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bjlover

50 filthy old scammers called the butcher who run fake shitty forums with his partner lawrence conner

BigDeanEvans

sounds like the return of steve goldman

TheLegacy

they do seem to compliment one another very well - maybe in vegas we have to get them hooked up

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TheLegacy

no comment - don't want to have thebutcher start harassing me now as well

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Who knows anything solid about the butcher ? I heard him on some radio somewhere he claims to be a brit in canada who owns 4 gas stations and buys up tons of domains for selling on.Shame he never got in on the early dotcom frenzy in the early 90s or maybe he did.
WHats with the dirty old scammer bit is he really a old git?
I dont know much about lawrence connor is he a had been of the adult biz still trying a comeback?Someone said he is just some rich idle idiot who likes to play around on peoples sites.
Who knows a really good cheap supplier of content for content laden sites?

johnpr0n

Well im glad to see im not the only one scammed by this guy, last scammer i posted up - hoarder, people were defending him, till he left town with 6k of someone else's money.

Anyhow i am sorry i posted his board url here, but well who is actualy gonna say WOW im gonna go sign up and do some business there! I do of course understand you dont want other boards posted here.

And you butcher. Your lying through your teeth.

You told me you gave me a button - for what - ive told you MANY times i DONT have webmaster resource pages - you were supposed to PERM list my free sites trade url's in your resources thread.

You couldnt even tell me which site you put up this "button for"

You KNOW i sent you that traffic, thats why you have been ignoring me for the last month. It was only now when i started posting this up you had the balls to say something, and then you called me a moron and told me to fuck off.

One last thing - everyone is saying you dont go into mcdonals and complain about burger kind, thats a twisted statement.

The reason i am here telling people this, is becuase thier is no other option then to tell everyone about scammers in public places like this.

Burger king has to answer to consumer affairs, and currently thier is no goverment body for dealing with piece's of shit like this.

So the best i can do is tell everyone, and hope he cant fuck anyone else over.

By the looks of it he has scammed alot of poeple.. keep the replies coming

johnpr0n

I realy cant be bothered spending more time on this but i just read thebutchers reply here, and i would like to point out the lies, it realy frustrates me.

LIE 1-
We did a link trade, you had your button and hard link on my board and toplist for 5 weeks, I contacted you many times on icq to tekk you after the 4th week I don't want to trade links with you, I left them up for another week. You never replied, when you did it was some story about icq not working or some story.

I have told this guy many times i didnt want spots on his board, as i DO NOT have a web masters resources page. I was supposed to be given a sticky spot on his board for my free sites, for the traffic trade parts.

Second, i have been trying to contact you for weeks on icq, and then YOU TELL ME YOUR ICQ ISNT WORKING.

LIE 2-
You even posted that on my board, but unlike you I'm not goingt o put the thread url here. I play by the terms of memebrship on gfy. No posting other boards here. Anyone wants the link icq me.

I posted an original thread on your board, not a link to a thread here. I posted on your board first. After i posted that thread, i sent you the url on icq - within 2 seconds - before you replied to me on icq, the thread was deleted FROM YOUR BOARD.

LIE 3-
You have been badgering me for a free banner on my board forever, I told you on many occassions I don't do any free banner deals. Every banner is paid for.

LOL - you have asked me like 10 times to buy spots on your board, and as i have said EVERY TIME - i DONT HAVE A WEBMASTERS RESOURCE PAGE. Why the hell do i need a banner on your site, to advertise a TGP?

LIE 4-
I never asked to buy traffic dude, I did a link trade, yes you joined the toplist, sent in some hits and got back some. There never was a traffic purchase don't make up stories.

I remember very clearly, you telling me how you asked a traffic broker to credit you some traffic, and he said no. I thought since you owned a wm board you would be good to do business with, so i kept sending it for a month.

LIE 5-
I always answe my messages unlike you, you came to me in November asking for some cash I tld you then that what was I paying for? You said you sent some traffic to the toplist , I told you then good, but where you dreamed up the traffic was a purchase beats me. You started again this morning harrassing me on icq if I could pay you $100 then it was $80 I told you what am I supposed to be paying for. You never did reply.

As i mentioned above, i tried contacting you for more then a month, and never got an answer. Last night i only got an answer from you when i started posting this up on boards.

LIE 6-
You came to my board wrote a bunch of profanities and a link to this thread. I don't allow links to other boards and it's clearly on the FAQ page, I deleted the link, you decided to repost the message over and over again, so I decided to ban you and stop the childish behaviour.

As i said above - again - i made an original post on your board, i DID NOT link to this thread - and 2 mins after i sent you the url to the thread on your board it was deleted - and you also told me - "the moderators will delete what they see fit" - What a load of shit, you got called out for scamming so you deleted the thread.

And so what if i am using a yahoo email address, i dont have a registered traffic brokering company. I sell people traffic from my own sites. I have never fucked anyone over, and i never will.

Your finished butcher, look how many people have stories to tell about you, or are they all wrong, making up fairly tales huh?

bjlover

Everyone knows the butcher is a scammer and he is the joke of the adult internet community. That fake forum was his first site and he thought the best way to build it was to be a liar and a cheat from the begining. He has never changed. The only reason he can get away with it is because anytime anyone exposes his latest scam, he just hides and pretends it doesnt happen.
The only thing I find shocking is that there are any webmasters out there who havnt heard of this dirty old scamming retard

emthree

People come here for the community... not the brand. The community is what makes this place active. IMO by not allowing public awareness is just as bad as supporting this scammer.

