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Old 03-10-2007, 06:00 AM   #1
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Just finished reading Orwell's "Animal Farm"... jeez

Ever read it? Totally creepy. The US is headed in the same direction as the soviet union. . .
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:26 AM   #2
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Never did read it, but i'll give it a try...
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A must read for all. Understanding who the characters represent helps, though. ;)
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:52 AM   #4
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A must read for all. Understanding who the characters represent helps, though. ;)
ah it's not that hard to figure out what's going on, it happens in all countries/cultures from time to time

USA we're next !
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Every animal is equal but some are moe equal then others...
Its been a long time since I read i. About 20 years ago I would say. Fine book if you can analyse it.
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That's a good one. Did you ever see the TNT Original movie? It was great.
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Ever read it? Totally creepy. The US is headed in the same direction as the soviet union. . .
nah, the republicans won't allow us to slip into communism.
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nah, the republicans won't allow us to slip into communism.
read the book.
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nah, the republicans won't allow us to slip into communism.
is that meant to be a joke?
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you can't compare Curly and Moe to Trotsky and Stalin but some of those ideas, characters and situations .... yeah. How they butt raped evangelical Christians to gain power. How they have put the ENTIRE burden of this war on our poor young soldiers THEN SENT THEM TO THE GLUE FACTORY! Fat pigs in power... yeah some similarities there.

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A great novelist, and a great novel. I cant remember any of those rediculous animals names, but fuck was it an out there way of explaining the truth.
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Ever read it? Totally creepy. The US is headed in the same direction as the soviet union. . .
the same direction as the soviet union? meaning what? meaning that a well known criminal, previously exiled is going to start writing economic jibberish that has been proven wrong and impossible will blow back into town and try to stage a revolution, while the nation faces extreme poverty, economic collapse and after several disastrous military battles and smaller revolutions/protests causing the total and complete lack of confidence in the royal family, depose the royal family (ultimately executing them), seizing all property in the country, nationalizing all industry, jailing all political opponents... only to be succeeded by a murderous pyschopath who kills 40 million or so of his own people before taking over neighboring nations and starting the country down a path of a centrally, planned economy?

some of you people are just so sick in the head, its unbelievable.
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Congrats...we used to read that at school when i was 10.
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classic book. haven't read that since i was a kid. should probably check it out again. Different perspective so many years later.
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classic book. haven't read that since i was a kid. should probably check it out again. Different perspective so many years later.
nice insight. I might do the same, its only a short novel, and such a great eyeopener.
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Congrats...we used to read that at school when i was 10.
No kidding. I was thinking I read it in 1968.
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Reading it as a school assignment totally ruined that book for me. We talked about it in class for almost six months.
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Reading it as a school assignment totally ruined that book for me. We talked about it in class for almost six months.
yeah it happens to a lot of great books
read them in high school, have no idea what they are about, then take quizzes on who said what in each chapter.

I thought 1984 was the lamest book ever in high school, and I read it again last year (8 or 9 years later) and realized it's a jewel.

Same thing with Thoreau's Walden. I couldn't get past the 1st chapter in high school, now I read it like it's the freakin Bible.
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One of the better books I've read. I had a potbelly pig that I named "Napoleon". We called him Nappy.
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great expose of the totalitarian left.
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great expose of the totalitarian left.
get the fuck out of my thread you're a moron
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Wow, I remember reading that in Jr. high. Awesome book.
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Ever read it? Totally creepy. The US is headed in the same direction as the soviet union. . .
great book, read it like 6 years ago
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Thats one I have not read, but will grab it up asap.
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Orwell's "Animal Farm" is great book. so truly...
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is that meant to be a joke?
at your expense, yes.
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the same direction as the soviet union? meaning what? meaning that a well known criminal, previously exiled is going to start writing economic jibberish that has been proven wrong and impossible will blow back into town and try to stage a revolution, while the nation faces extreme poverty, economic collapse and after several disastrous military battles and smaller revolutions/protests causing the total and complete lack of confidence in the royal family, depose the royal family (ultimately executing them), seizing all property in the country, nationalizing all industry, jailing all political opponents... only to be succeeded by a murderous pyschopath who kills 40 million or so of his own people before taking over neighboring nations and starting the country down a path of a centrally, planned economy?

Some of you people are just so sick in the head, its unbelievable.
I think she means that we're heading toward a dictatorship, with all power collected in the executive branch, and you 'small government' conservatives are constantly trying to hurry the process up. You PATRIOT.

if u REALLY want to piss yourself off, conservatives, read 'The Jungle'.

If you want to know how you look to me, read 'The Collector'. You and your ilk are so much like Clegg it's spooky.

Animal Farm is one of those books that can change your life and make you a better person, like magic.
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great expose of the totalitarian left.
The Right wants you dead. Thank the Left for your existence.
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i don't know what propaganda outfit you get your information from son but it's only been the neocons and the christian zionists who have been sticking up for israel in this country asshole!!!!!

the left wants ISRAEL DEAD!!!

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I think she means that we're heading toward a dictatorship, with all power collected in the executive branch, and you 'small government' conservatives are constantly trying to hurry the process up. You PATRIOT.

if u REALLY want to piss yourself off, conservatives, read 'The Jungle'.

If you want to know how you look to me, read 'The Collector'. You and your ilk are so much like Clegg it's spooky.

