

marketsmart · 01-06-2007, 11:46 PM

i am going blackhat this year, so dont waste your time... i will soon own all your traffic anyway.....

L-Pink · 01-06-2007, 11:47 PM

This doesn't have anything to do with Amway does it?

Yngwie · 01-06-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

This doesn't have anything to do with Amway does it?

wanna join under me? lol

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

This doesn't have anything to do with Amway does it?

If by that you mean selling soap and vitamins then NO...

But if you mean does it have anything to do with people coming together and sharing what they know in order to grow their respective businesses and improve the industry as a whole, then YES... everyone could learn a lot of the Amway model.

I promise not to ask you to buy soap though.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit

Just to be realistic, fuck helping newbies.

The amount of competition in the industry is still growing faster then the amount people are spending on porn. In other words - theres only so much money to go around.

Personally i think boards like this and other industry boards should become private and have a screening process where new members need to show their URLs and prove they own them before their account gets approved.

This industry is reaching saturation point, we should all be keeping ahold of whatever we have.

I'm not teaching any newbies jack shit.

People like you are the reason people like me exist.

From the very beginning I have had a theory about the "fuck-the-newbie" crowd and it goes something like this:

If you are worried about the strength of your system to the point where you guard it then you do not have a very strong system. Every intelligent marketer knows that the best way to improve what you are doing is to teach others to do the same thing.

You need to be involved in this kind of thing more than newbies. You will walk away with more money, a stronger sung-fu and higher self worth.

Face the facts. The industry changes daily and if you are too entrenched in your opinion to allow for change then you will be buried by it.

phasic · 01-07-2007, 01:14 AM

fr0gman, i like the idea. i would love to be mentored.

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 01:26 AM

what a retarded thread.

who the fuck is going to mentor stupid noobs? and for what purpose, so they can get a cut from your pie?

idiots.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

what a retarded thread.

who the fuck is going to mentor stupid noobs? and for what purpose, so they can get a cut from your pie?

idiots.

DJ the thing that amuses me most about you is that you seek every opportunity to shine a light on your ignorance. Every time I find what I think is the most brain-dead fast food drive through employee all I have to do is open GFY and read one of your posts and it renews my belief in functional retardation.

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrewKanuck

in other words - if you're worried about newbies in the industry, than you yourself are still doing what the newbies do when they start off.

stupid logic.

if i'm going to mentor someone, i'm going to give him all my secrets and knowledge that I have accumulated myself over the years. so this person won't be a noob anymore, and with all that valuable info that i give him, he can hurt my income by cutting into my business.

why would anyone in their right mind do that?

unless the info you give out is just some generic bulshit advice that is useless anyway.

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

DJ the thing that amuses me most about you is that you seek every opportunity to shine a light on your ignorance. Every time I find what I think is the most brain-dead fast food drive through employee all I have to do is open GFY and read one of your posts and it renews my belief in functional retardation.

Yeah ok, I'm dumb and you're smart. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 01:39 AM

you sell a fucking snake oil bullshit "get rich quick" scam (http://www.powerpagematrix.com)

of course you want to "mentor" an army of stupid noobs so that they will buy your worthless shit.

Xplicit · 01-07-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

People like you are the reason people like me exist.

From the very beginning I have had a theory about the "fuck-the-newbie" crowd and it goes something like this:

If you are worried about the strength of your system to the point where you guard it then you do not have a very strong system. Every intelligent marketer knows that the best way to improve what you are doing is to teach others to do the same thing.

You need to be involved in this kind of thing more than newbies. You will walk away with more money, a stronger sung-fu and higher self worth.

Face the facts. The industry changes daily and if you are too entrenched in your opinion to allow for change then you will be buried by it.

You're completely fucking retarded.

YOU made your ENTIRE POST sound like you are trying to coach newbies until they become big players. I don't give a shit if they post their stupid galleries or whatever fucking smalltime way people get traffic.

LOL bro, i'm doing more than fine. But if your goal is to get newbies making "$120,316" its not gonna be by gallery posting, meaning you're gonna teach idiots too stupid to figure out shit like SEO on their own and weren't motivated enough to do their own research.

Your idea is truly stupid - you won't convince me otherwise.

DaddyMustang · 01-07-2007, 02:29 AM

this thread gets better and better ...

