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Old 03-11-2007, 12:41 PM   #51
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did it 2000 years ago.
And you still couldnt kill him.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:41 PM   #52
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Now why do you have to get all pissy about it fuck face? You just dismiss the movie in my sig? That is real scientific data as well. Face it Gore is a liar.
ya know.. as soon as ya bust out with FUCK FACE, you lose credibility
it's not so much an edjumacated choice of wordage
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:43 PM   #53
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ya know.. as soon as ya bust out with FUCK FACE, you lose credibility it's not so much an edjumacated choice of wordage
Oh and I suppose him calling me a jackass first made much him sound much more credible. Stop reaching beyond the point that human induced global warming is a LIE.

Im an equal opportunity asshole... fuck face.

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So you are the one that is hitbotting all those global warming debunking sites?
not me. don't believe in global warming either. soon the third temple will be rebuilt and all this will be academic.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:44 PM   #55
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ok, It's true that these days it's warmer here than is was in 1987 or in 1967 or in 1907, but it's still alot colder than it was in 1787 or 1607...
I think it will show up as warmer in some places, colder in some places, wetter in some places and dryer in others. I think the whole point is that balance that nature had is being forced to extremes.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:49 PM   #56
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Thats ok I just fucked a couple of liberal sites up by hitbotting their ads.
The realms of your stupidity reach new depths the more you open your mouth.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:52 PM   #57
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The realms of your stupidity reach new depths the more you open your mouth.
OMG please dont hurt me with your Southpark quotes kid.

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Old 03-11-2007, 12:53 PM   #58
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I really don't give a flying fuck about global warming. If, and that's a big fucking if, it is real, I'll be dead long before it happens, and then, being that I'm dead, I won't give two shits about it. And my kids? Oh fucking well. I'll be dead, and with that, comes no responsibility and no cares.
Apathy is worse than hatred.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:02 PM   #59
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Because it costs money to our corporations who pass that cost on to consumers. Also other countries like China and India will not be handicapped by these reductions and will become stronger, which makes the United States weaker.

What "PLAN" are you thinking we need here? We already have plenty of environmental rules that make sense, many of us recycle, there are many conservation programs across the United States. Why do you think the status quo isnt good enough?

HUMANS are not causing global warming so why should we try to prevent what we arent causing?
To your corporations in the US? Is that why the European nations who have enacted similar or more restrictive legislation (Kyoto?) are gaining strength while the dollar gets weaker? I hate to tell you Americans this, but you are (once again) the last ones to get on the boat, while the rest of the world points and laughs.

These arguments of 'the cost of goods will go up' and 'China/3rd World will continue to take our jobs' are decades old. Yet America appears to be doing okay. I'd worry about your massive trade defecit with China, something tells me that has more to do with the issues you are concerned about than CO2.

I do find it interesting that you used 2 of the arguments I had predicted you would. Let's examine those:

1 - Greater controls on emissions would raise the prices on consumer goods. That's been said about every environmental policy affecting big business for literally decades. Who pays for the commercials and lobbying to tell you that? You guessed it. If big businesses spent the money on reform instead of lobbying, they'd be emission-free by now. This applies to a lot of countries, but especially to America because your policymakers are in the pockets of the big corporations.

2 - Countries who have less regulation will grow stronger. The cost of making a country cleaner is negligible. For less than 1% of the annual US military budget, auto makers could retrofit their cars with low emission devices. For less than 1% livestock farmers (livestock release more greenhouse gasses than automobiles) could work on reclamation and recycling devices. The amount of money to see a noticable change is so negligible, the only excuse for not doing it is ignorance, or the desire by money-laden interests to save pennies on the dollar.

I think it is extremely arrogant when Americans deride policies widely accepted by the REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD and assume that because 50 other countries have examined the same data and reached the opposite conclusion, that we are clearly delusional.

In other words, do some of your own research. You will find that the cost of making changes to CO2 and other emissions is negligible. Your country spends trillions on defense and weapons. Making the air cleaner and the environment more habitable would be a drop in the bucket.

When all else fails and you realize that your leaders are more interested in protecting their corporate sponsors than they are their citizens, you can resort to the Cold War Era arguments that by weakening our corporations we are letting the Communists and Muslims win.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:05 PM   #60
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I agree. Global warming is total bullshit.

