i'm sending tons of se traffic to sponers and i need your ideas - GoFuckYourself.com

gallerypost · 07-27-2002, 09:40 AM

Hey guys.

Well, i'm getting alot of celebriteis and general search engine traffic, i'm sending and most of the times i'm sending it directly to sponsers (there is a main html site with a warning, and when they click the enter they getting into the sponser's site).

Ofcurse that 99% not signing up and then this quality traffic going to hell.

So i thought to send them after that (if they didn't signup) to my tgp, or to other free site that they can bookmark...

Now, i need your ideas what is the best way to do it ?

If it a popup, so what kind of popup ?
Bcz if it'll be a regular popup 90% would just close it so again i lost that traffic, if it'll be an under popup.. so around 30% can find it before of my main site... see the tons of free stuff in there.. and forget about the main page which sending them to a pay sponser...

what are you ideas ?

B40 · 07-27-2002, 10:18 AM

4 Cents a blink link

gallerypost · 07-27-2002, 10:49 AM

Well, this is se traffic, so it wroth alot than 4 cent i think.... also i'm not trusting the ones who are paying per blind links.

My traffic converting really well.. so i have no reason to go to the blind links programmers....

I thought the best thing is to send them to a private tgp or free site of my own.... the only question is what is the best thing to do it....

there 2 important things :

1. i want to send only the ones who didn't signed, what i mean is that i don't want them to see the free site before of the pay site.

2. after they saw the pay site that didn't register, i want them to goto the free site, they must understand that it's really free and not just close the popup (if it will be a popup) and etc...

pr0 · 07-27-2002, 11:13 AM

I target my search engine traffic to tricams.com personally. I also use my excess traffic to bulk up my link list...or in your case your tgp. I suggest you start a cj for the extra traffic, that way your not giving them anything for free

gezzed · 07-27-2002, 11:18 AM

I think a good idea might be to send the traffic to a nice thumbnail gallery like page, where there are sample pictures and perhaps sample movies for the pay site.

Just as an example, here's the gallery I did for BigNaturals yesterday:

http://www2.cleanadulthost.com/amate...fany/index.htm
(quite basic I know, but it took like 5 minutes)

Go to the page, pretend you're a surfer...and then watch the sample movie clip. You're either reaching for your cock after that, or your credit card. Perhaps both, but you get the idea.

Now, if the person clicks through to the pay sponsor, it's pretty much out of your hands and you won't know if they signed up or not.

If, on the other hand, they close your page without clicking through to the pay sponsor, then you might try a fast loading text console with the word "FREE" very visible somewhere on the page advertising your free sponsors.

There is a way to do this in javascript, if the person is closing the window, hit them with an exit popup...but if they are clicking on a link of yours, no popup.

Hope this helps

yys · 07-27-2002, 11:21 AM

Why not build yourself a dirty hub and send them too that. This way you can filter them down through different niches and hopefully turn them into some sales. If they don't buy anything then send them off too your traffic pump so you can get some fresh surfers or send them to pop up hell

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Theo · 07-27-2002, 11:28 AM

gezzed, never send your SE traffic to free pics and movies, it will convert worse than anything.

hottshot · 07-27-2002, 11:36 AM

I send mine to banner farms with a pop up chain with the last exit to my traffic pump conversions are pretty good

Snake Doctor · 07-27-2002, 11:42 AM

3 Words

FULL PAGE ADS

Almost every one of your sponsors will have an FPA you can use that looks just like their tour. So send the traffic to the FPA and link the FPA to the sponsors join page (if the sponsor allows that)

If the surfer backs out or closes the window, pop the console, if they click through, let them go and sign up

I wouldn't pop the TGP right away though, I would pop a multi site FPA first, one of the text only ones so you'll be sure it fully loads before they close it. Give them more choices and let them filter themself. If they close that, then I would pop the site that you're trying to build bookmark traffic to.

Also, why not use target=_blank on your warning page AND on the FPA's and open the sponsor in a new window, so if the surfer decides he doesn't like where you sent him and closes that window, he still has your site open and may pick something else.

ldinternet · 07-27-2002, 11:45 AM

There are a few reasonable options...

