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Mr. Romance · 04-02-2007, 11:53 AM

You and Sagi have always been nice to me

Mr. Romance

StuartD · 04-02-2007, 11:53 AM

Perhaps we need another thread where we discuss "if you don't wish someone was dead, then you're an ass kisser" so that we can properly define how much hatred you need to have towards someone to be considered neutral.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

Was there hatin going on at the show?

Nope not one little bit.

Deej · 04-02-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Nope not one little bit.

ok good, I was gonna say, I had a great fuckin time. sittin by the fire at night n shit. I seen nothing but a good time had by all.

Was good finally to meet you. I was the guy with JenniDahling in that lil store.

Perhaps more words next time.

commonsense · 04-02-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

Was there hatin going on at the show?

99% of people won't hate in person. Those going to a show are either successful already or there to create new business. Pissing others off at a show wouldn't be wise, regardless of right or wrong.

Deej · 04-02-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

99% of people won't hate in person. Those going to a show are either successful already or there to create new business. Pissing others off at a show wouldn't be wise, regardless of right or wrong.

Right, but some people exceed expectations. So I wondered.

shoeaholicanon · 04-02-2007, 12:06 PM

bump for you

StuartD · 04-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

99% of people won't hate in person. Those going to a show are either successful already or there to create new business. Pissing others off at a show wouldn't be wise, regardless of right or wrong.

Indeed, at shows you tend to hear "Oh, I can't go to that party, _____ will be there!!" and just avoid any altercation.

jayeff · 04-02-2007, 02:58 PM

Grow up people. This isn't remedial school. What has "hating" got to do with anything?

Online porn is growing up. That's an inevitability. In another decade or so, it won't be recognizable as the same industry as today and most of the people who are here today will be gone and forgotten. In the long run, the only impact AFF's business "ethics" will have on anyone but themselves, is that the process might take a couple of years longer than it would if someone with their influence on the industry were pushing for higher standards and not trying to hold us back to lower ones.

In the short term, if anything emotional is involved at all, it's respect. You want to respect someone who apparently thinks that both this industry and the company of which it is part are unique? Go ahead. I'm damn glad I'm on the other "side", not least because the whole time Lars was laying low, barely a handful of people had anything good to say about him. Now he is back, they come out of the woodwork. In my book that makes them gutless, as well as stupid.

Lesson #1: no industry has ever stayed long in its wild west phase. Not one. Ever. Don't take my word for it, you can check for yourself.

Lesson #2: being a pioneer only gets you a place in the history books so long as you make it to the next phase. In every mature industry, you can about count on one hand, the number who were smart enough to know when to stop breaking rules and start using them. Again, check for yourself.

And you know what is the dumbest thing of all? This is supposed to be about money, but another inevitability of economic development cycles is that the real money starts when an industry gets to the next level. You want to be really smart? Forget about stealing from each other and get back to the business of selling. Sure it's harder, but it's going to get a lot harder. Where do you think you will be in 5 or 10 years, if you keep playing at the same-old, same-old, while new people are coming up who from day one have needed to be good enough to compete in today's market?

GrouchyAdmin · 04-02-2007, 03:07 PM

Not really. Franck, SquishyPimp, Splum, dissipate, and I all have detractors.

But good work on the ego.

sperbonzo · 04-02-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

Lesson #1: no industry has ever stayed long in its wild west phase. Not one. Ever. Don't take my word for it, you can check for yourself.

Lesson #2: being a pioneer only gets you a place in the history books so long as you make it to the next phase. In every mature industry, you can about count on one hand, the number who were smart enough to know when to stop breaking rules and start using them. Again, check for yourself.

And you know what is the dumbest thing of all? This is supposed to be about money, but another inevitability of economic development cycles is that the real money starts when an industry gets to the next level. You want to be really smart? Forget about stealing from each other and get back to the business of selling. Sure it's harder, but it's going to get a lot harder. Where do you think you will be in 5 or 10 years, if you keep playing at the same-old, same-old, while new people are coming up who from day one have needed to be good enough to compete in today's market?