Before I believe humans are causing it, I want to see records of the last 500,000 years of weather data to show that we are beyond a reasonable doubt causing warming that would not be happening otherwise.
Are you smart enough to be able to render scientific theory from 500,000 years of weather data if made available to you?

If so, good for you man.

I'd have to think, though, you shouldn't be posting here if you're that bad ass.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:09 PM   #63
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However, I do have to give you credit for your unintentionally correct statement.

I found the article I was looking for. If you thought those Chinese were insidious, you were right! They are actually polluting your cities for you!

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...0,661397.story

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Only a decade ago did scientists in the University of California's Pacific Rim Aerosol Network help discover that the pollution crossing the Pacific from Asia was worse than suspected, with millions of tons of previously undetected contaminants carried on the wind.

In fact, on any spring or summer day, almost a third of the air high over Los Angeles, San Francisco and other California cities can be traced directly to Asia, researchers said.
I am all for exposing lies that reap political gain for one group or another. But in this case, I have to argue that reducing pollution is a cause we should all be behind. It's easy to bicker over the details, but ignoring the reality that humans are (at the very least) making parts of the world dangerous to live in, killing off animal and plant species, and posing health risks to one another, is simply foolish.

In some European countries, endangering the lives of citizens via corporate pollution is a felony offense. Corporate leaders can be imprisoned. Making the penalties for screwing up our planet more severe is one step in the right direction to stopping all this B.S. spin and having a meaningful debate about protecting the environment.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:20 PM   #64
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When all else fails and you realize that your leaders are more interested in protecting their corporate sponsors than they are their citizens, you can resort to the Cold War Era arguments that by weakening our corporations we are letting the Communists and Muslims win.
Thats why they call it capitolism, the system only works if you let it work on its own without overbearing and unnecessary regulations.
You obviously have a completely different mindset, and probably one that doesnt have the American people in its best interests.
Human induced global warming is a lie and not worthy of altering our policies wholesale.
That being said like I mentioned before America has enough policies already in place to help with conservation, but it must not come at the cost of human productivity or advancement.

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That film is MADE by scientists who show you their raw data, so let me get this straight lol you trust a politician to read you scientific data compared to letting real scientists read you scientific data?
You stupid, ignorant tosser.

As you clearly don't have the intelect to read raw scientific data, who then can read it to you?
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i love how every thread splum posts in turns into a bullshit internet political debate.
Because Splum is a lowlife troll who keeps stirring the pot, regardless of others showing him how stupid he is.

Some people cannot see the wood for the trees.

And to boot, I'm a French liberal, according to my ICQ alias that Splum has for me in his 'buddies' list
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Ahh its the coder. One word for you mr "borked"(how appropriate nickname for a coder). Backdoor.

Oh also what kind of homo uses the word "tosser" lol?
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As you clearly don't have the intelect to read raw scientific data, who then can read it to you?
As you can't read, Splum, go watch Are We Changing Planet Earth by Sir David Attenborough. He's a scientist that translates raw science into a language even idiots like you can understand. Go watch his 2-part series.
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Ahh its the coder. One word for you mr "borked"(how appropriate nickname for a coder). Backdoor.

Oh also what kind of homo uses the word "tosser" lol?
Backdoor? Are you implying I open backdoors in my programmes?
I have the ICQ log from that conversation - I can't get you banned from a private accusation, but if you care to make it public....
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As you can't read, Splum, go watch Are We Changing Planet Earth by Sir David Attenborough. He's a scientist that translates raw science into a language even idiots like you can understand. Go watch his 2-part series.
For one idiot Attenborough isnt a scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough

For two Attenborough IS a broadcaster(aka guy who gets paid to make broadcasts)

Just click on my sig to watch a movie that was made by REAL scientists who have no fiscal stake.

Oh Im sorry I didnt speak your language here... Baaa baaa baaaa
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Backdoor? Are you implying I open backdoors in my programmes? I have the ICQ log from that conversation - I can't get you banned from a private accusation, but if you care to make it public....
I hope BoyAlley backdoors your ass.
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99.99% of the time it has to do with clicking their own ads.
wow, does splum seem like the type of guy to have friends???
i mean does he seem like the type of guy to have friends who would do such a thing?!?!!
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For one idiot Attenborough isnt a scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough

For two Attenborough IS a broadcaster(aka guy who gets paid to make broadcasts)
the title of FRS doesn't come without a scientific background idiot.