1. If your sponsor allows it, load them in a frame so that you can launch your own blur consoles when a visitor enters, or exit consoles when a visitor leaves. If you're converting like 1:40 and getting $35 per trial, then this is the best option.

2. Send to an AVS of your own, where you can add your own email boxes to the tour, use blur and exit consoles, upsells (casino, toys, merchandise, 1-on-1, phonesex) in the member area ... and the promise of thousands of other sites does wonders. Standard AVS is good because they rules are less strict. Gold AVS will get the visitors access to other good quality sites rather than just banner farms with 30 pics, but the rules are more strict so upsells would have to be less harsh if exist at all. Sucks to sign up for a quality AVS with pics, video, chat, etc, to find out that the other 200,000 sites are just banner farms with 30 pics.

If you do decide to go for an AVS, try to go with one that has a recurring base rather than a $20 for the whole year deal. But remember that if your individual site doesn't have enough content to retain members alone, they may well cancel when or if they find out that the other 200k sites are just plain bad.

Using your own membership site, with the AVS, it is good to have all the extra chances of making a sale. Setting up as a small paysite is also an option, but then you have the problem is that you must have enough content to retain members without relying on the other sites as you'd have in an AVS -- which will be expensive. Also you'll be paying more for hosting (more content than an AVS), more for content, a cc processor %, and probably be paying for design and site security too. You'd also have the disadvantage of not being able to upsell anything and everything unlike a standard AVS.

If you can send yourself a steady 20 membersihps per day, then it is just about worth setting up your own paysite.

gallerypost · 07-27-2002, 12:32 PM

Hey guys... i already desided to which site i want to send this traffic, my prob is a tech prob, i need some tech ideas what to do, for which kind of popup, popunder and etc... to go for...

rule number 1 - the surfer must see at the begining only the pay site, and he will see the non pay site only if he desided not to pay.

rule number 2 - if the surfer will see the non pay site as a popup... he must understand in the first seconds that it's free so he wouldn't close it.

hahmike · 07-27-2002, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B40
4 Cents a blink link

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Theo · 07-27-2002, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

why are you laughing??? it's SE traffic! hehe

07-27-2002, 09:40 AM	#1
gallerypost Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 711	i'm sending tons of se traffic to sponers and i need your ideas Hey guys. Well, i'm getting alot of celebriteis and general search engine traffic, i'm sending and most of the times i'm sending it directly to sponsers (there is a main html site with a warning, and when they click the enter they getting into the sponser's site). Ofcurse that 99% not signing up and then this quality traffic going to hell. So i thought to send them after that (if they didn't signup) to my tgp, or to other free site that they can bookmark... Now, i need your ideas what is the best way to do it ? If it a popup, so what kind of popup ? Bcz if it'll be a regular popup 90% would just close it so again i lost that traffic, if it'll be an under popup.. so around 30% can find it before of my main site... see the tons of free stuff in there.. and forget about the main page which sending them to a pay sponser... what are you ideas ?

07-27-2002, 10:18 AM	#2
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	4 Cents a blink link __________________

07-27-2002, 11:13 AM	#4
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	I target my search engine traffic to tricams.com personally. I also use my excess traffic to bulk up my link list...or in your case your tgp. I suggest you start a cj for the extra traffic, that way your not giving them anything for free __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

07-27-2002, 11:36 AM	#8
hottshot Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 900	I send mine to banner farms with a pop up chain with the last exit to my traffic pump conversions are pretty good __________________ Love Dollars helps pay my bar tab Promote the highest converting sites in the industry with PussyCash

07-27-2002, 11:42 AM	#9
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	3 Words FULL PAGE ADS Almost every one of your sponsors will have an FPA you can use that looks just like their tour. So send the traffic to the FPA and link the FPA to the sponsors join page (if the sponsor allows that) If the surfer backs out or closes the window, pop the console, if they click through, let them go and sign up I wouldn't pop the TGP right away though, I would pop a multi site FPA first, one of the text only ones so you'll be sure it fully loads before they close it. Give them more choices and let them filter themself. If they close that, then I would pop the site that you're trying to build bookmark traffic to. Also, why not use target=_blank on your warning page AND on the FPA's and open the sponsor in a new window, so if the surfer decides he doesn't like where you sent him and closes that window, he still has your site open and may pick something else. __________________ sig too big