This part of your post is outstanding.

webmasterchecks · 04-02-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Actually drinks are free and everywhere I went people were buying me breakfast and dinner, I really appreciate all the kind people at the shows. I kinda feel sad for those of you who think its about buying a drink, the reason people like me is I am a nice and a genuine Guy

well, ill say this. i used to think you were a decent guy, felt neutral on the zango thing, then i had a chance to observe you at the phoenix forum this year.

you struck me as a cocky, arrogant asshole, with a (previously) good pr campaign, just wanted the chance to say that

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 04:07 PM

Its worth pointing out Lars that 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, you would have had 100 people posting about how great you are within minutes, they would be babbling on and on about how great cams.com is and supporting you. If the recent lack of support even from sigwhores doesn't make you start asking questions or wake you up, then you are beyond saving.

the worst part is that you could turn things around in an afternoon. you could be one of the industries saviors. you could be a leader. you could use your substantial resources and influence to start fighting problems rather than taking a stance like "well, as the industries major players, we are just going to start fucking over everyone pre-emptively" - you could fight the problem. you could clean the business up. you could take an ethical stand and fight for whats right. you could take a stand and fight for the affiliates that send you traffic rather than supporting every scammer on the net that shares stolen content... you still have the power to make a huge difference.

its a shame for this industry that you choose to act like a bitter, stubborn child instead.

philguy · 04-02-2007, 04:17 PM

Pointing out someone is a thief isn't "hating". Would you say the person that identified the robber at a convenience store is a "hater" because they pointed out the thief?

You made your money stealing music and now stealing traffic. It's natural for you.

BusterBunny · 04-02-2007, 04:21 PM

will you make me the highest paid sigwhore in history pleaseee

Xplicit · 04-02-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

You know you have made it when you have your own band of hater followers.

.... when half the people who hate you USED to support you, thats not called "making it".

Legendary_Samir · 04-02-2007, 04:51 PM

67 kiss assers in here!

Scootermuze · 04-02-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

...........
you could clean the business up. you could take an ethical stand and fight for whats right. you could take a stand and fight for the affiliates that send you traffic rather than supporting every scammer on the net that shares stolen content... you still have the power to make a huge difference.
..........

There are some in this, and other industries that have no interest in the rest of that industry.. They have one goal and that is to make money, by whatever means possible.. To these people, ethics is of little importance if it affects the bottom line.

People with little or no ethics will remain so.. Their money buys them friends, attention, and cool, "Look at me!" things. This is more important to them than respect or ethics.. There are a number of them out & about.. They know who they are.. If they can live with it, I can live without it..

RFremont · 04-02-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

what i care about is the fact that this industry is FULL of scumbags and liars and rip off artists, continually driving towards its own implosion with no shortage of idiots lined up to kiss the ass of the thief.

Brilliantly put.

It's simply astounding the few that actually defend a model that steals from affiliates. Bizarre really.

RFremont · 04-02-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

So now someone else is buying the zango traffic there has been no net change in traffic sent by zango, but where are all the threads bashing all teh people who jumped in to take up the slack ? Where are the people screaming about zango still popping on Adult friend Finder Affilaites ? Its still happening now its just competitor pops. Alas this was all just a bash on Adult friend Finder and a personal attack on me it had nothign to do with zango just an easy excuse, here we are still talking about Adult Friend Finder and zaango even though there are 50 people who are now buying the same spots nothign changed just different faces is all. But go on keep the Bash alive LOL your all really showing where your true colors are today. Bashers for the sake of bashing, you could all give a shit just a convenient vehicle.

I think he does make one valid point here; that the sexsearch rats have gone virtually unscathed by simply laying low in the sewers and not addressing the issue in ANY capacity. I'm sure they are reading this post along with the dozens of other ones where people ask sexsearch's position and they avoided it. Just another reminder that it's not going away, sexsearch.