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 02:52 AM

I will answer this as I see it and it's all about how I see it and others might see it very differently. Maybe others have covered the same points though.

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FIRST CHALLENGE:

I formally challenge every successful person on GFY to commit to mentoring a group of affiliates for 36 months.

WRONG!!

Affiliates who need 36 months of mentoring are not going to make you rich. I would say concentrate more on converting what existing traffic sends rather than look for more.

If you want more traffic improve your conversions by the power of the site, not by sending more traffic. The extra traffic will come and more importantly it will stick. If you're not getting the cream traffic is probably because the cream traffic guys don't think your site is worth it.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Yeah ok, I'm dumb and you're smart. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.

You really did not even need to print this. Your raft of posts speak louder than any single rant every could.

But at least on this occasion you are correct.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I will answer this as I see it and it's all about how I see it and others might see it very differently. Maybe others have covered the same points though.

WRONG!!

Affiliates who need 36 months of mentoring are not going to make you rich. I would say concentrate more on converting what existing traffic sends rather than look for more.

If you want more traffic improve your conversions by the power of the site, not by sending more traffic. The extra traffic will come and more importantly it will stick. If you're not getting the cream traffic is probably because the cream traffic guys don't think your site is worth it.

You have completely missed the point Paul, but thanks for checking in. It is always nice to see you involved.

This idea is not about traffic or any single topic. It is more about shifting some paradigms that by the posts in this thread really need to be shifted.

I knew that when I posted this thread that it would bring out the fearful and the nay-sayers. The truth is that well over 80% of the people on this board or any other would benefit greatly by sharing info with others. And the thread bare argument that if you teach someone they will somehow drive you out of the market is complete BS and is only spoken by those that have at best a tenuous grasp on their own systems.

Do I think it will take 36 months for some people to impart their knowledge.. no. In fact many people on here blow their mental loads in less than 36 seconds. The 36 month number is more about commitment than anything else. Even someone of your rank could use a 36 month commitment.

I directly challenge you Paul. Take on this challenge if for no other reason than to leave a greater legacy.

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

You really did not even need to print this. Your raft of posts speak louder than any single rant every could.

Blah Blah Blah.

If you don't have any legitimate criticism of my comments then STFU and GTFO.

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 03:02 AM

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The Idea:

The idea of this challenge is to bring people together in a way that will be mutually beneficial to all concerned. My observation of this industry suggests that people play their cards too close to their vest in fear that someone will ?out do? them. This position retards growth and those that practice it are denying themselves greater success.

No if you keep telling people how you make money many will think you are being arrogant or spamming. Of course these are the ones unable to see what you are saying or unable to use the information you are giving out.

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I would like to see every ?successful? person on this board take a minimum of 3 noobs or people who otherwise identify themselves as unsuccessful. You will train, help, direct and otherwise encourage these people to increase their effectiveness by 1% each day with an initial goal of producing 1 sale per day. Then help them to increase that by 1% each day. The mentors will also be responsible for increasing their recruiting efforts by 1% each day so by the 36th month you are no longer mentoring 3 people but now you have 38 eager students under your tutelage.

Again you think short term.

Improve the effectiveness of your site by 1% so ALL benefit is a much better route. Taking 3 noobs and teaching them what they should already know helps so little it will not make anyone rich. Improving your sites conversions by 1% is a much better route.

Sorry but your whole approach is wrong IMO. And your figures are pulled out of the air.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit

You're completely fucking retarded.

YOU made your ENTIRE POST sound like you are trying to coach newbies until they become big players. I don't give a shit if they post their stupid galleries or whatever fucking smalltime way people get traffic.

LOL bro, i'm doing more than fine. But if your goal is to get newbies making "$120,316" its not gonna be by gallery posting, meaning you're gonna teach idiots too stupid to figure out shit like SEO on their own and weren't motivated enough to do their own research.

Your idea is truly stupid - you won't convince me otherwise.

I never said a single word about galleries or traffic or any of the things that you mentioned.

If you don't see what this is about then there is nothign I can do to help you.

Keep doing what you are doing and please accept my congratulations for doing more than fine.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Blah Blah Blah.

If you don't have any legitimate criticism of my comments then STFU and GTFO.

Serious man,

Do you ever read the things that you write? Post one legitimate thread and I will be happy to post legitimate criticism. All I have ever seen from you are juvenile attacks and inane prattling.

