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Old 03-25-2007, 08:06 PM   #1
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my sons freind hung himself last nite--2nd in last week

My 16 year old son who Ive never heard cry in 5 years called me balling his eyes out.

He was at a sweet sixteen last night, hung out with his buddy, they all left at midnight, the guy was dancing having great time, went home and hung himself.


Last week, another friend, totaled parents car last friday night the 16th--saturday asks girl to prom--she says no--he was obviously hurting --tried calling his parents, sister, friends and then the girl who turned him down in prom to tell her he was commiting suicide cause she said no. No one answered just what bad luck. if someone answered it might have saved his life.

Both good looking, popular, got girls, athletes, well to do parents living in burbs.

I hope this week wasnt a copycat of last week. There deaths have ruined the lives of all families involved.

Realy scares me cause it remindes me of columbine in that it is a simlar township, school has gotten several bomb threats this year and its just so scary how stupid people our. What could ever make a 16 year old commit suicide? just 1 of the saddest things i ever heard
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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thats really fucked up hope your son gets through this as best as possible.
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thats really fucked up hope your son gets through this as best as possible.
thanks all...keeping an eye on him---nightmares im kind of worried about....
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:20 PM   #8
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an unfortunate reminder to spend time with the ones you love... It might not have changed anything... but it's that age when people seem to think the littlest things actually matter. I hardly remember the petty H.S. stuff now...and it definately doesn't play a role in my life. sad it cut theirs short.
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im sure these parents never saw it coming---just cant ever stop communication...i try to be so open with my kids---im just scared for him..lot of crap at the school--anyone who disliked the 1st kid was beat up by football team---its all just normall day to day bs until your kids involved--woow--what a wake up call
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so sorry ,you should think about getting him so professional help if he is having nightmares.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:32 PM   #12
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that's unfortunate howard, sorry to hear about that.

let your boy know you are there to talk with him, at any time.. and pray over your family.

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Heart breaking at such a young age too. RIP
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:36 PM   #14
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Talk to your son AND get him some proffesional help. No way a 16 yo can take this on his own (nor should he be able to). While talking to friends/family will help talking to a stranger will not do him no harm either. 16 year olds don't always want to tell everything to those they know: fears, doubts, awkward questions can be easier to tell to a neutral stranger.
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damn that's very sad to know...all i can say is that communication within the family is very important especially to the parent-child relationship..coz you really don't know what they are thinking and then one day you will be shocked that the child already commit suicide...well, RIP to your son's friend and i hope your son will get well soon..
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that is sad...hope everything is ok with ur son..
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:46 PM   #17
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Talk to your son AND get him some proffesional help. No way a 16 yo can take this on his own (nor should he be able to). While talking to friends/family will help talking to a stranger will not do him no harm either. 16 year olds don't always want to tell everything to those they know: fears, doubts, awkward questions can be easier to tell to a neutral stranger.

agree--him and I had a 100% honest relationship--were very close--even though divorced and remarried I see him everyday and if he needs it Ill get him there
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:49 PM   #18
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tough life....they would need guidance and support from families.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:59 PM   #19
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funny, were in suburbs of phila--bucks county pa----rated 1 of TOP school districts in USA---Concil Rock-----everyone with families in phila if they can afford they move here--$75,000,000 High School opened 4 years ago

JUST SHOWS ALL OF THIS CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE...
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Sad stuff...

Like everyone's saying, don't hesitate to seek professional counseling for your son - something like that is bound to have a real impact on his mind for a very long while.

Best wishes go out to all families involved. Hope your son deals with it as best as possible under the circumstances.
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Sorry to hear that...

...suicide in a family is devastating

Life does indeed suck at times, just have to show the kids how to navigate shit...
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not really a serious or major poster...still come here everyday to see the bs, laugh and sometimes actually find out something new..

not really sure why I posted this... kind of such a sad story...man you just can never stop worrying about your kids...

im tearing now writing how proud of my 2kids. son is 16---daughter is 13--they are both healthy and I just feel so blessed....
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in matter of fact I always wanted to write a book or start a site for divorced fathers--just lazy.

so today i put in for a domain and am starting a non profit site...

im extremely un technical so please speak like your talking to an idiot.

I got divorced in 98--out of house since 96--always lived within a couple miles---6 blocks now---see my kids almost every day---and all with X wife that when you look up cunt in the dictionary they show her picture.