Sean · 04-02-2007, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

Its worth pointing out Lars that 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, you would have had 100 people posting about how great you are within minutes, they would be babbling on and on about how great cams.com is and supporting you. If the recent lack of support even from sigwhores doesn't make you start asking questions or wake you up, then you are beyond saving.

the worst part is that you could turn things around in an afternoon. you could be one of the industries saviors. you could be a leader. you could use your substantial resources and influence to start fighting problems rather than taking a stance like "well, as the industries major players, we are just going to start fucking over everyone pre-emptively" - you could fight the problem. you could clean the business up. you could take an ethical stand and fight for whats right. you could take a stand and fight for the affiliates that send you traffic rather than supporting every scammer on the net that shares stolen content... you still have the power to make a huge difference.

its a shame for this industry that you choose to act like a bitter, stubborn child instead.

you are angry. does it help any that i love you?

JenniDahling · 04-02-2007, 05:34 PM

Add em to the list of mine and they can have a party!

Last time I heard I was a tranny

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER

well, ill say this. i used to think you were a decent guy, felt neutral on the zango thing, then i had a chance to observe you at the phoenix forum this year.

you struck me as a cocky, arrogant asshole, with a (previously) good pr campaign, just wanted the chance to say that

Thats too bad, I am totally not the way you describe in fact I am quite the opposite.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

Grow up people. This isn't remedial school. What has "hating" got to do with anything?

Online porn is growing up. That's an inevitability. In another decade or so, it won't be recognizable as the same industry as today and most of the people who are here today will be gone and forgotten. In the long run, the only impact AFF's business "ethics" will have on anyone but themselves, is that the process might take a couple of years longer than it would if someone with their influence on the industry were pushing for higher standards and not trying to hold us back to lower ones.

In the short term, if anything emotional is involved at all, it's respect. You want to respect someone who apparently thinks that both this industry and the company of which it is part are unique? Go ahead. I'm damn glad I'm on the other "side", not least because the whole time Lars was laying low, barely a handful of people had anything good to say about him. Now he is back, they come out of the woodwork. In my book that makes them gutless, as well as stupid.

Lesson #1: no industry has ever stayed long in its wild west phase. Not one. Ever. Don't take my word for it, you can check for yourself.

Lesson #2: being a pioneer only gets you a place in the history books so long as you make it to the next phase. In every mature industry, you can about count on one hand, the number who were smart enough to know when to stop breaking rules and start using them. Again, check for yourself.

And you know what is the dumbest thing of all? This is supposed to be about money, but another inevitability of economic development cycles is that the real money starts when an industry gets to the next level. You want to be really smart? Forget about stealing from each other and get back to the business of selling. Sure it's harder, but it's going to get a lot harder. Where do you think you will be in 5 or 10 years, if you keep playing at the same-old, same-old, while new people are coming up who from day one have needed to be good enough to compete in today's market?

You forget one thing I already outlasted most of the gunslingers from the early days. I have been here since 1995 I have seen many like you come and go. I am happy with the money I made if someone else makes the REAL money then so be it I am not trying to see who has a better anything or the biggest whatever I already WON hahahhahahahaa

free4porn · 04-02-2007, 05:45 PM

i'm always late in these threads

QuaWee · 04-02-2007, 05:48 PM

starts a thread and acts like ripping affiliates off is ok lol

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

you are angry. does it help any that i love you?

don't flatter yourself. i am not angry at all. i enjoy the fact that you guys are slowly imploding as the result of your behavior. i would like to see a company held liable for their behavior in this industry for a change. i would like to see people start standing up for what is right. i would like to see industry leaders fight those like your companies, who just don't give a shit about the industry or webmasters.

BUT... lets assume i am in fact "angry" - like every other post you and Lars have made, that still has nothing to do with the issues at hand, or the facts as they unfolded.

so... ok... i am angry. well, you are an employee of what is most likely the webs biggest supporter of stolen content, password trading and warez... and have a company that has been more than open about the fact that it won't change anytime soon.

i can always get over my "anger"

BUT

can you guys stop your unethical behavior?

can you guys stop supporting spyware?

can you guys stop stealing peoples traffic with spyware?

can you guys stop supporting password traders?

can you guys stop supporting warez sites?

can you guys stop supporting forums with stolen content and all those building sites/pages with stolen content?

you steal from hardworking webmasters. that has always been an issue that comes up from time to time, over the years... but wow... seeing someone point out how you are robbing affiliates and then watching you guys publically say "yeah, well... get used to it" was beyond bizarre.

and hopefully, its time for people to be upset enough about what they are losing, and start seeing the big picture, rather than caring about the "cool factor", who buys the drinks and what car the guy they try to suck up to drives.

you guys use more than zango... care to talk about that?