I offer as evidence:

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

everytime i see a baby cry i want to drop kick it in the head. should i have still kids like most people do?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-07-2007, 03:12 AM

i'm a noob and i already have a half dozen newbiernoobs under me, wtf? somebody needs to teach me something for once...

i'll take a mentor please...

DarkJedi · 01-07-2007, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

I offer as evidence:

So what? This is the way I feel. You have a problem with that?

And what does it have to do with being (or not being) a webmaster?

Unlike you, I'm here to have fun, not pawn off some stupid snake oil shit to noobs.

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

You have completely missed the point Paul, but thanks for checking in. It is always nice to see you involved.

This idea is not about traffic or any single topic. It is more about shifting some paradigms that by the posts in this thread really need to be shifted.

I knew that when I posted this thread that it would bring out the fearful and the nay-sayers. The truth is that well over 80% of the people on this board or any other would benefit greatly by sharing info with others. And the thread bare argument that if you teach someone they will somehow drive you out of the market is complete BS and is only spoken by those that have at best a tenuous grasp on their own systems.

Do I think it will take 36 months for some people to impart their knowledge.. no. In fact many people on here blow their mental loads in less than 36 seconds. The 36 month number is more about commitment than anything else. Even someone of your rank could use a 36 month commitment.

I directly challenge you Paul. Take on this challenge if for no other reason than to leave a greater legacy.

You are way to late. I've been telling people on boards that good porn leads to better earnings for years. Some have picked it up and used it, others have not. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As for teaching people how to shoot porn, ask around about whether I give out info and help on pornography. Go look at the article I have dotted around about shooting pornography, again the stupid still insist I'm talking about photography. But as I said, horses ...........

As for helping noob affiliates, you need to ask my affiliates if I'm helpful. Even though my knowledge of traffic is limited.

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

I never said a single word about galleries or traffic or any of the things that you mentioned.

If you don't see what this is about then there is nothign I can do to help you.

Keep doing what you are doing and please accept my congratulations for doing more than fine.

Don't forget a lot of posters here will read a post, assume you meant something else and reply to that assumption.

Maybe they are telling you more about what they are thinking rather than what you are thinking.

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Sorry but your whole approach is wrong IMO. And your figures are pulled out of the air.

Paul you are simply not seeing this. I honestly expected more from you.

If you follow the 1% idea and start with 3 students the math simple works out. here is an example:

Now let's look at what it would mean for the affiliates:

Grated these numbers are based on them doing NOTHING more than following your instruction on how to sell a $5.00 product and nothing more.

There is power in this idea...

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Don't forget a lot of posters here will read a post, assume you meant something else and reply to that assumption.

Maybe they are telling you more about what they are thinking rather than what you are thinking.

Touche'!

aico · 01-07-2007, 03:22 AM

Koom-by-ya

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You are way to late. I've been telling people on boards that good porn leads to better earnings for years. Some have picked it up and used it, others have not. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As for teaching people how to shoot porn, ask around about whether I give out info and help on pornography. Go look at the article I have dotted around about shooting pornography, again the stupid still insist I'm talking about photography. But as I said, horses ...........

As for helping noob affiliates, you need to ask my affiliates if I'm helpful. Even though my knowledge of traffic is limited.

Ok then why are you lambasting my idea. It should to me like you are doing exactly what I have suggested.

Have I missed something here?

fr0gman · 01-07-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

So what? This is the way I feel. You have a problem with that?

And what does it have to do with being (or not being) a webmaster?

Unlike you, I'm here to have fun, not pawn off some stupid snake oil shit to noobs.

I am so happy that you have found a FUN place to hang out. Some people here actually make a living doing what they do.

Please go and have fun and try to avoid parenthood.

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

Ok then why are you lambasting my idea. It should to me like you are doing exactly what I have suggested.

Have I missed something here?

I'm lambasting your approach of helping individual noobs instead of improving things for everyone. Again your figures are assuming you do not desert other parts of your business. You assume people have the FREE time to help noobs.

What do I NOT DO to devote time to teaching noobs?

Maybe I should stop updating the site, SEO, the running of the site, new projects, improving text on the site, teaching my two shooters how to get more out of models, posting on boards on a Sunday morning

, going to shows to do deals?

What do I give up to help these noobs reach 2 sign ups a day and who then will fuck off to work for "Iconvertbetterandkissass.com"? Because I ignored other vital jobs.