I always put my kids before me, first, and when on my own party and enjoy. I honestly think I can help divorced fathers be better dads, enjoy life, and be able to laugh at x rather than walk around with hate...

maybe a site with my info--a forum for divorced dads to chat or so on...

any ideas

any divorced dads here?

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not really a serious or major poster...still come here everyday to see the bs, laugh and sometimes actually find out something new..

not really sure why I posted this... kind of such a sad story...man you just can never stop worrying about your kids...

im tearing now writing how proud of my 2kids. son is 16---daughter is 13--they are both healthy and I just feel so blessed....
You came here and posted it as a way of trying to cope with it. Now the last thing you want to do is overprotect your kids in a way that it strangles them. If you having a difficult time coping imaging what they are goint thrue. Get help yourself, get advice on how to deal with this, for yourself and your kids.
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Awe man Howard, I'm sorry to hear that. Never cool when you're a young one and live shit like that. Saw a murder at 18 and t'ill this day December 28th as always had a fucked up meaning to me.

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Its rough man, it happened to a friend of my son's two years ago, he took it pretty hard. I helped him to understand that there is absolutely no reason to do that when you have so much to look forward to in life. He ended up thinking his friend was a coward for doing it.
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Its rough man, it happened to a friend of my son's two years ago, he took it pretty hard. I helped him to understand that there is absolutely no reason to do that when you have so much to look forward to in life. He ended up thinking his friend was a coward for doing it.
my son said it already--im really proud of him---just expalined to keep it to himself--and he understands---but being with him maybe a couple hours before hanging himslef is--i just cant imagine for even me---viewing and funeral this week---his mother and i our taking him to both--for him

i hope i dont know the parents but it just seems evryone looks familiar here..
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Howard, from what I have read, suicides at that age are often "in clusters". As one person takes their life and their is an outpouring of grief and attention on them, others who are on the edge think that this may be the only way to get attention.

Some good steps is to work on the things that make these kids feel like they have no other choice. Is there a problem of a lack of future in your area? Economically depressed? No jobs? Are they heading for college, or are they headed for McJobs? Do they have interests and hobbies that keep them occupied and moving forward?

You can look at sites like this:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1488851

cluster suicides can be somewhat headed off if people get more actively involved before it reaches the tipping point.
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Awe man Howard, I'm sorry to hear that. Never cool when you're a young one and live shit like that. Saw a murder at 18 and t'ill this day December 28th as always had a fucked up meaning to me.

And as per the divorce stuff... Hit me up bro on ICQ, let's exchange stories.

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Howard, from what I have read, suicides at that age are often "in clusters". As one person takes their life and their is an outpouring of grief and attention on them, others who are on the edge think that this may be the only way to get attention.

Some good steps is to work on the things that make these kids feel like they have no other choice. Is there a problem of a lack of future in your area? Economically depressed? No jobs? Are they heading for college, or are they headed for McJobs? Do they have interests and hobbies that keep them occupied and moving forward?

You can look at sites like this:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1488851

cluster suicides can be somewhat headed off if people get more actively involved before it reaches the tipping point.
alex--hey man thanks--i wrote in 1 of my post exactly what your fears are..so afarid of a columbine ..school has got several bomb threats. defiently not a depresed area--new high school was 75 million---teachers start at 75k--houses start at 500k--yeah how can they afford what us parents have--i have to agree a ton of pressure--but at 16 doubt it
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Really sorry to hear that, man. No matter how often I hear of things like this, it's still shocking. It's not even surprising that the young man who killed himself "had it made" as far a popularity and so on is concerned. We never really know what's going on inside people, so just have to make it easier for them to tell us and share their feelings.
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Really sorry to hear that, man. No matter how often I hear of things like this, it's still shocking. It's not even surprising that the young man who killed himself "had it made" as far a popularity and so on is concerned. We never really know what's going on inside people, so just have to make it easier for them to tell us and share their feelings.
x wife is hardcore mom--handles school--i do all the sports and have more of the friend role but always made clear ME DAD 1st. we raised r kids from get go to trust us and talk to us..x is the yeller--im more calm--i trust him to always make right decision--he knows he can call anytime anywhere and i wont ask or bust balls--i just want him alive and well
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I'm so sorry! Please explain to your son and his friends that DEATH is forever! It's a permanent answer for a temporary problem. Always remember---And this too shall pass. Sleep on it, talk to someone about it; it will change!
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Get him to talk to a grief councillor,or someone in a professsional capacity like that
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i guess a lot of things seem like the end of the world when you're 16. if only they could see through to realize that none of that shit matters once high school is done. very sad.
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Its really sad to know that certain realities like this happens..May you have the inner strength to go and move on....
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:41 AM   #45
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i got chills, and not in a good way.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:53 AM   #46
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very unfortunate, sorry to hear that..they're both in our prayers!
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:14 AM   #47
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:20 AM   #48
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Scott M. Glover, Jr.