SomeCreep · 04-02-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER

well, ill say this. i used to think you were a decent guy, felt neutral on the zango thing, then i had a chance to observe you at the phoenix forum this year.

you struck me as a cocky, arrogant asshole, with a (previously) good pr campaign, just wanted the chance to say that

I think you saw him the way you wanted to see him.

I've met and talked with Lars a couple of times and he is not cocky or arrogant. He doesnt care whether you make $10,000/year or $10,000,000, he still makes the time to talk with you and treats you with respect. He struck me as being very "down to earth."

porno jew · 04-02-2007, 06:01 PM

legendary lensman rocks!

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I think you saw him the way you wanted to see him.

I've met and talked with Lars a couple of times and he is not cocky or arrogant. He doesnt care whether you make $10,000/year or $10,000,000, he still makes the time to talk with you and treats you with respect. He struck me as being very "down to earth."

Thanks I appreciate that, I found a few people approch me with hesitation, but when they spoke with me they found that I am actually a very nice guy. I totally disagree with many of the posts in here, about my ethics or my integrity, I believe those who question my ethics or integrity really dont ahave a clue as to who I really am or what I really stand for. I have turned down huge ammounts of money in the past on stuff in this industry I thought was shady or unethical. Anyone who has been around for more than 5 years can attest to the fact that I have always been more above board than many of my peers. A few of you are dilusional as to the facts and I disagree with many of your viewpoints. You continue to beat a dead horse to fit whatever sick agenda you have. I think its about time I got back to making money hand over fist and forget once again the haters on this board, as they have little to no impact on my life as a whole.

CaptainHowdy · 04-02-2007, 06:15 PM

Best month EVAR !!

BusterBunny · 04-02-2007, 06:19 PM

show me the moneyyyyyyyyyyy

will76 · 04-02-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

So now someone else is buying the zango traffic there has been no net change in traffic sent by zango, but where are all the threads bashing all teh people who jumped in to take up the slack ? Where are the people screaming about zango still popping on Adult friend Finder Affilaites ? Its still happening now its just competitor pops. Alas this was all just a bash on Adult friend Finder and a personal attack on me it had nothign to do with zango just an easy excuse, here we are still talking about Adult Friend Finder and zaango even though there are 50 people who are now buying the same spots nothign changed just different faces is all. But go on keep the Bash alive LOL your all really showing where your true colors are today. Bashers for the sake of bashing, you could all give a shit just a convenient vehicle.

no dickhead, when will you fucking learn.

Those other companies have ignored the issue. If you wouldn't have made SEVERAL posts insulting people, trying to defand your use of zango, down playing it as no big deal, etc... than you wouldn't have seen a fraction of the hate you received. YOU added the fuel to the fire. YOU put focus on yourself. Thank your buddy Zango too for "outing" you.

You got bashed more because of *YOUR* actions than the fact that AFF used zango. You would make one bullshit thread calling people sheep and that would spawn 20 " AFF / LARS / Zango " threads.

You still haven't learned because even though AFF has stopped using zango you are still here rubbing it in people's faces, making excuses for it, and you are still worried about what people are saying about the other companies and not about your own. It's one thing to support a company that takes 1% of people's sales but it's another thing to laugh and insult someone as you steal from them. Unfortunetly it's the nature of most people, take a few bucks from them, they might look the other way or not say much about it, spit in their face and take .50 cents from them and they will hate you forever. For me it's enough to piss me off that I am being stolen from, but most people are how I explained above.

Here is proof to what I am saying, Back in November you were making all your bull shit post there were 100's of AFF / Zango threads, then Andrew took away your keyboard for 4 months, the AFF / Zango posts here all but disapeared. Here Lars pops back up with all his bullshit threads again rubbing it everyone's face and look, more bashing threads are started.

You will never learn and until you admitt what you did was wrong, and let it go, ignore the posts and try to move on it is never going to get any better for you. You seem to like the attention but not the criticism.

