Website membership fees - GoFuckYourself.com

emjay · 01-07-2007, 06:00 AM

Several people have commented that our payouts for passwords sold in Brasil, Russia, India, China & Co. are too low ($0.50)

However, if you calculate the cost to the surfer on a pro-rata basis, the average monthly credit card subscription costs him about a dollar a day.

Therefore, the access time you grant surfers should be adjusted accordingly. Most webmasters actually give 30 minutes access per password sold.

$0.50 might not sound like much, but it is better than $0.00. Remember, the web is a global medium - and most people worldwide do not have a credit card.

How else can you make money 'made in China'?

Klen · 06-03-2007, 03:22 PM

no idea,looks like this is best solution ;)

tranza · 06-03-2007, 03:41 PM

How many threads are you going to be starting about this topic every day?

Silly Guy · 06-03-2007, 04:16 PM

I did a test signup using your system from germany...

I was surprised that after i hung on the line for about 6 minutes to receive the login and at the same time spending roughly 12 euros I was only allowed access to the members area for a very short time.

my question is: what are the variables for the sites using your service?

can they choose from offering 30 minutes to 24 hours etc.?

this seemed very unclear during the payment process...

I think that many users might feel cheated and probably won't want
to repeat that experience in the future...

CuriousToyBoy · 06-03-2007, 04:26 PM

CuriousCash and RevshareRewards both use PasswordByPhone and give webmasters full credit for all sales through MPA3.

Working a treat for all concerned.

2c

emjay · 06-03-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Guy

I did a test signup using your system from germany...

I was surprised that after i hung on the line for about 6 minutes to receive the login and at the same time spending roughly 12 euros I was only allowed access to the members area for a very short time.

my question is: what are the variables for the sites using your service?

can they choose from offering 30 minutes to 24 hours etc.?

this seemed very unclear during the payment process...

I think that many users might feel cheated and probably won't want
to repeat that experience in the future...

Hi Sillyguy

How much access time you grant us up to you.

Some webmasters stick to the default timeout of 30 minutes, others give longer (usually 24 hours).

Some webmasters make is crystal clear to the surfer what awaits them eg http://www.belamionline.com/ccregister/pbpregister.asp - others don't.

Buy "buying time" this way surfer can relax whilst enjoying the content, knowing the the billing clock is no longer ticking.

If your content is compelling enough, the chances are good that he will 'come back for more' (pun intented) next time he feels that way inclined - not least since you gave him the option not to commit to a monthly subscription in the first place...

Silly Guy · 06-03-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

Hi Sillyguy

How much access time you grant us up to you.

Some webmasters stick to the default timeout of 30 minutes, others give longer (usually 24 hours).

Some webmasters make is crystal clear to the surfer what awaits them eg http://www.belamionline.com/ccregister/pbpregister.asp - others don't.

Buy "buying time" this way surfer can relax whilst enjoying the content, knowing the the billing clock is no longer ticking.

If your content is compelling enough, the chances are good that he will 'come back for more' (pun intented) next time he feels that way inclined - not least since you gave him the option not to commit to a monthly subscription in the first place...

Thanks that made things clearer...

but do the sites also get the option to choose of how long they have the customer on the phone/total they bill them...that would make it interesting...

no doubt your service is great... but i do think you should add the total access time that the user receives on the page with your billing number...to make your service even more trustworthy

emjay · 06-04-2007, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Guy

Thanks that made things clearer...

but do the sites also get the option to choose of how long they have the customer on the phone/total they bill them...that would make it interesting...

no doubt your service is great... but i do think you should add the total access time that the user receives on the page with your billing number...to make your service even more trustworthy

We do not dictate the cost of getting the password, the phone companies worldwide do - which is why the costs of aquiring the password (and payouts to the webmaster) vary from country to country.

I take on board your comments about access time transparency to the surfer and will take measures to address this.

Vielen Dank!

BucksMania · 06-04-2007, 01:35 AM

mm i guess ill give it a try again

Violetta · 06-04-2007, 05:34 AM

I might give it a try when I have my new membersarea ready!

Silly Guy · 06-04-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

I take on board your comments about access time transparency to the surfer and will take measures to address this.

Vielen Dank!

that'd be a great step..i'm curious to see what might happen

emjay · 06-04-2007, 05:40 PM

I think that Hotmovies summarize the shift in membership business-model very elloquently in their "Memo" to all webmasters that you will have seen in the adult print media.

An excerpt:

"We have to be blunt. It's time to wake up!

Most of your customers do NOT want to join membership websites.

While they can preview text and photos that tease them into joining, most sign-ups only stay for a month or two and then cancel.

Some customers forget to cancel so the membership site earns a month or two of additional revenue that may bring in another $20-$40 per sign up. This model - requiring a miniumum number of sign-ups each month just to break even - is fading. The proof in is how many affiliate programs no longer advertise or remain in business.

Each month, more and more new companies are jumping onto the VOD and pay-per-minute Billing Bandwagon. This is a welcome sign since it grows the entire market. Every day, it makes thousands of additional Internet users aware of micro billing and the revolutionary new way to view adult content online."

dcortez · 06-11-2007, 10:42 AM

The issue of incredibly (relatively) smaller ticket prices was my main obstacle to trying PbP, but I was forgetting a couple things:

1) Instead of $29.95 (avg) for 30 days of grinding my server's resources/bandwidth, 50 cents for 30 minutes is not bad. On the other end, $10 for 30 minutes (Austria) is pretty good return for a quickie.

2) Lesser costs mean lesser risks of dissatisfaction/chargebacks by customer and higher conversions.

