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Forest · 02-26-2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Let me turn this the other way around.

Porn sites are forbidden in China. Could the Chinese Goverment arrest you because you have a porn site accessible from China?

No they could not, because you live in the US and US laws apply.

They could, and do, ban your site from Chinese access.

umm the chinese could and might arrest you if you step onto chinese soil

look at what the us did to the owners of neteller

Forest · 02-26-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Lol, are you for real???

So you think that the US goverment can throw you in jail for breaking their laws, even though you live on another country??

ummm once again

NETELLER

Forest · 02-26-2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

No I'm not. For example, there's no law here in Brazil about 2257 documents (2257 is an american law).

So if the FBI knocked on my door, here in Sao Paulo, asking for 2257 documents I could tell them to go fuck themselves, they could never arrest me.

What they could do is take my sites down if they were hosted on american servers, or even ban my sites from the US (which is easily done).

no b ut what they can do i put your name on a us immigration watch list and when u apply for a visa or they sacn you passporte at a us airport arrest you on the spot if they truly wish to

dr. Gonzo · 02-27-2007, 03:01 AM

Acceptable alternatives to Epassporte, anyone?

maddox · 02-27-2007, 05:22 AM

this thread is here for 2 days already and I think this is extremely suspicious that epass does not respond, I demand a statement from epassporte as their client

cranki · 02-27-2007, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

this thread is here for 2 days already and I think this is extremely suspicious that epass does not respond, I demand a statement from epassporte as their client

What's suspicious about it? It's their company policy...

Naja-ram · 02-27-2007, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

this thread is here for 2 days already and I think this is extremely suspicious that epass does not respond, I demand a statement from epassporte as their client

you demand ? it's in their contract you signed up with them to join every thread about epass on GFY ? haha what an idiot !

VicD · 02-27-2007, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i get my $ out just as fast as it goes in

maddox · 02-27-2007, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki

What's suspicious about it? It's their company policy...

It's company policy to do not comment on stuff that could cause big payment system to close down? DO you even understand what epassporte is? It is financial services where the image, reputation and client trust are the most important factors. I think a closing down of epassporte with all it's clients loosing money would be the biggest scandal and drama in history of gfy

Pete-KT · 02-27-2007, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Errr.... They are not an US company, US laws don't apply.

Are you guys dumb or what?

Err have you heard of US banks not allowing transfer to and from them? thats what is happeneing right now which is not allowing people to pay affiliates out.

Forest · 02-27-2007, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

I demand a statement from epassporte as their client

maddox · 02-27-2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

Whats so funny about it I don't understand. Imagine your bank doing illegal stuff, the bank where you keep some money at, would you like to hear a clarification from them? I would.

cranki · 02-27-2007, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

It's company policy to do not comment on stuff that could cause big payment system to close down? DO you even understand what epassporte is? It is financial services where the image, reputation and client trust are the most important factors. I think a closing down of epassporte with all it's clients loosing money would be the biggest scandal and drama in history of gfy

So what, they have a defacto monopoly... and if a company like that goes down, it'll be just another ibill...

Forest · 02-27-2007, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

Whats so funny about it I don't understand. Imagine your bank doing illegal stuff, the bank where you keep some money at, would you like to hear a clarification from them? I would.

what is so funny is you DEMANDING something from a company any company because thats what YOU want

sorry but it doesnt work that way

Lucky_Shark · 02-27-2007, 08:49 AM

I wonder was last epass glitches with nulling balance connected with it?

gleem · 02-27-2007, 08:59 AM

Chase bank accounts can't load money into Epass anymore, they said "because they are gambling related" but at the same time I can use my Chase credit card to load an account.

Bank of America has no problem loading yet either. *fingerz crossed*

anyone have a list of banks that banned Epass?

Forest · 02-27-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr. Gonzo

Acceptable alternatives to Epassporte, anyone?

western union

Farout · 02-27-2007, 09:10 AM

how beautiful the world would be without the US !!

Forest · 02-27-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farout

how beautiful the world would be without the US !!

idiot

Forest · 02-27-2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem

Chase bank accounts can't load money into Epass anymore, they said "because they are gambling related" but at the same time I can use my Chase credit card to load an account.

Bank of America has no problem loading yet either. *fingerz crossed*

anyone have a list of banks that banned Epass?

thats prob because your CC is a visa/mc and they have yet to block transactions to epass.

its easier for a bank to block wires to them then for visa mc

blofer80 · 02-27-2007, 09:19 AM

oh no.....