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Just click on my sig to watch a movie that was made by REAL scientists who have no fiscal stake.
Scientists have agendas as well ya know. It's what the.... wait for it.... MAJORITY of scientists in this field think. Not one frikken layman.
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wow, does splum seem like the type of guy to have friends??? i mean does he seem like the type of guy to have friends who would do such a thing?!?!!
Oh Karen honey I am so hurt I am not in your Myspace top 8.
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He can backdoor my ass any time.

There are some that give it, others only take it.

I have never backdoored anyone and if you care to accuse me otherwise, go ahead....
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I dont see anything scientific about "Fucking Really Stupid".
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A friend of mine ran a blog that had news and information that discredited global warming. Within weeks after it had started to become popular by being featured on Digg and other social sites Google canned his adsense account with NO email notice.

Google owed him a mere $200 but because one of their employees political views they canned the account.
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What do you think a fucking blog is dumbass lol. Show me a blog that DOESNT use news stories lol. That isnt the reason the reason is because some liberal hippie clicked on this guys links enough to make it look bad. Thats ok I just fucked a couple of liberal sites up by hitbotting their ads.
So which one is it? Google hates blogs that rant about global warming or a hippie hitbotting your friends site?
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So which one is it? Google hates blogs that rant about global warming or a hippie hitbotting your friends site?
I dont know why dont YOU tell me. Seriously tho does it matter?
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So which one is it? Google hates blogs that rant about global warming or a hippie hitbotting your friends site?
Don't worry - not even he knows. He;s all mouth with no means for action. He said he'd fuck up my clients by email his xx,xxx webmasters to let them all know I was a French anti-American liberal and to stay the fuck away. All because I didn't agree with him.

Well, a few months on and I still have a healthy 4-week backlog for programming lined up. Same way it's been for the last few years.


So, when he says he just hit all those sites with false clicks, well, it's all just bullshit
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Well, a few months on and I still have a healthy 4-week backlog for programming lined up. Same way it's been for the last few years.
Isnt that what you paid me for?
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Isn't that what you paid me for
Now I know you're just a sigwhoring scum troll to get posts counts to your lame ass thread, because I've never paid anyone anything for my sites.
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must be all that malware you collect, tracking crap to infest your brain because it's a great looking site from here.
You would know about malware wouldnt you.
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Google owed him a mere $200 but because one of their employees political views they canned the account.


Seeing as al gore invented the internet this should come as no surprise.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:19 PM   #93
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Now I know you're just a sigwhoring scum troll to get posts counts to your lame ass thread, because I've never paid anyone anything for my sites.
Lol yeah Im such a sig whore that I promote absolutely NO ONE in it lol. How do you get your sites for free like that?
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:20 PM   #94
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i think al gore called google after digg called him and complained about the blog
it's some kind of conspiracy
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #95
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i think al gore called google after digg called him and complained about the blog it's some kind of conspiracy
Yeap right after he left your house in the morning after spending the night with you.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:25 PM   #96
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I'd hazard a guess that the webmaster was clicking his own ads and google caught him out. The site is not banned, just your adsense account.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:28 PM   #97
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Al Gore is such a hunk... oops i meant HULK.

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Old 03-11-2007, 02:40 PM   #98
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it must be true then
after all he did invent the internet
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:20 PM   #100
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For example, new coal burning power plants built by a certain contractor (can't recall the name) are equipped to run at almost zero negative emissions due to reclamation devices that process CO2 and other coal waste. However it's not yet required by law that companies use this technology. The plants have all been retrofitted with it anyhow 'in case'. So what is the cost to big business there? Next to nothing, it's a few thousand dollars per unit to retrofit.
I'm not sure where you get your facts from, but retrofitting a coal powerstation with clean coal technology costs a damn sight more than a few thousand dollars. This one particularly method of clean coal costs $34 million to retrofit.

http://www.socialfunds.com/news/release.cgi/6406.html

And the clean coal technology which is leading the pack is coal gasification. GE And Bechtel are working on coal gasification together. When those two companies start working together, it's time to take notice. Bechtel have said that a new plant using coal gasification would cost $975 million compared to a conventional plant which would cost about $780 million.

Not to mention higher operational costs which will be passed onto the consumer. I think clean coal is a great idea. Just don't go around saying it's something that's going to cost a few thousand dollars.

Here in Queensland, Australia, we have enough coal to give us energy for something like 300 years, apparently. So clean coal technology is being looked at in a big way. It would be a non-issue if it were just a few thousand dollars per power station.
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