Animal Farm is one of those books that can change your life and make you a better person, like magic.
you know nothing about me. i am far from a patriot. i've been around the globe and this is far from my favorite place in the world to be and i really dont care about democrats or republicans. i dont care who the next president is. i dont care if the economy implodes tomorrow. i will leave. i care about me. i am not going to dedicate my life to worrying about others and fighting a perpetual fight for my beliefs against others and theirs. life is too short. i plan to live it, enjoy my time and die.

you're more defensive about politics than Stalin.
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I think she means that we're heading toward a dictatorship, with all power collected in the executive branch, and you 'small government' conservatives are constantly trying to hurry the process up. You PATRIOT.

if u REALLY want to piss yourself off, conservatives, read 'The Jungle'.

If you want to know how you look to me, read 'The Collector'. You and your ilk are so much like Clegg it's spooky.

Animal Farm is one of those books that can change your life and make you a better person, like magic.
great post, read sinclairs the jungle about a year ago, it occurred to me that people were really really crooked 100 years ago just like they are now
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i really dont care about democrats or republicans. i dont care who the next president is. i dont care if the economy implodes tomorrow. i will leave. i care about me. i am not going to dedicate my life to worrying about others and fighting a perpetual fight for my beliefs against others and theirs. life is too short. i plan to live it, enjoy my time and die.
Then what's with all the posts on the subject?
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great post, read sinclairs the jungle about a year ago, it occurred to me that people were really really crooked 100 years ago just like they are now
I couldn't get through that book, it was way too depressing! The Land of the Free.
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i don't know what propaganda outfit you get your information from son but it's only been the neocons and the christian zionists who have been sticking up for israel in this country asshole!!!!!

the left wants ISRAEL DEAD!!!

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=2791
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I think you already know.

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Then what's with all the posts on the subject?
sometimes i enjoy making fun of others wildly imaginative, unrealistic, one sided and deeply flawed arguments. for me, its like mental exercise and entertainment combined. now that adwords is down for a couple more hours for maintenence, i will probably step it up a bit.
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Then what's with all the posts on the subject?
He's like TheKing or one of about two dozen others, he cries about being thought of as a right winger just because he bashes democrats and loves up on George Bush at every opportunity. How unfair of us huh?
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sometimes i enjoy making fun of others wildly imaginative, unrealistic, one sided and deeply flawed arguments. for me, its like mental exercise and entertainment combined. now that adwords is down for a couple more hours for maintenence, i will probably step it up a bit.
and sometimes you're just too scared to admit to being a right-winger, because you don't want to be thought of as stupid.

Just come out of the closet, you'll feel better in the morning.
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He's like TheKing or one of about two dozen others, he cries about being thought of as a right winger just because he bashes democrats and loves up on George Bush at every opportunity. How unfair of us huh?
and what are you like? you are simply the other side of the same coin and you embody all of those same traits you hate in others.

you are not talking politics... you are projecting.
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sometimes i enjoy making fun of others wildly imaginative, unrealistic, one sided and deeply flawed arguments. for me, its like mental exercise and entertainment combined. now that adwords is down for a couple more hours for maintenence, i will probably step it up a bit.
hmmm I think someone missed their nap today
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and what are you like? you are simply the other side of the same coin and you embody all of those same traits you hate in others.

you are not talking politics... you are projecting.
Yep, that's what you and Fox news would like to think, we're just flip sides of the same coin, but we're not. One of us is wrong on nearly every political question, and one of us is right, or close to it.

There are evil, wrong people, and there are people on the other side. Conservatives, particularly this mish-mash collection of every different philosophy they have going today -states rights, moral majority, neocons, southern bigots - are dangerous and wrong. Democrats are right.
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hmmm I think someone missed their nap today
actually, yeah. my wife keeps me up until 12 -1 am telling me all about her day and the shit that upsets her... which was the exact same shit and people as yesterday and the day before that and the day before that and the day before that and the day before that... i was supposed to get up early and go to the gym, but was just too tired. then i started playing with my PPC stuff and adwords went offline.

i do need a nap.

i think i am going to go watch 300. seeing a few 1000 people get slaughtered might lift my spirits.
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i think i am going to go watch 300. seeing a few 1000 people get slaughtered might lift my spirits.
A friend saw it last night, said it was great!
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actually, yeah. my wife keeps me up until 12 -1 am telling me all about her day and the shit that upsets her... which was the exact same shit and people as yesterday and the day before that and the day before that and the day before that and the day before that... i was supposed to get up early and go to the gym, but was just too tired. then i started playing with my PPC stuff and adwords went offline.

i do need a nap.

i think i am going to go watch 300. seeing a few 1000 people get slaughtered might lift my spirits.
enjoy your movie
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:17 PM   #49
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Yep, that's what you and Fox news would like to think, we're just flip sides of the same coin, but we're not. One of us is wrong on nearly every political question, and one of us is right, or close to it.
OK Hitler. You're right about everything. There is only one side to an argument... YOU'RE side and history will remember you as a God who lived his life free of mistakes and wrong ideas or beliefs.

It totally baffles me that you can't seperate subjective opinion from objective fact. i am not a psychiatrist, but i am pretty sure thats a mental state thats flirting with psychosis.

key points to clarify again that you love to skip over just because i make fun of your mindless banter -
1) i have never voted in my life
2) i don't watch the news and haven't in an extremely long time.
3) i don't think i am right about everything. unlike you, i am somewhat rational and i realize and accept that there are two sides to every argument which is evidenced by the fact that an argument exists in the first place and i fully understand and accept that i can be right, you can be right, we both can be right and we both can be wrong.

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Old 03-10-2007, 12:18 PM   #50
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