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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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You know you have made it when you have your own band of hater followers
I have finally arrived
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Can i be a part of ya groupie then
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congrats to the winners
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He spoke the truth there people.... you cannot deny it!!!
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lol...true that..
eh people forget that at the end of the day its all about maximizing s/h wealth... thats #1 priority of any business... So if zango makes AFF or CAMS richer, then they should do it... SO YEAH everyone repeat.. The MOST important thing for a business is to maximize Shareholder wealth.. basically to increase revenue and decrease costs...this comes before customer service/affiliates/etc many companies would fuck over people if they legally could... dont forget all the child labor, etc, none of these companies give a shit.. BEsides, all this affiliate programs and sponsors honestly DONT give a shit about you.. they like you because you bring them sales... without your sales you are worthless to them....
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Damn, I am doing pretty good then cause I have a few haters and trolls
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Yup, if you were a program with 5 affiiliates and 2 joins a day... no would care what so ever what you do with Zango.
But you start pushing some bigger numbers and suddenly you're the scum of the industry. |
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3 pages at least....
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When you're that big it's bound to happen at some point.
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zango or no zango who the fuck really cares.. u guys keep forgetting that all these "sponsors" treating you nicely are doing so just because you bring them sales.. the moment you stop making them money they wont give a fuck about u..
so if zango makes lars more money then good for him.. we are all here to make money we are not jehovas witnesses
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you got caught ripping off affiliates. you lied about what you were doing, you lied about why you were doing it, you lied about how you were doing it... you were even stealing from your own "friends"... you didn't even publically admit to stopping for months and then you gave the noble reason for stopping "it just isn't profitable anymore for us to rob you in this way"
haters? i would say that in porn, you have finally arrived when you are surrounded by weak ass sycophants who try to suck your cock because they think they can be cool by association. are you people in the fucking 5th grade or what? |
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eh.. who cares.lol i dont know lars neither do i care about him.... tons of companies rip affiliates off everyday.. even big companies.. ripping affiliates = increasing revenue.lol sounds wrong but its true.. if every company could shave WITH a 0% chance of getting caught im pretty sure almost if not all of them would.. If u dont wanna send for lars then dont.. if u are mad make ur program let people join and then cheat them... maybe ull feel better?
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Would anyone really have cared as much if he just ran a couple of low profile sites? |
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in America you can sue the parents of a child who ringed on your door on Halloween and gave you a heart attack and be awarded $5 Million, but in porn all we have is message board posts and drama.... im not really sure why...
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Lars admitted to bidding on Cams.com/aff.com because they had to. two problems with that "excuse" 1) it doesn't change the fact that 20-30 other people are still bidding on those URL's 2) they were still bidding on shitloads of adult domains and trying to grab traffic from wherever they can. Even Sleazy stood up for him before it was pointed out that they were stealing his surfers in this way too. 3) their legal dept could have easily stopped zango from allowing people to bid on cams.com/aff.com - PROBLEM SOLVED 4) you are repeating what he said in the beginning... maybe you missed the latest post where he explains that "its just not profitable anymore" which is why they stop. that directly contradicts the "we just have to do it" excuse. |
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what i care about is the fact that this industry is FULL of scumbags and liars and rip off artists, continually driving towards its own implosion with no shortage of idiots lined up to kiss the ass of the thief.
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I second what you said.
But it really is a shame that Lars is proud of what he achieved with all this Zango bullshit. If it really only represents 0.50% like he's saying, he would have dropped it because of all the bad press among webmasters. ![]()
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I've been hated on since the beginning of time....Waaaaay back when I was cutest baby of the month at the hospital and had my picture hanging on the wall...
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What does that have to do with anything? Big or small, when you make every effort to put yourself in the public eye, you better be ready to be scrutinized. It simply comes down to ethics, some have them and others don't.
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I won't provide any links to anyone promoting or supporting Zango either, much less kiss their ass. But in the context of the subject he started for this thread, what he said is accurate. People would have pulled their links and been done with it if he just ran some one site program with 5 affiliates. But because it's AFF, the topic never died for a moment. |
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Yay, go you!!!
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You are doing something right when half the people hate you and the other half love you.