3xTom · 02-27-2007, 09:26 AM

Our bank Is investigating us personally ...we are in no danger as of yet but they are investigating because we transfer alot of money into epass to pay the affilaites with... Heads up we may have to stop paying via epass sometime soon but not sure yet...

Tom

crockett · 02-27-2007, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Errr.... They are not an US company, US laws don't apply.

Are you guys dumb or what?

Umm yea like netteller was a US company. Did you miss that they were arrested?

Epass is being very irresponsible with a lot of people money. They will end up going down if they continue to take money from American customers for gambling.

I don't like the law and I think it's BS, but the writing is on the wall, if Epass can't see it they will end up going down.

Wolfy · 02-27-2007, 09:28 AM

to put the "us laws don't apply to foreign entities" train of thought into perspective:

Any country can go to any other country and appeal for a warrant to arrest one of their citizens. The country can deny...

But do you really think your country is going to defend you against a request that the US might make?

In summary - it doesn't matter where you live. If you do business in the US, you can and might be held accountable to US laws. If any of your income is generated from or paid out from the US, you are doing business in the US. Feel free to cover your ears and "La-la-la-la" your way right into federal prison, though.

:D

Agent 488 · 02-27-2007, 09:31 AM

quit with the logic, ok?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfy

to put the "us laws don't apply to foreign entities" train of thought into perspective:

Any country can go to any other country and appeal for a warrant to arrest one of their citizens. The country can deny...

But do you really think your country is going to defend you against a request that the US might make?

In summary - it doesn't matter where you live. If you do business in the US, you can and might be held accountable to US laws. If any of your income is generated from or paid out from the US, you are doing business in the US. Feel free to cover your ears and "La-la-la-la" your way right into federal prison, though.

:D

pornguy · 02-27-2007, 09:31 AM

that is the first I have hared, but will most likely not be sending much through epass any more. Dont want to risk the money.

Wolfy · 02-27-2007, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

quit with the logic, ok?

sorry 'bout that.

u-Bob · 02-27-2007, 09:53 AM

I love epass but it does look like they are abandoning ship... why else would they continue to take gambling money...

DamageX · 02-27-2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

It's company policy to do not comment on stuff that could cause big payment system to close down? DO you even understand what epassporte is? It is financial services where the image, reputation and client trust are the most important factors. I think a closing down of epassporte with all it's clients loosing money would be the biggest scandal and drama in history of gfy

You obviously haven't heard of iBill...

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I love epass but it does look like they are abandoning ship... why else would they continue to take gambling money...

Maybe Chris Mallick has a secret fantasy of hooking up with a guy named Bubba, while dropping the soap in the shower?

Sysgenix · 02-27-2007, 12:07 PM

Interesting as to how we haven't had a comment anywhere from Epass including their site to say. "Everything is up and up, we are doing business and improving these issues." Lack of releases is daunting.

Agent 488 · 02-27-2007, 12:12 PM

dready · 02-27-2007, 12:14 PM

ePass has sold us out.

UP IN Smoke · 02-27-2007, 01:29 PM

Like usually most of you guys talk about shit you have know idea about! You all talk like you know what you are talking about. Just to fill you in. It is illegal for any company to take money from a US citizen for the purpose of gaming. No matter where in the world your company in located! The banking system is controlled by the US. So they make the rules. Like it or leave it. It is the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. It is only a matter of time before the US government catches up with Epassporte and all of their top guys for taking on gaming! They should have stayed in the adult game and offered better services to their clients! END OF STORY!!!!!!

Forest · 02-27-2007, 01:32 PM

I dont know if this has anything to do with the gambling issue but I just got this from WebCamCash

--------------------------------------------
Managers

We would like to advise that epassporte seems to be having some serious problems
with their payment system. For those of you that use epassporte as a method of
payment, we are completely unable to make any guarantees that payments for Feb
16-28 will be effective by that method.

We simply have no control over their system and have been unable to receive any
information as to when the problems will be fixed.

We are providing all studios with an opportunity to provide us with alternative
methods of payments. If you would like to provide cheque or wire transfer
information in order to guarantee your payment will reach you in a timely
manner, it is important that you do so before the end of the day on February 28.

We would ask that you submit any such changes using the Edit Profile function on
or before February 28, 2007. If you submit such changes and they have not been
approved, please contact me by ICQ to confirm.

If not, it will be necessary to wait and see what happens with epassporte.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Karen
WebcamCash Talent
[email protected]
ICQ 312-341-627

Thee Johnclave · 02-27-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfy

Feel free to cover your ears and "La-la-la-la" your way right into federal prison, though.

:D

Looks like someone is aware of their surroundings.

dready · 02-27-2007, 02:22 PM

An ePass rep gave me the following response:

About gambling.

