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webair · 03-18-2007, 11:15 AM

What's better and what's going to last? I think im going with the blueray even though they have fewer titles i hear read they are outselling HDVD 3 to 1 what do you think?

Flow · 03-18-2007, 12:04 PM

I think get the LG BH-100 player - it plays both formats. Then you don't need to worry about which one will win. Unfortunately, it is around $1100 at Best Buy or Circuit City. But worth it if you ask me.

Also, the outsell 3 to 1 is a bit far fetched. At the moment BluRay may be selling more but only because HD DVD titles have been slow to come out as of late but HD DVD players are still out selling BluRay players. I have a HD DVD player and I love it but there are definately BluRay titles I would love to see so if I had to do it over again, I would go with the LG BH-100 player so I could have it all!

Flow · 03-18-2007, 12:07 PM

Oh yeah, BluRay players are around $700-800 bucks. HD DVD players are about half that PLUS you get 5 free HD DVD with a HD DVD player right now plus the picture quality on HD DVD is tons better than HD DVD. Great deal if you don't go with the LG BH-100 player.

GatorB · 03-18-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flow

Oh yeah, BluRay players are around $700-800 bucks.

You can buy a PS3 for $500. It also has HDMI 1.3 which most HD-DVD or other blu-ray players don't have.

Right now I wouldn't buy either but I think blu-ray will win out.

tony286 · 03-18-2007, 12:15 PM

a another benefit of hd dvd players is you can play old dvds on them

BlackCrayon · 03-18-2007, 12:17 PM

i'd say hd is gonna win but who knows. remember laserdisc?

Basic_man · 03-18-2007, 12:18 PM

Look at the HD DVDs title comming out .. you'll be really dissapointed!

GatorB · 03-18-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

Look at the HD DVDs title comming out .. you'll be really dissapointed!

Blu-ray has more studio support. Blu-ray is made buy Sony. You think any movies made by Sony are coming out on HD-DVD?

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i'd say hd is gonna win but who knows. remember laserdisc?

Because of the PS3 containing a built in blu-ray player ther are 5X times as many blu-ray players as HD-DVD players. That ratio will only get bigger. That's where Microsoft fucked up not including HD-DVD with the XBOX 360.

candyflip · 03-18-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Blu-ray has more studio support. Blu-ray is made buy Sony. You think any movies made by Sony are coming out on HD-DVD?

Because of the PS3 containing a built in blu-ray player ther are 5X times as many blu-ray players as HD-DVD players. That ratio will only get bigger. That's where Microsoft fucked up not including HD-DVD with the XBOX 360.

Microsoft didn't fuck anything up in that respect. The BluRay in the PS3 is a nice add on, but not needed to play games. It's possible that a number of folks who purchased a PS3 might never even buy or watch BluRay movie. While 100% of the folks that purchase a XBox360 HDDVD player will.

Microsoft gave their consumers a choice and didn't sack them for an additional $200 unless the consumer wanted it.

I've got both. Right now BluRay has a few more titles, while the HDDVD titles are usually $5-10 less than the same title on BluRay.

JJSLIMM · 03-18-2007, 12:57 PM

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candyflip · 03-18-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JJSLIMM

Gonna have a 3rd soon...HD VMD launching soon http://www.nmeinc.com/ at http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=20052

This is cool because it uses standard red laser technology.

Jakke PNG · 03-18-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Microsoft didn't fuck anything up in that respect. The BluRay in the PS3 is a nice add on, but not needed to play games. It's possible that a number of folks who purchased a PS3 might never even buy or watch BluRay movie. While 100% of the folks that purchase a XBox360 HDDVD player will.

Microsoft gave their consumers a choice and didn't sack them for an additional $200 unless the consumer wanted it.

I've got both. Right now BluRay has a few more titles, while the HDDVD titles are usually $5-10 less than the same title on BluRay.

Well, PS3 owners will have a possibility to get HUGE games. Xbox360 users will *NOT* be getting HD-DVD *GAMES*, since everyone doesn't have the hd-dvd drive.

I personally think including the blu-ray was a smart move, even if it does bump the price of the ps3 to ridiculously high.

candyflip · 03-18-2007, 01:08 PM

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Well, PS3 owners will have a possibility to get HUGE games. Xbox360 users will *NOT* be getting HD-DVD *GAMES*, since everyone doesn't have the hd-dvd drive.