Is zango still happening the same, most likely. Is other companies getting the same amount of attention ? no, but they also don't have a moron spokesman rubbing shit in everyone's face either. I can assure you if sex search responded the same way you did they would get the same amount of attention.

And besides what do you care, you have said all this attention makes you more money, so why do you want us to put more attention on your competition, per your logic that would make them more money. So it seems like your were just lieing again with those comments as well.

RudeBoy · 04-02-2007, 06:23 PM

hello LegendaryLars aka axis of evil aka iran

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

I totally disagree with many of the posts in here, about my ethics or my integrity, I believe those who question my ethics or integrity really dont ahave a clue as to who I really am or what I really stand for.

Fact 1:
you got caught stealing

Fact 2:
it took you several days to even think about how to address the issue and when you did, you posted a response that was obviously not written by you

Fact 3:
you defending using Zango by stating that you had no choice because you were doing it to protect your own trademarks

Fact 4:
you then began insulting people that were pointing out what was going on.

Fact 5:
your defense of your behavior was completely irrational and illogical because you are just one person bidding on your own URL's - meaning that there are still many more people bidding on your URL's... so you aren't "protecting your trademarks" at all.

if there was ANY intention of actually protecting the trademarks of a 200,000,000.00 a year company... it could be done with a simple legal letter.

Fact 6:
it was then discovered that you were bidding on many adult URL's... including those who were defending you (much to their own shock and dismay)

thats because you are a standup guy and "genuine" friend

Fact 7:
you continued to defend that behavior

Fact 8:
in what will prove to be the most insane PR mistep of the year, you announce months later that you are not going to use Zango anymore because its unprofitable. this was supposed to be a dig at Will and those against it. ironically, it was also a bizarre way of stating that you would gleefully continue to hijack peoples traffic had it been profitable to do so

Fact 9:
arguing as to the profitabiliy of using Zango contradicts your original stated purpose of why you were doing it - to protect your trademarks

Fact 10:
you can't directly dispute any facts or events as they unfolded. you fucked up bad. you are no longer the GFY Golden Promo boy... you can only keep calling people "haters", keep alluding to the notion that people "don't have all the facts" (which also gives the sycophants an out) and keep calling those who call you out on what your doing "sheep" - and keep talking about making bazillions of dollars to impress the ass kissers.

Fact 11:
You were busted. Cams.com was busted. on top of the zango fiasco, AFF is still the biggest supporter of illegal behavior on the internet and you still refuse to even so much as admit or accept any responsibility for anything you have done to hurt everyone in this industry.

RudeBoy · 04-02-2007, 06:35 PM

Fact 12:
LegendaryLars aka axis of evil aka iran is making money while we speak

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

Fact 1:
you got caught stealing

Fact 2:
it took you several days to even think about how to address the issue and when you did, you posted a response that was obviously not written by you

Fact 3:
you defending using Zango by stating that you had no choice because you were doing it to protect your own trademarks

Fact 4:
you then began insulting people that were pointing out what was going on.

Fact 5:
your defense of your behavior was completely irrational and illogical because you are just one person bidding on your own URL's - meaning that there are still many more people bidding on your URL's... so you aren't "protecting your trademarks" at all.

if there was ANY intention of actually protecting the trademarks of a 200,000,000.00 a year company... it could be done with a simple legal letter.

Fact 6:
it was then discovered that you were bidding on many adult URL's... including those who were defending you (much to their own shock and dismay)

thats because you are a standup guy and "genuine" friend

Fact 7:
you continued to defend that behavior

Fact 8:
in what will prove to be the most insane PR mistep of the year, you announce months later that you are not going to use Zango anymore because its unprofitable. this was supposed to be a dig at Will and those against it. ironically, it was also a bizarre way of stating that you would gleefully continue to hijack peoples traffic had it been profitable to do so

Fact 9:
arguing as to the profitabiliy of using Zango contradicts your original stated purpose of why you were doing it - to protect your trademarks

Fact 10:
you can't directly dispute any facts or events as they unfolded. you fucked up bad. you are no longer the GFY Golden Promo boy... you can only keep calling people "haters", keep alluding to the notion that people "don't have all the facts" (which also gives the sycophants an out) and keep calling those who call you out on what your doing "sheep" - and keep talking about making bazillions of dollars to impress the ass kissers.