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badmunchkin

If you're on a message board for Burger King and want to complain about awful service at Mcdonalds, hell yes, it makes perfect sense and probably has even happened altho I don't frequent fast food forums but I wouldn't be surprised - rules of the game are different online

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JimBarnett

I feel the same way urb. We have been beating this dead horse for a long time now. But, I guess as years go by, new people need to be warned. Anyone that really wonders...go sign up to his board and ask him questions about his scamming. Your posts will get deleted and you will be banned. Perhaps by me saying this here, you might not get banned right away. That would only be good for the 10 members he has that can't see the light.

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NoWhErE

I thought The Butcher WAS LC..... I remember The Butcher adding me to ICQ and asking me to bump LC's shitty old threads and answering to threads for him

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JimBarnett

No, I can say definitively that he is not LC. I spoke to him on the phone before he even knew who LC was. And listening to him and then hearing LC, you know they are not the same person. While LC seems to have some problems, I don't think he has scammed anyone. I could be wrong about that but if he had, there would be more to say about him than he spams every board and his claim to fame is getting fucked in the ass.

Butcher just icq's people to keep the board going. Without prodding, not many people would post. Or for that matter, even become a member. There are a lot of threads from new people thanking the butcher for the invitation to post. And he started his board by spamming people at netpond through it's PM system asking them to post on his board.

Well, I think that's it for me regarding this scammer, for a while anyway.

Twisted Dave

I post there and so do some other names I've seen on other boards, so I don't really see how that's true...

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bjlover

Why would you want to post on a forum of a known scammer and cheat and liar, when any real webmasters wont?

Glad to see twisted Illustration is happy to support known cheats and scammers

bjlover

People need to keep being reminded. Otherwise we will constantly see these threads of new people being scammed.

He ran a competition last week for poster of the year. Members of his board contributed money. He bought back a fake nick (with a fake sig for Malcom, that instead of having a number had the ref ID "XXXXXX") and he made his fake nick Richard win, then in his usual style caused drama and banned him.

Sad thing is the 10 loosers or so who post there wouldnt even notice. He will be contacted them all on ICQ now telling them all its all lies. Shame they are to stupid to search any real forums about this scamming retard

The Ghost

There sure are alot of banned nicks in this thread.

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Violetta

I have 30 posts there and have been pretty close to doing biz with him...

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tenderobject

i don't think twisted is supporting cheats and scammer. are you ok man? do you post on GFY? do you know there are tons of scammer in this board and still they are here. lol i know one and i think someone supports them... this biz is hilarious!

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bjlover

Yes man, Im OK man, are you ok man?

Dont you know the difference between having members who may or may not be scammers and the actual forum owner being a known scammer?

If you support scammers, who have ripped of there own members and advertisers, then when you end up being scammed by someone you shouldnt start crying about it.

The only way to stop people scamming is not to do businesses with them. Not just when you feel like it.

Im glad you find it so funny Some of us dont. So dont come crying here next time you get scammed by some peice of shit like the butcher, as we all know how you feel about scammers

tenderobject

lol, yes for sure im ok. but i think you aren't. you need a glass. :P

of course i do. but your reply with twisted is rather twisted. look, even if a forum owner is a scammer or what not, it doesn't mean that if someone we're posting on his forum he is supporting the scumbag. theres a lot of factors there.. thats it. look at twisted post and your reply with his post. chill out.. i hate scammers as well!

thats true!

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zandre

yep , he did this exact thing to me his forum is a fucking scam

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Kinky John

LC just needs psychiatric help - period.
he's been milking his public buttfuck for way too long
moderately rich, stupid and bored . . his shit is played out.

regards the Butcher . . always civil . . never had beef . .
he asked me to advertise recently . . looked legit
just don't post there much because he promotes LC's crap

is "growers" really a Butcher fake nic btw ?

am i just another noob being groomed for a scam ?
it's not exactly Watergate over 100 bucks of traffic

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Twisted Dave

No offence, but coming here as a new poster and having a go at me is pretty pointless. I've done business with MANY people here, and I don't think they'd agree with you... and I take massive offence to you trying to tell the board that we supoort scamming and cheats.

I think you should make an apology. I really don't think you have any grounds to attack me (and indirectly my clients because of what you said).

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bjlover

Anyone who comes to a real webmaster forum to support a known scammer is either to stupid to do business with or is just happy to support scammers

Why would you want to post on a forum of a known scammer and cheat and liar, when any real webmasters wont?

Glad to see twisted Illustration is happy to support known cheats and scammers

bjlover

LOl do a search on any "real" webmaster forum. Do a search on Google. Have a look at his fake forum, see anyone worth advertising to?

No real webmasters post there, apart from his fake nicks he uses to win his fake competitions and those who havnt been scammed by him yet.

Good luck paying to advertise to Russians, fake nicks and Lawrence conner

topshelfdesign

i wasg going to buy some button space on his board, glad i didnt now, he always seemed an alright guy with me!

kreepin

Ive heard a few people in this thread say something like - why would you go into burger king and complain about mcdonalds.

Whoever said that, sorry to say, i am guessing your a bit slow in the head.

Thats probably the worst analogy i have ever heard, realy.

In THIS industry - the ONLINE ADULT INDUSTRY - thier is no corporate watch dog, its not monitored by anyone.

So webmasters must tell everyone about scammers, so people know. Thats all john was trying to do.

If he had a problem with mcdonalds, he could contact the GOVERMENT controlled watchdog for that particular industry.

But as said above, we do not currently have this, in this industry.

So what john did was totaly appropriate.

Also, johnpr0n got banned for this thread. Thats pretty fair isnt it, hes been here for nearly 4 years, is a great guy to do business with, and some mod bans him for helping everyone out?

Maybe its just me, but i think thats kinda sad...

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