That's Sony's stance. Developers say otherwise. The only thing that extra space will really be used for will be CGI cutscenes and Full Motion Video...not really anything that will effect gameplay. Give me some great games to play. So far, my 360 has been doing that, my PS3 sits and waits. Hell, the hottest Playstation game out at the moment is God of War for PS2, the PS3 is soooooo lacking.

webair · 03-18-2007, 02:03 PM

ok i went with the pioneer elite blue ray dvd player its pretty sick and there were some good titles available...

first pick reservoir dogs =) the guy made me buy the corpse bride as well said it was incredible on blueray... i must say the quality is incredible! I just hope it does better then the betamax did =))

GatorB · 03-18-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Microsoft didn't fuck anything up in that respect. The BluRay in the PS3 is a nice add on, but not needed to play games.

Considering the games are on blu-ray discs I beg to differ.

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It's possible that a number of folks who purchased a PS3 might never even buy or watch BluRay movie. While 100% of the folks that purchase a XBox360 HDDVD player will.

Well if you have a blu-ray player and the video store rents out blu-ray disc why not rent one? Once you do that you've got em.

You do realize the sales numbers for the HD-DVD add on are miniscule compared to how many PS3 are our there.

Also consider this the person that bought the HD-DVD add on spent

$399 for premium XBOX 360 with 20 GB HDD
$100 for wi-fi
$200 for HD-DVD addd-on
no HDMI available. MS says sooon, but of course will be an add-on and will cost more $$$$

TOTAL $700 not including cost of future HDMI add-on.

Premium PS3 with 60 HDD comes with wi-fi, blu-ray, and HDMI 1.3 for $600

Now how stupid is that?

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Microsoft gave their consumers a choice and didn't sack them for an additional $200 unless the consumer wanted it.

Yes in a few years those HD-DVD add-ons will have to be replaced with blu-ray add-ons. Real smart.

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I've got both. Right now BluRay has a few more titles, while the HDDVD titles are usually $5-10 less than the same title on BluRay.

I'm sure my local Movie Gallery rents both for the same price. Most people rent not buy.

Blu-ray has more than just a few more titles. And that means a lot. For example I'm sure Spiderman 3 will be a huge hit in theaters and will one of the most anticipated movies for home theater. It will only come out on blu-ray not HD-DVD.

Prices will drop for both like DVDs have, as more get sold. Blu-ray is selling a shitload more so their price drops will come faster and be more.

03-18-2007, 02:16 PM

XviD

it's the future ;)

chaze · 03-18-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by webair

What's better and what's going to last? I think im going with the blueray even though they have fewer titles i hear read they are outselling HDVD 3 to 1 what do you think?

Blue ray is better but HD Dvd has already pulled ahead (its what I use). But the rummer is both will last since the disk costs these guys less then a penny anyways.

candyflip · 03-18-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Considering the games are on blu-ray discs I beg to differ.

Well if you have a blu-ray player and the video store rents out blu-ray disc why not rent one? Once you do that you've got em.

You do realize the sales numbers for the HD-DVD add on are miniscule compared to how many PS3 are our there.

Also consider this the person that bought the HD-DVD add on spent

$399 for premium XBOX 360 with 20 GB HDD
$100 for wi-fi
$200 for HD-DVD addd-on
no HDMI available. MS says sooon, but of course will be an add-on and will cost more $$$$

TOTAL $700 not including cost of future HDMI add-on.

Premium PS3 with 60 HDD comes with wi-fi, blu-ray, and HDMI 1.3 for $600

Now how stupid is that?

Yes in a few years those HD-DVD add-ons will have to be replaced with blu-ray add-ons. Real smart.

I'm sure my local Movie Gallery rents both for the same price. Most people rent not buy.

Blu-ray has more than just a few more titles. And that means a lot. For example I'm sure Spiderman 3 will be a huge hit in theaters and will one of the most anticipated movies for home theater. It will only come out on blu-ray not HD-DVD.

Prices will drop for both like DVDs have, as more get sold. Blu-ray is selling a shitload more so their price drops will come faster and be more.