Fact 11:
You were busted. Cams.com was busted. on top of the zango fiasco, AFF is still the biggest supporter of illegal behavior on the internet and you still refuse to even so much as admit or accept any responsibility for anything you have done to hurt everyone in this industry.

your facts are not very Factual

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

no dickhead, when will you fucking learn.

Those other companies have ignored the issue. If you wouldn't have made SEVERAL posts insulting people, trying to defand your use of zango, down playing it as no big deal, etc... than you wouldn't have seen a fraction of the hate you received. YOU added the fuel to the fire. YOU put focus on yourself. Thank your buddy Zango too for "outing" you.

You got bashed more because of *YOUR* actions than the fact that AFF used zango. You would make one bullshit thread calling people sheep and that would spawn 20 " AFF / LARS / Zango " threads.

You still haven't learned because even though AFF has stopped using zango you are still here rubbing it in people's faces, making excuses for it, and you are still worried about what people are saying about the other companies and not about your own. It's one thing to support a company that takes 1% of people's sales but it's another thing to laugh and insult someone as you steal from them. Unfortunetly it's the nature of most people, take a few bucks from them, they might look the other way or not say much about it, spit in their face and take .50 cents from them and they will hate you forever. For me it's enough to piss me off that I am being stolen from, but most people are how I explained above.

Here is proof to what I am saying, Back in November you were making all your bull shit post there were 100's of AFF / Zango threads, then Andrew took away your keyboard for 4 months, the AFF / Zango posts here all but disapeared. Here Lars pops back up with all his bullshit threads again rubbing it everyone's face and look, more bashing threads are started.

You will never learn and until you admitt what you did was wrong, and let it go, ignore the posts and try to move on it is never going to get any better for you. You seem to like the attention but not the criticism.

Is zango still happening the same, most likely. Is other companies getting the same amount of attention ? no, but they also don't have a moron spokesman rubbing shit in everyone's face either. I can assure you if sex search responded the same way you did they would get the same amount of attention.

And besides what do you care, you have said all this attention makes you more money, so why do you want us to put more attention on your competition, per your logic that would make them more money. So it seems like your were just lieing again with those comments as well.

I have outed you for exactly what youa re a board Whore

You still are going on and on about us and zango while zango is very happily doing buisness as usual. This just proves that the whole thing has been a sham and an agenda from the begining your a fraud ! You just twist words to fit yoru agenda your a good keyboard worrior i will give you that but other than that your pretty pathetic. I never called any affilaites sheep is one example what I said is those that just follow blindly without doing investigation on their own are sheep, but you ahve twisted and promoted liek I called affialites sheep which I never did. But you must have posted a 100 times now that I said affilaites were sheep. A blatent twisted lie on your part.

webmasterchecks · 04-02-2007, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I think you saw him the way you wanted to see him.

I've met and talked with Lars a couple of times and he is not cocky or arrogant. He doesnt care whether you make $10,000/year or $10,000,000, he still makes the time to talk with you and treats you with respect. He struck me as being very "down to earth."

naw, i saw him being an ass to somebody. thats the cool thing about these boards, i can comment on that. i have no agenda at all, i wanted to like him

but he started this thread pointing out that he has haters, and i pointed out 1 of the reasons that he might

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER

naw, i saw him being an ass to somebody. thats the cool thing about these boards, i can comment on that. i have no agenda at all, i wanted to like him

but he started this thread pointing out that he has haters, and i pointed out 1 of the reasons that he might

Really who was I an ass to I would like to know so I can appologize to that person.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER

naw, i saw him being an ass to somebody. thats the cool thing about these boards, i can comment on that. i have no agenda at all, i wanted to like him

but he started this thread pointing out that he has haters, and i pointed out 1 of the reasons that he might

Really who was I an ass to I would like to know so I can appologize to that person.

