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luv$ · 03-21-2007, 02:23 AM

Did anyone ever read Lila ?

Was it worth it or an obvious milk of the concepts set forth in ZATAOMM?

Thinking of picking it up.

V_RocKs · 03-21-2007, 02:29 AM

Perhaps this is the female version?

evulvmedia · 03-21-2007, 02:38 AM

Fuck Quality. Quality Sucks.

With that said, you should think about it like this:

Zen... is an introduction, more of a story, touching upon the concepts of Metaphysics of Quality and how Pirsig came to them through his madness...

Lila takes that beginning and expands it into a more fleshed-out philosophy, almost a formal philosophy.

So: If you like where the philosophy in Zen is headed, then go ahead and read Lila. If you want a much better dose of philosophy, though, read Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind if you haven't already.

evulvmedia · 03-21-2007, 02:41 AM

You can also read this interview where Pirsig himself discusses the difference between the two books and then discusses the concepts of MOQ:

http://www.philosophersnet.com/magaz...transcript.htm

luv$ · 03-21-2007, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

Fuck Quality. Quality Sucks.

With that said, you should think about it like this:

Zen... is an introduction, more of a story, touching upon the concepts of Metaphysics of Quality and how Pirsig came to them through his madness...

Lila takes that beginning and expands it into a more fleshed-out philosophy, almost a formal philosophy.

So: If you like where the philosophy in Zen is headed, then go ahead and read Lila. If you want a much better dose of philosophy, though, read Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind if you haven't already.

Thanks man, and thank for the book ref, I hadn't heard of that one.

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evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	Fuck Quality. Quality Sucks. With that said, you should think about it like this: Zen... is an introduction, more of a story, touching upon the concepts of Metaphysics of Quality and how Pirsig came to them through his madness... Lila takes that beginning and expands it into a more fleshed-out philosophy, almost a formal philosophy. So: If you like where the philosophy in Zen is headed, then go ahead and read Lila. If you want a much better dose of philosophy, though, read Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind if you haven't already.

03-21-2007, 02:41 AM	#4
evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	You can also read this interview where Pirsig himself discusses the difference between the two books and then discusses the concepts of MOQ: http://www.philosophersnet.com/magaz...transcript.htm