Scott M. Glover, Jr., 17, of Richboro, Pa., died on Sunday, March 25, 2007, at St. Mary Medical Center.

Born in Philadelphia, Pa., Scott grew up in Richboro, was a student at Richboro Elementary and Intermediate School and was presently a Junior at Council Rock High School North, where he was participating in the Engineering Program at Middle Bucks Vocational Technical School.

Scott was an athletic and involved young man. He played for the Northampton Indians, raced Sprint cars and was a wrestler for Council Rock North, 152 lb. weight class. He was a member of the Advent Lutheran Church in Richboro and the Middletown Grange #684, where he was very active and involved with the annual fair. Scotty's outgoing and personable attitude made him a friend to everyone, and will be deeply missed by his family and all those who knew him.

Loving son of Scott and Tammy Roecker Glover; and dearest brother of Amber Lynn Glover; and the late Nicholas Glover. He is also survived by his paternal grandparents Richard and Alice Mae Simon Glover of Wrightstown; and his maternal grandmother Pauline Bieri Roecker of Warminster; and many aunts, uncles and cousins. He was predeceased by his maternal grandfather Raymond H. Roecker, Sr.

Relatives and friends are invited to attend his Funeral Service 10:30 a.m., on Thursday, March 29, 2007 at St. Vincent de Paul Church, 654 Hatboro Road, Richboro, Pa., 18954. Interment will be in Union Cemetery, Richboro. The family will receive friends on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. at the Joseph A. Fluehr III Funeral Home, 800 Newtown-Richboro Road, Richboro, Pa.

In lieu of flowers, contributions in Scotty's memory may be made to the Council Rock North Wrestling Team Scholarship Fund, c/o Athletic Department, 62 Swamp Road, Newtown, Pa., 18940 or to the Middletown Grange Scholarship Fund, P.O. Box 47, Penns Park, Pa., 18943. www.fluehr.com
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Sean Neumann Metzler

Sean Neumann Metzler, 16, of Richboro, Pa., died on Friday, March 16, 2007, at his home in Richboro.

Born in Fort Rucker, Alabama, Home of Army Aviation. Sean was a resident of Richboro for the past eight years. He was a graduate of Richboro Elementary School in 2005 and was presently a Junior at Council Rock High School South, where he was an excellent student who played on the Varsity Volleyball Team and was a starter on the JV Football Team and played on Special Teams for Varsity Football. For over seven years Sean played for the Northampton Indians Football Program, he was an outgoing team player who will be deeply missed by his devoted parents, sister, grandparents, many other relatives and great friends.

Sean was the maternal grandson of the late Richard White; he is survived by his beloved parents John Neumann and Kathleen M. White Metzler; the loving brother of Amanda L. Metzler, all of Richboro; he is also survived by his maternal grandmother Ann E. White of Southampton, and his paternal grandparents Marian and William P. Metzler of Hilltown, formerly of Warminster. He is also survived by many caring aunts, uncles and cousins.

Relatives, friends and classmates are invited to attend his viewing Wednesday, March 21, 2007 from 6:00- 9:00 p.m. at the Joseph A. Fluehr III Funeral Home, 800 Newtown-Richboro Road (at Holland Road) Richboro, and to his Funeral Mass Thursday 10:00 a.m. at St. Bede the Venerable Church, 1071 Holland Road, Holland. Interment will be in St. John Neumann Cemetery, Chalfont.

Flowers or contributions in Sean's memory may be made to the Memorial Fund of St. Bede the Venerable Church at the above address, would be appreciated by the family.

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Old 03-26-2007, 08:23 AM   #50
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Better keep a really close watch on your son - he is going to need lots of support for a while I think.
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