Affiliates are self employed, they expect 50% +, tools and support. Now you're asking me to teach them.

OK any noob who wants to sign a 3 year contract that they will work only for me can get all the knowledge I have.

Now do you see the flaw in your plan?

Improve the effectiveness of your site and your business will improve. And keep improving, plus you are less likely to lose affiliates to better converting sites.

starpimps · 01-07-2007, 04:14 AM

u should be sellin an ebook!
no seriously, good idea!

Klen · 01-07-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by starpimps

u should be sellin an ebook!
no seriously, good idea!

He already do that

wyldworx · 01-07-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

That's a kickin' idea.

I can think of a couple of drawbacks, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.

I'll have to see how things go with the doctor before I can sign on for anything like this.

By the way, what's your idea of "Successful?"

I agree, the risks are worthwhile ones. It is all risky business in the end, so I don't see a reason not to give it a go!!

SuperDave05 · 01-07-2007, 08:54 AM

fr0gman, lets do this. Hit me up when your ready.

By the way, hilarious comments relating to DarkJedi!

ICQ: 388332790

Big_Red · 01-07-2007, 08:57 AM

Ok, a mentor would really help me out right now. If anyone is up to taking me on, I am game.

yeh yeh I know, call me unsuccessful.

Paul Markham · 01-07-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Unlike you, I'm here to have fun, not pawn off some stupid snake oil shit to noobs.

Glad to know you are only here for fun.

jayeff · 01-07-2007, 09:39 AM

Taking the opening post of this thread at face value, what you are proposing is what I suggest from time to time that sponsors should be doing. So how can hardly I disagree with your intentions.

In the broader context, I also often argue that the unwillingness of people in this industry to share useful information is grossly inefficient because it means we all end up spending large amounts of time, money and energy, re-inventing the same wheels.

Further, very few people even attempt to develop themselves professionally, but just climb on the same treadmill each morning to face more of the same-old, same-old. Not only is that ultimately mind numbing, but financially it means you are creating your own ceiling and walls. It wouldn't even have been possible to start out this way except for a huge excess of demand over supply and no matter how much you used to make or are making now, without the ablity to recognize the need for change and adapting to it, your future is limited.

There are two problems which usually prevent such schemes reaching their potential for all involved. The first is simple greed: the person behind the scheme wants to hit the ground running, so instead of actually taking people with unproven potential, tries to grab those with proven potential. Which makes sense until you consider that such people in most cases are unlikely to want, need or appreciate the kind of help which can be passed along.

However if someone runs this in a way which might work, then there is the reality that it is near impossible to meet people face to face in an effort to establish whether they (and you) would benefit. I would guess that over the years I made good choices with my employees better than 80% of the time. But heaven knows what that percentage would have dropped to if my only contact with them were by email or ICQ, or even by 'phone.

And that leaves you facing the problem that time dictates you can only deal with a relatively small number of people at once. If - I would say inevitably - a high percentage turn out to be a waste of time, you have a possible problem.

In other words, such schemes don't have to be scams, but nor are they likely to achieve a great deal without some careful thought.

DWB · 01-07-2007, 09:42 AM

Based on my lifestyle and my needs, I do very well and consider myself successful, but want to take it to the next level.

If someone making a million a year or more (net) wants to mentor me, I'm waiting for you with open arms...