07-27-2002, 10:49 AM	#3
gallerypost Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 711	Well, this is se traffic, so it wroth alot than 4 cent i think.... also i'm not trusting the ones who are paying per blind links. My traffic converting really well.. so i have no reason to go to the blind links programmers.... I thought the best thing is to send them to a private tgp or free site of my own.... the only question is what is the best thing to do it.... there 2 important things : 1. i want to send only the ones who didn't signed, what i mean is that i don't want them to see the free site before of the pay site. 2. after they saw the pay site that didn't register, i want them to goto the free site, they must understand that it's really free and not just close the popup (if it will be a popup) and etc...

07-27-2002, 11:18 AM	#5
gezzed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 317	I think a good idea might be to send the traffic to a nice thumbnail gallery like page, where there are sample pictures and perhaps sample movies for the pay site. Just as an example, here's the gallery I did for BigNaturals yesterday: http://www2.cleanadulthost.com/amate...fany/index.htm (quite basic I know, but it took like 5 minutes) Go to the page, pretend you're a surfer...and then watch the sample movie clip. You're either reaching for your cock after that, or your credit card. Perhaps both, but you get the idea. Now, if the person clicks through to the pay sponsor, it's pretty much out of your hands and you won't know if they signed up or not. If, on the other hand, they close your page without clicking through to the pay sponsor, then you might try a fast loading text console with the word "FREE" very visible somewhere on the page advertising your free sponsors. There is a way to do this in javascript, if the person is closing the window, hit them with an exit popup...but if they are clicking on a link of yours, no popup. Hope this helps

07-27-2002, 11:21 AM	#6
yys Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,922	Why not build yourself a dirty hub and send them too that. This way you can filter them down through different niches and hopefully turn them into some sales. If they don't buy anything then send them off too your traffic pump so you can get some fresh surfers or send them to pop up hell .

07-27-2002, 11:28 AM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	gezzed, never send your SE traffic to free pics and movies, it will convert worse than anything.

07-27-2002, 11:45 AM	#10
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	There are a few reasonable options... 1. If your sponsor allows it, load them in a frame so that you can launch your own blur consoles when a visitor enters, or exit consoles when a visitor leaves. If you're converting like 1:40 and getting $35 per trial, then this is the best option. 2. Send to an AVS of your own, where you can add your own email boxes to the tour, use blur and exit consoles, upsells (casino, toys, merchandise, 1-on-1, phonesex) in the member area ... and the promise of thousands of other sites does wonders. Standard AVS is good because they rules are less strict. Gold AVS will get the visitors access to other good quality sites rather than just banner farms with 30 pics, but the rules are more strict so upsells would have to be less harsh if exist at all. Sucks to sign up for a quality AVS with pics, video, chat, etc, to find out that the other 200,000 sites are just banner farms with 30 pics. If you do decide to go for an AVS, try to go with one that has a recurring base rather than a $20 for the whole year deal. But remember that if your individual site doesn't have enough content to retain members alone, they may well cancel when or if they find out that the other 200k sites are just plain bad. Using your own membership site, with the AVS, it is good to have all the extra chances of making a sale. Setting up as a small paysite is also an option, but then you have the problem is that you must have enough content to retain members without relying on the other sites as you'd have in an AVS -- which will be expensive. Also you'll be paying more for hosting (more content than an AVS), more for content, a cc processor %, and probably be paying for design and site security too. You'd also have the disadvantage of not being able to upsell anything and everything unlike a standard AVS. If you can send yourself a steady 20 membersihps per day, then it is just about worth setting up your own paysite.

07-27-2002, 12:32 PM	#11
gallerypost Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 711	Hey guys... i already desided to which site i want to send this traffic, my prob is a tech prob, i need some tech ideas what to do, for which kind of popup, popunder and etc... to go for... rule number 1 - the surfer must see at the begining only the pay site, and he will see the non pay site only if he desided not to pay. rule number 2 - if the surfer will see the non pay site as a popup... he must understand in the first seconds that it's free so he wouldn't close it.