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MrChips · 01-09-2007, 11:18 AM

Guys,

I need a method or program which will hide links from the SE's.

I want site A to link to site B, however I need the following to be true -

1) No spider can follow the link from A to B because it does not see it at all - spiders see neither the link, or therefore any reference to site B.
2) The link is viewable by the visitor to site A, and also when clicked, the user is taken to site B.
3) Potentially, I would like to pass site B a parameter....

Any help or advice appreciated.
Cheer
MrChips

bareskin · 01-09-2007, 11:25 AM

very interesting bump for you

Adultnet · 01-09-2007, 11:32 AM

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fr0gman · 01-09-2007, 11:41 AM

Why not use Java to link from A to B.

borked · 01-09-2007, 11:45 AM

be very careful...

woj · 01-09-2007, 11:52 AM

just use javascript. document.write or something...

Adultnet · 01-09-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr0gman

Why not use Java to link from A to B.

The idea is not to have the url in any part of the page code the client gets.
I would say it will be best idea to keep the link on the server side till a surfer will want to get inside...

Scottish Guy · 01-09-2007, 11:56 AM

what about having the link on another server and have it in an iframe? or would that not work

Adultnet · 01-09-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultnet

The idea is not to have the url in any part of the page code the client gets.
I would say it will be best idea to keep the link on the server side till a surfer will want to get inside...

Only after the surfer will actually click the link, He would actually send a request to the server I guess over flash or over xml to load and receive a reply from the server with out having the page to refresh ( maybe even add anther page in the middle) ..

borked · 01-09-2007, 12:08 PM

just ajax it

MrChips · 01-09-2007, 12:41 PM

Would it be possible to do something along a very basic cloaking line.
Check the useragent and if its NOT IE (Im not arsed about firefox or any other browser) - then serve up a page to the requestor (MSNBOT, GoogleBot or whatever) without outgoing links - if it IS IE - then serve up a page to the user WITH the outgoing links on it.

Do the fucking engines ever try and request pages and present themselves as something they are not?

scouser · 01-09-2007, 01:26 PM

As others have said:
Use a JS link

Or ...
On site a, link it to redirect.php. If the referrer comes from somewhere on site a, AND isn't msn/google/yahoo etc etc, redirect it to site b, otherwise display another message or something

OzMan · 01-09-2007, 02:24 PM

wouldn't rel="nofollow" be a quick and dirty solution?

I say dirty as apparently they do still follow occasionally just like robots.txt gets ignored sometimes

MrChips · 01-09-2007, 03:11 PM

JS - no - certain spiders actively hunt out java script links and that includes string builds and eval executes aswell.

"on site a link it to redirect" - no - absolutely NO links <href> or calls to Jscripts can be seen by the bots.

nofollow - can be seen by the spiders - essentially you are potentially telling them you have something to hide.

The bots are a LOT smarter than peeps think.

OzMan · 01-09-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips

...nofollow - can be seen by the spiders - essentially you are potentially telling them you have something to hide...

well.. officially you are telling them to ignore the link as you haven't explicitly approved it... anything else is rumor/paranoia

MrChips · 01-09-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

well.. officially you are telling them to ignore the link as you haven't explicitly approved it... anything else is rumor/paranoia

Whatever the solution is - it MUST not be on the page seen by the spiders.

I have zero trust in the engines.

StarkReality · 01-09-2007, 05:35 PM

The problem isn't hiding the link. It's identifying if it's a spider or visitor...googlebot doesn't always use "googlebot" as user agent, so the only safe way is by IP...end even that isn't 100% safe.

So, don't use it on a site you can't afford to be kicked by Google & Co.

Useful links for you would be: http://www.kloakit.com/ (includes a free bot IP list) and http://cloakingforums.com/

01-09-2007, 11:18 AM	#1
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	I need a script to........ Guys, I need a method or program which will hide links from the SE's. I want site A to link to site B, however I need the following to be true - 1) No spider can follow the link from A to B because it does not see it at all - spiders see neither the link, or therefore any reference to site B. 2) The link is viewable by the visitor to site A, and also when clicked, the user is taken to site B. 3) Potentially, I would like to pass site B a parameter.... Any help or advice appreciated. Cheer MrChips

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01-09-2007, 12:41 PM	#11
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Would it be possible to do something along a very basic cloaking line. Check the useragent and if its NOT IE (Im not arsed about firefox or any other browser) - then serve up a page to the requestor (MSNBOT, GoogleBot or whatever) without outgoing links - if it IS IE - then serve up a page to the user WITH the outgoing links on it. Do the fucking engines ever try and request pages and present themselves as something they are not?

01-09-2007, 01:26 PM	#12
scouser marketer. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: bcn Posts: 2,280	As others have said: Use a JS link Or ... On site a, link it to redirect.php. If the referrer comes from somewhere on site a, AND isn't msn/google/yahoo etc etc, redirect it to site b, otherwise display another message or something

01-09-2007, 02:24 PM	#13
OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	wouldn't rel="nofollow" be a quick and dirty solution? I say dirty as apparently they do still follow occasionally just like robots.txt gets ignored sometimes

01-09-2007, 03:11 PM	#14
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	JS - no - certain spiders actively hunt out java script links and that includes string builds and eval executes aswell. "on site a link it to redirect" - no - absolutely NO links <href> or calls to Jscripts can be seen by the bots. nofollow - can be seen by the spiders - essentially you are potentially telling them you have something to hide. The bots are a LOT smarter than peeps think.

01-09-2007, 05:35 PM	#17
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	The problem isn't hiding the link. It's identifying if it's a spider or visitor...googlebot doesn't always use "googlebot" as user agent, so the only safe way is by IP...end even that isn't 100% safe. So, don't use it on a site you can't afford to be kicked by Google & Co. Useful links for you would be: http://www.kloakit.com/ (includes a free bot IP list) and http://cloakingforums.com/