As I mentioned above games being on Bluray means nothing more than games on that format having more CGI or FMV cutscenes. It offers no benefit to the gaming experience.

As for movie players, HDDVD units are already 1/2 the price of BR players. The only reason you're seeing more BR player #s, is from the PS3 owners...which most people bought for gaming purposes, not movies. So those numbers don't hold the full weight of someone purchasing the MS HDDVD addon because they wanted to watch HDDVD movies. That's my point.

None of the rental places in my mid-sized city are renting either format. Netflix has HDDVD, but no Bluray (at the moment). You mentioned that there are some Bluray exclusives, well the same can be said for HDDVD. In the case that the title is available on both formats, HDDVD is always cheaper. The menu setup for all the extra features on HDDVD provides a much better user experience.

I've got both so what I'm saying comes from my research as well as using both setups.

Star 69 · 03-18-2007, 04:43 PM

HD DVD is better the discs are more protected. If you will have a small skretch on Blue ray DVD is will be fucked and you will be pissed off

notabook · 03-18-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

HD DVD is better the discs are more protected. If you will have a small skretch on Blue ray DVD is will be fucked and you will be pissed off

Not true. Both are very well protected and can take a significant amount of stress and still play fine.

BlackCrayon · 03-18-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Blu-ray has more studio support. Blu-ray is made buy Sony. You think any movies made by Sony are coming out on HD-DVD?

Because of the PS3 containing a built in blu-ray player ther are 5X times as many blu-ray players as HD-DVD players. That ratio will only get bigger. That's where Microsoft fucked up not including HD-DVD with the XBOX 360.

good point but useless for people like myself who don't play video games.

Juilan · 03-18-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

a another benefit of hd dvd players is you can play old dvds on them

My old dvd's are playing fine in my new blu-ray

kaori · 03-18-2007, 08:17 PM

I love my bluray..
I'd actually say MORE titles are available on HD-DVD, at a slightly lower price, but that bluray is pulling ahead...
I now have 14 bluray movies that I use on my PS3, and no games... I think that bluray's early advantage lead will really help them win the battle...
I also like the fact that bluray technically has more storage space IF it's ever needed...
And I just rented a bluray movie last night from blockbuster for the same price as a regular dvd

candyflip · 03-18-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kaori

I also like the fact that bluray technically has more storage space IF it's ever needed...

Bluray has 50gig capacity, They have new dual layer HDDVD that will have 51. I'm sure it'll go back and forth, but that's where it stands now.

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webair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 8,531	ok i went with the pioneer elite blue ray dvd player its pretty sick and there were some good titles available... first pick reservoir dogs =) the guy made me buy the corpse bride as well said it was incredible on blueray... i must say the quality is incredible! I just hope it does better then the betamax did =)) __________________ ~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~ ~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~ *ICQ:* 243116321 - *TWITTER* - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected]

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Flow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 518	I think get the LG BH-100 player - it plays both formats. Then you don't need to worry about which one will win. Unfortunately, it is around $1100 at Best Buy or Circuit City. But worth it if you ask me. Also, the outsell 3 to 1 is a bit far fetched. At the moment BluRay may be selling more but only because HD DVD titles have been slow to come out as of late but HD DVD players are still out selling BluRay players. I have a HD DVD player and I love it but there are definately BluRay titles I would love to see so if I had to do it over again, I would go with the LG BH-100 player so I could have it all!

03-18-2007, 12:07 PM	#3
Flow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 518	Oh yeah, BluRay players are around $700-800 bucks. HD DVD players are about half that PLUS you get 5 free HD DVD with a HD DVD player right now plus the picture quality on HD DVD is tons better than HD DVD. Great deal if you don't go with the LG BH-100 player.

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kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	I love my bluray.. I'd actually say MORE titles are available on HD-DVD, at a slightly lower price, but that bluray is pulling ahead... I now have 14 bluray movies that I use on my PS3, and no games... I think that bluray's early advantage lead will really help them win the battle... I also like the fact that bluray technically has more storage space IF it's ever needed... And I just rented a bluray movie last night from blockbuster for the same price as a regular dvd Last edited by kaori; 03-18-2007 at 08:18 PM..