There is nothing in our business model there is against any US law.
We have not and will not ever break any US law.

chupacabra · 02-27-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

An ePass rep gave me the following response:

About gambling.

There is nothing in our business model there is against any US law.
We have not and will not ever break any US law.

roflmfao.

i got all my funds out of epassporte a month ago now after their refusal to address the risks to my money from their ventures into the gaming industry. i guess they are finally addressing the issue, lol..

beemk · 02-27-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Errr.... They are not an US company, US laws don't apply.

Are you guys dumb or what?

you aren't a lawyer familiar with us laws, stop pretending to be.

Damian_Maxcash · 02-27-2007, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UP IN Smoke

.....it is illegal for any company to take money from a US citizen for the purpose of gaming.......

Complete trash - It is illegal for any US financial organisation.

If they are willing to face sanction by the US any non-US company can do what they please within the laws in its own country.

Forest · 02-27-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Complete trash - It is illegal for any US financial organisation.

If they are willing to face sanction by the US any non-US company can do what they please within the laws in its own country.

actually you may be wrong but only time will tell once the neteller guys go to court

It IS Illegal in the us for ANY company to facilitate financial transactions for US citizens to gamble with. Doesnt matter what country the company is in

Damian_Maxcash · 02-27-2007, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

actually you may be wrong but only time will tell once the neteller guys go to court

It IS Illegal in the us for ANY company to facilitate financial transactions for US citizens to gamble with. Doesnt matter what country the company is in

Its really just semantics.....

The Neteller guys were doing something that was illegal in the US, but not in their own country - as far as I remember they were stupid and went to the States were they where comiting a crime.

Forest · 02-27-2007, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Its really just semantics.....

The Neteller guys were doing something that was illegal in the US, but not in their own country - as far as I remember they were stupid and went to the States were they where comiting a crime.

your correct. If you do somehting that is illegal in the states you should not plan a layover here.

I mean you dont see the cali drug kingpins on layovers in the states?

The Duck · 02-27-2007, 06:14 PM

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FetiXXX · 02-27-2007, 06:22 PM

I wouldnt leave me money in there either, why would you anyway?
Withdraw it as fast as possible.

u-Bob · 02-28-2007, 08:02 AM

Damian_Maxcash · 02-28-2007, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

your correct. If you do somehting that is illegal in the states you should not plan a layover here.

I mean you dont see the cali drug kingpins on layovers in the states?

lol - I just caught the irony.....

Tickler · 02-28-2007, 08:30 AM

And the kicker is that some programs started charging for checks to force people to the ePass option.

Forest · 02-28-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

lol - I just caught the irony.....

geedub · 02-28-2007, 09:56 AM

FullTilt uses epassporte too... Good thing I hate epass and quit gambling online.. lol

geedub · 02-28-2007, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

your correct. If you do somehting that is illegal in the states you should not plan a layover here.

I mean you dont see the cali drug kingpins on layovers in the states?

good point for sure, lol

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02-27-2007, 08:49 AM	#65
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02-27-2007, 09:28 AM	#74
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02-27-2007, 01:29 PM	#83
UP IN Smoke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 58	Like usually most of you guys talk about shit you have know idea about! You all talk like you know what you are talking about. Just to fill you in. It is illegal for any company to take money from a US citizen for the purpose of gaming. No matter where in the world your company in located! The banking system is controlled by the US. So they make the rules. Like it or leave it. It is the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. It is only a matter of time before the US government catches up with Epassporte and all of their top guys for taking on gaming! They should have stayed in the adult game and offered better services to their clients! END OF STORY!!!!!!

02-27-2007, 01:32 PM	#84
Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,980	I dont know if this has anything to do with the gambling issue but I just got this from WebCamCash -------------------------------------------- Managers We would like to advise that epassporte seems to be having some serious problems with their payment system. For those of you that use epassporte as a method of payment, we are completely unable to make any guarantees that payments for Feb 16-28 will be effective by that method. We simply have no control over their system and have been unable to receive any information as to when the problems will be fixed. We are providing all studios with an opportunity to provide us with alternative methods of payments. If you would like to provide cheque or wire transfer information in order to guarantee your payment will reach you in a timely manner, it is important that you do so before the end of the day on February 28. We would ask that you submit any such changes using the Edit Profile function on or before February 28, 2007. If you submit such changes and they have not been approved, please contact me by ICQ to confirm. If not, it will be necessary to wait and see what happens with epassporte. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. Sincerely, Karen WebcamCash Talent [email protected] ICQ 312-341-627

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