01-06-2007, 09:03 PM	#1
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	A CHALLENGE to the SUCCESSFUL and UNSUCCESSFUL How to make $120,316.04 with very little effort? I want to issue a challenge to those of us who are successful in what they do AND to those of us who are unsuccessful in what they do. When I speak of success I am not speaking of only financial success. I am speaking of success in general. If you feel that you are successful in what you do (in any aspect) then I am talking to you and if you feel that you are unsuccessful in what you do then I am talking to you as well. Even if you fall in the middle, you owe it to yourself to read this thread for when you have finished you might just have a different way of looking at things. To the SUCCESSFUL among us: What if I could show you a way to earn well over $100,000.00 with very little effort and you will feel great while doing it? Would that be interesting to you? To the UNSUCCESSFUL among us: What if I could show you a way to make over $40,000.00, learn more than you every though possible and have fun in the process. Would that interest you? Last night I was reading a book by a very popular business development author and in this book the topic of increasing your reach or effectiveness by only 1% each day. The context of the discussion was that of mainstream, real-world sales and the author discussed setting goals so small as to only require a 1% increase in success each day. Now, this got me to thinking about how could a person apply this method to what we do in terms of marketing our products, programs and/or services on the internet and that is when I had one of those ?ah ha? moments that happen very rarely? well rarely for me at least. It was from this moment of clarity that I came up with the idea of issuing a challenge to both sides of the spectrum on gfy. Before I talk about the specifics of the challenge I would like for you to see a small break down of how powerful it can be to use the 1% model on something as simple as a dollar. When you apply the model of increasing that single dollar by 1% each day at the end of the first day you have $1.01 but at the end of the year you have $37.78 or 3678% more than when you first started. I am sure that I do not need to extrapolate these numbers in order for you to see that a simple 1% increase is significant over the long term. But let?s consider the possibility of applying this idea to a small group of affiliates. Here is the challenge that will make you more money than you have imagined. FIRST CHALLENGE: I formally challenge every successful person on GFY to commit to mentoring a group of affiliates for 36 months. SECOND CHALLENGE: I formally challenge every person that considers themselves unsuccessful to commit to mentoring by 1 person from this board. The term of this experiment will be 36 months so PLEASE do not agree to participate unless you have the stick-to-it?ness to complete the entire 36 months. The Idea: The idea of this challenge is to bring people together in a way that will be mutually beneficial to all concerned. My observation of this industry suggests that people play their cards too close to their vest in fear that someone will ?out do? them. This position retards growth and those that practice it are denying themselves greater success. I would like to see every ?successful? person on this board take a minimum of 3 noobs or people who otherwise identify themselves as unsuccessful. You will train, help, direct and otherwise encourage these people to increase their effectiveness by 1% each day with an initial goal of producing 1 sale per day. Then help them to increase that by 1% each day. The mentors will also be responsible for increasing their recruiting efforts by 1% each day so by the 36th month you are no longer mentoring 3 people but now you have 38 eager students under your tutelage. I would also like to see those of you that need help to make yourselves known. Your mission should you choose to accept it will be to LEARN and work each day to improve what you are doing by simply 1%. If you do this and do it religiously at the end of this experiment you will have a sustainable income that will exceed anything that you have ever imagined. THE REAL NUMBERS: For the mentors: If you follow the 1% model after 36 months you will realize $120,316.04 AND a sustainable monthly revenue of $14,707.79. These numbers are based on making only $.50 from each sale generated by your protégé?s. For the students: If you follow the 1% model after 36 months you will realize $41,210.19 AND a sustainable monthly income of $3,870.47. These numbers are based on making only $5.00 per sale that you generate. As you can see by simply applying a small amount of effort over a long period of time everyone involved will make substantial profits. Like I said, I do not care what your area of expertise might be. If you look at what you do and you can honestly say, ?I am successful? then you are on the right track. You owe it to yourself and to those around you to accept this challenge. By the same token, if you are struggling and you are willing to accept help when it is given then you woe it to yourself to accept this challenge. I will be the first to commit. I will accept 3 people that I will show how to do what I do, exactly the way that I do it. If you are willing to follow direction and complete the steps then I can show you how to make money the way that I make money. Who?s next? __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! 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01-06-2007, 09:08 PM	#2
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	That's a kickin' idea. I can think of a couple of drawbacks, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing. I'll have to see how things go with the doctor before I can sign on for anything like this. By the way, what's your idea of "Successful?" __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women. Last edited by Dagwolf; 01-06-2007 at 09:09 PM..

01-06-2007, 11:10 PM	#7
AndrewKanuck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cleveland & Atlanta Posts: 6,706	When in rome... __________________

01-06-2007, 11:11 PM	#8
AndrewKanuck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cleveland & Atlanta Posts: 6,706	Crazy duplicate... __________________

01-06-2007, 11:30 PM	#10
p0rnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 794	its a good idea. not sure which side of the spectrum i'd fall on very successful in my mainstream career still learning the adult industry __________________ ICQ: 330-164-445

01-06-2007, 09:23 PM	#4
Z Vidi Vici Veni Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,308	This definitely has potential...hhmmm, let's see where it goes.