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Hey Lars
That was fun on the panel - I was sort of looking forward to dodging bullets though, sitting in the chair next to ya. Looks like none of the big mouths with little dicks showed up.. Brad
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If Lars was telling the truth, then surely they wouldn't have been fucked to sacrifice that small amount of traffic and in turn would have garnered tons of positive attention and new affiliates by taking an industry positive anti-Zango stance. Sometimes the bigger picture seems only obvious to some in hindsight. |
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This is exactly what I am thinking. You just wrote it much better than I would have been able to. |
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it didn't die because it was Lars... the squeaky clean, cool guy. the promotional golden boy who got caught stealing and after a few days basically said "uhm... yeah, were robbing you... so what? you're just all stupid sheep" and... AFF? i'll tell you what... you go find me 10 warez sites, password sites or stolen content forums NOT pushing AFF and i'll apologize for everything i said and kiss Lars on the lips. did it occur to you that maybe people are getting tired of AFF being the single largest supporter of thievery online today? |
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Using that same logic Casey Serin @ www.iamfacingforeclosure.com is the next Bill Gates
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So now someone else is buying the zango traffic there has been no net change in traffic sent by zango, but where are all the threads bashing all teh people who jumped in to take up the slack ? Where are the people screaming about zango still popping on Adult friend Finder Affilaites ? Its still happening now its just competitor pops. Alas this was all just a bash on Adult friend Finder and a personal attack on me it had nothign to do with zango just an easy excuse, here we are still talking about Adult Friend Finder and zaango even though there are 50 people who are now buying the same spots nothign changed just different faces is all. But go on keep the Bash alive LOL your all really showing where your true colors are today. Bashers for the sake of bashing, you could all give a shit just a convenient vehicle.
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furthermore, if you have an adult site, they were most likely bidding on YOUR URL... which means that anytime an user visits your site that has zango on their computer, it pops up a nice, big window over your site inviting them to cams.com or aff.com. lars said its just "offering the surfer another option" -i guess you would agree with that. they "could have" done the right thing, protected their company, their trademarks and affiliates and just send a legal letter to zango and ended it forever. they didn't because the issue was cheap traffic that starts at .015 per click... not protecting their business. |
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Hey Lars, see sig ;-)
I fucking know the feeling, there's a tattoo forum that opened up and looks like I'm the main subject in their bitche and rants LOLOLOL
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truly pathetic
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you have to be one of the dumbest people on this forum. thats why i pity you a little.. you have to kiss ass to bigger people because thats all you got to offer. you're like the socially retarded, nerdy kid that tries to hang with the cool guy, laughs at all his jokes and defends him at any cost... because if you didn't you wouldn't have any friends at all.
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famous or infamous, whichever way you want to see it i guess.
i still don't see why more companies aren't sueing zango or ddosing the shit out them.
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Yet I'm ass kissing. Hmm... perhaps what bothers you is that all the little guys who posted that they used zango had a 5 post thread and were forgotten about and Lars remained center of attention for the duration and still is. I never once said I condoned any warez sites, password sites... diddly squat. I'm talking about how larger companies get more haters than smaller companies. That is the topic of the thread, isn't it? And I'm the dumb one? You don't even know what you're talking about anymore. So save your pity for yourself. You'll need it for the next time you contradict yourself. Until then, keep on calling me names and insulting me for having an opinion on the topic at hand... perhaps that'll make you feel better about the whole thing. While on the topic of Lars buying drinks, he never has bought me a drink at a show. Nor do I ever expect him to. He really has nothing what so ever to ever offer me. But that's for some other thread, you know... where the topic involves that sort of thing. |
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Was there hatin going on at the show?
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right now, i dont have anything nice to say about the "genuine guy" who gets caught stealing and basically says "fuck you, i'm going to steal from you anyway" or the people that defend that. you guys were the one company in this industry that could have made a positive change and done something good for everyone... instead, you chose do everything at the expense of the industry and everyone in it. that was truly dissapointing and definately not what people expected from you. if you are happy having your ass kissed at shows because you are "legendary lars" and not because you are truly a good person and good friend - then you life is more empty than anyone could have guessed. |
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