3) "Rebills" are entirely possible (customer initiated call backs) and TOTALLY up to the quality of the paysite.

4) Commercial online access to Eastern Europe, and Asia has never been safer.

Barefootsies · 06-11-2007, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

How many threads are you going to be starting about this topic every day?

emjay · 07-06-2007, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Guy

I did a test signup using your system from germany...

I was surprised that after i hung on the line for about 6 minutes to receive the login and at the same time spending roughly 12 euros I was only allowed access to the members area for a very short time.

my question is: what are the variables for the sites using your service?

can they choose from offering 30 minutes to 24 hours etc.?

this seemed very unclear during the payment process...

Hi SillyGuy, "Danke" for your input

- we will be adding additional pictorial banners like this one to make it clearer to surfers:

johannes · 07-06-2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

I did a test signup using your system from germany...

I was surprised that after i hung on the line for about 6 minutes to receive the login and at the same time spending roughly 12 euros I was only allowed access to the members area for a very short time.

my question is: what are the variables for the sites using your service?

can they choose from offering 30 minutes to 24 hours etc.?

this seemed very unclear during the payment process...

I think that many users might feel cheated and probably won't want
to repeat that experience in the future...

my words ...

Barefootsies · 07-06-2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

How many threads are you going to be starting about this topic every day?

LB-69 · 07-06-2007, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

Several people have commented that our payouts for passwords sold in Brasil, Russia, India, China & Co. are too low ($0.50)

However, if you calculate the cost to the surfer on a pro-rata basis, the average monthly credit card subscription costs him about a dollar a day.

Therefore, the access time you grant surfers should be adjusted accordingly. Most webmasters actually give 30 minutes access per password sold.

$0.50 might not sound like much, but it is better than $0.00. Remember, the web is a global medium - and most people worldwide do not have a credit card.

How else can you make money 'made in China'?

I talked to someone that uses PbP on his pay site, he said Chinese not using that service. Any particular reason?

Elli · 07-06-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

I take on board your comments about access time transparency to the surfer and will take measures to address this.

Vielen Dank!

Now that's a good business!

emjay · 07-06-2007, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB-69

I talked to someone that uses PbP on his pay site, he said Chinese not using that service. Any particular reason?

It could be that they are blocked from China - ask him/her to go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org to check if they are.

01-07-2007, 06:00 AM	#1
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	Website membership fees Several people have commented that our payouts for passwords sold in Brasil, Russia, India, China & Co. are too low ($0.50) However, if you calculate the cost to the surfer on a pro-rata basis, the average monthly credit card subscription costs him about a dollar a day. Therefore, the access time you grant surfers should be adjusted accordingly. Most webmasters actually give 30 minutes access per password sold. $0.50 might not sound like much, but it is better than $0.00. Remember, the web is a global medium - and most people worldwide do not have a credit card. How else can you make money 'made in China'? __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

06-03-2007, 03:41 PM	#3
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	How many threads are you going to be starting about this topic every day? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-03-2007, 04:26 PM	#5
CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	CuriousCash and RevshareRewards both use PasswordByPhone and give webmasters full credit for all sales through MPA3. Working a treat for all concerned. 2c __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

06-04-2007, 05:34 AM	#10
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I might give it a try when I have my new membersarea ready! __________________ M&A Queen

06-04-2007, 05:40 PM	#12
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	I think that Hotmovies summarize the shift in membership business-model very elloquently in their "Memo" to all webmasters that you will have seen in the adult print media. An excerpt: "We have to be blunt. It's time to wake up! Most of your customers do NOT want to join membership websites. While they can preview text and photos that tease them into joining, most sign-ups only stay for a month or two and then cancel. Some customers forget to cancel so the membership site earns a month or two of additional revenue that may bring in another $20-$40 per sign up. This model - requiring a miniumum number of sign-ups each month just to break even - is fading. The proof in is how many affiliate programs no longer advertise or remain in business. Each month, more and more new companies are jumping onto the VOD and pay-per-minute Billing Bandwagon. This is a welcome sign since it grows the entire market. Every day, it makes thousands of additional Internet users aware of micro billing and the revolutionary new way to view adult content online." __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

06-03-2007, 03:22 PM	#2
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	no idea,looks like this is best solution ;)

06-03-2007, 04:16 PM	#4
Silly Guy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,421	I did a test signup using your system from germany... I was surprised that after i hung on the line for about 6 minutes to receive the login and at the same time spending roughly 12 euros I was only allowed access to the members area for a very short time. my question is: what are the variables for the sites using your service? can they choose from offering 30 minutes to 24 hours etc.? this seemed very unclear during the payment process... I think that many users might feel cheated and probably won't want to repeat that experience in the future...

06-04-2007, 01:35 AM	#9
BucksMania Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,758	mm i guess ill give it a try again

06-11-2007, 10:42 AM	#13
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	The issue of incredibly (relatively) smaller ticket prices was my main obstacle to trying PbP, but I was forgetting a couple things: 1) Instead of $29.95 (avg) for 30 days of grinding my server's resources/bandwidth, 50 cents for 30 minutes is not bad. On the other end, $10 for 30 minutes (Austria) is pretty good return for a quickie. 2) Lesser costs mean lesser risks of dissatisfaction/chargebacks by customer and higher conversions. 3) "Rebills" are entirely possible (customer initiated call backs) and TOTALLY up to the quality of the paysite. 4) Commercial online access to Eastern Europe, and Asia has never been safer. Last edited by dcortez; 06-11-2007 at 10:43 AM.. Reason: sp