01-06-2007, 11:04 PM	#6
Mpegmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,300	You know i am innnnnn ;)

01-06-2007, 11:23 PM	#9
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Just to be realistic, fuck helping newbies. The amount of competition in the industry is still growing faster then the amount people are spending on porn. In other words - theres only so much money to go around. Personally i think boards like this and other industry boards should become private and have a screening process where new members need to show their URLs and prove they own them before their account gets approved. This industry is reaching saturation point, we should all be keeping ahold of whatever we have. I'm not teaching any newbies jack shit.

01-06-2007, 11:44 PM	#12
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I sure am not successful at this point and would take any help I could get. Especially if it meant learning new things that I didn't know about or knew about, but never took the time to learn. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-06-2007, 11:46 PM	#13
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i am going blackhat this year, so dont waste your time... i will soon own all your traffic anyway.....

01-06-2007, 11:47 PM	#14
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	This doesn't have anything to do with Amway does it?

01-07-2007, 01:14 AM	#18
phasic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Posts: 2,104	fr0gman, i like the idea. i would love to be mentored. __________________ Brief revisit. (mic drop)

01-07-2007, 01:26 AM	#19
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	what a retarded thread. who the fuck is going to mentor stupid noobs? and for what purpose, so they can get a cut from your pie? idiots.

01-07-2007, 01:39 AM	#23
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	you sell a fucking snake oil bullshit "get rich quick" scam (http://www.powerpagematrix.com) of course you want to "mentor" an army of stupid noobs so that they will buy your worthless shit. Last edited by DarkJedi; 01-07-2007 at 01:41 AM..

01-07-2007, 02:29 AM	#25
DaddyMustang Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,892	this thread gets better and better ...

01-07-2007, 03:12 AM	#33
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i'm a noob and i already have a half dozen newbiernoobs under me, wtf? somebody needs to teach me something for once... i'll take a mentor please...

01-07-2007, 03:22 AM	#39
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Koom-by-ya

01-07-2007, 04:14 AM	#43
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	u should be sellin an ebook! no seriously, good idea! __________________ Teen Porn Models / Solo Girls

01-07-2007, 08:54 AM	#46
SuperDave05 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 100	fr0gman, lets do this. Hit me up when your ready. By the way, hilarious comments relating to DarkJedi! ICQ: 388332790

01-07-2007, 08:57 AM	#47
Big_Red Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Do you care? Posts: 4,147	Ok, a mentor would really help me out right now. If anyone is up to taking me on, I am game. yeh yeh I know, call me unsuccessful. __________________ 60% Revshare. http://www.boobycash.com We got the boobs and the cash! ICQ 198-580-197 24/7 support

01-07-2007, 09:39 AM	#49
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Taking the opening post of this thread at face value, what you are proposing is what I suggest from time to time that sponsors should be doing. So how can hardly I disagree with your intentions. In the broader context, I also often argue that the unwillingness of people in this industry to share useful information is grossly inefficient because it means we all end up spending large amounts of time, money and energy, re-inventing the same wheels. Further, very few people even attempt to develop themselves professionally, but just climb on the same treadmill each morning to face more of the same-old, same-old. Not only is that ultimately mind numbing, but financially it means you are creating your own ceiling and walls. It wouldn't even have been possible to start out this way except for a huge excess of demand over supply and no matter how much you used to make or are making now, without the ablity to recognize the need for change and adapting to it, your future is limited. There are two problems which usually prevent such schemes reaching their potential for all involved. The first is simple greed: the person behind the scheme wants to hit the ground running, so instead of actually taking people with unproven potential, tries to grab those with proven potential. Which makes sense until you consider that such people in most cases are unlikely to want, need or appreciate the kind of help which can be passed along. However if someone runs this in a way which might work, then there is the reality that it is near impossible to meet people face to face in an effort to establish whether they (and you) would benefit. I would guess that over the years I made good choices with my employees better than 80% of the time. But heaven knows what that percentage would have dropped to if my only contact with them were by email or ICQ, or even by 'phone. And that leaves you facing the problem that time dictates you can only deal with a relatively small number of people at once. If - I would say inevitably - a high percentage turn out to be a waste of time, you have a possible problem. In other words, such schemes don't have to be scams, but nor are they likely to achieve a great deal without some careful thought.

01-07-2007, 09:42 AM	#50
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Based on my lifestyle and my needs, I do very well and consider myself successful, but want to take it to the next level. If someone making a million a year or more (net) wants to mentor me, I'm waiting for you with open arms...