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

your facts are not very Factual

riiiiiiiight.

all is well.

no one defends you anymore, you have obviously lost almost all influence you had in this community and no one is fooled by your bullshit.... but i am sure you have no trouble explaining that away too.

here's a great idea... why don't you sue someone for libel for calling you guys out. then we'll get a chance to crawl through your servers, affiliate software and traffic logs and depose your employees to prove what a standup guy you are and what an ethical guy you are.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:52 PM

its sad really though that I only have like 5-10 haters the ones who have been the most vocal these last few months. But I am certain that now we will not hear much if anything about zango as this really had nothing to do with zango it had to do with bashing me and my company. Where are all the threads with screencaps of the companies who are now popping up over Adult Friend Finder affilaites. I prolly should start a few

will76 · 04-02-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

.... when half the people who hate you USED to support you, thats not called "making it".

This is true. This is what I use to think of Lars (posted a couple weeks before the Zango stuff came out on another board.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Just curious if you have one or two people in mind who you have gotten to know and like.

I tend to be more partial to the people who came from nothing and made it big, against all odds. People who have put in the hours, scratched and clawed their way to the top (ethically, never stole or cheated anyone to get there).....

Personally, I like Lar's story ( from Cams.com) . Seems like a great guy from little I have talked to him, very professional, never has a bad thing to say online even when provoked, and he has accomplished a lot in the last 10 years.

So who do you look up too? If anyone and why ?

Man was I wrong about you. You try to say this was personal ? That's bullshit and you know it. Why would I NEVER say 1 bad thing about you for 3 years and even make a post that I admired you, just 3 weeks before the zango stuff came out IF it was personal and all i wanted to do was bash you and AFF.

That makes 0 sense. Stop trying to deflect the fact that you dug your own hole, you got caught and exposed, and people do not like you because of what YOU did and how YOU responded to it.

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

its sad really though that I only have like 5-10 haters the ones who have been the most vocal these last few months. But I am certain that now we will not hear much if anything about zango as this really had nothing to do with zango it had to do with bashing me and my company. Where are all the threads with screencaps of the companies who are now popping up over Adult Friend Finder affilaites. I prolly should start a few

the drama had to do with your reaction and defense of your behavior and robbing your affiliates ... not AFF or cams.com

then you compound it by saying "we decided to stop because its not profitable to hijack your traffic anymore" as if that made perfect sense.

must be a lot of great weed in Santa Cruz.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

This is true. This is what I use to think of Lars (posted a couple weeks before the Zango stuff came out on another board.)

Man was I wrong about you. You try to say this was personal ? That's bullshit and you know it. Why would I NEVER say 1 bad thing about you for 3 years and even make a post that I admired you, just 3 weeks before the zango stuff came out IF it was personal and all i wanted to do was bash you and AFF.

That makes 0 sense. Stop trying to deflect the fact that you dug your own hole, you got caught and exposed, and people do not like you because of what YOU did and how YOU responded to it.

Your pathetic its toally personal ! If it was about zango and Adware you would be on a crusade to stop it instead for 4 month you just bashed and bashed and bashed in my direction and now that we dont got here your still bashing and not outing the companies still doing buisness there thats because you have an agenda. Not becasue you are a rightous crusader. Totally predictable and totally weak.

will76 · 04-02-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

I am happy with the money I made if someone else makes the REAL money then so be it I am not trying to see who has a better anything or the biggest whatever I already WON hahahhahahahaa

great attitude.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the drama had to do with your reaction and defense of your behavior and robbing your affiliates ... not AFF or cams.com

then you compound it by saying "we decided to stop because its not profitable to hijack your traffic anymore" as if that made perfect sense.

must be a lot of great weed in Santa Cruz.

You also are pretty pathetic and its starting to show exactly what your agenda is also, are youa fake nick of will 76 it sure seems like it.

Xenophage · 04-02-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

great attitude.

hahahaha what saying i dont really resent others for being successfull as you obviously do. Its your attitude thats pretty sad here really.

Pleasurepays · 04-02-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

You also are pretty pathetic and its starting to show exactly what your agenda is also, are youa fake nick of will 76 it sure seems like it.

my agenda? simple... i want to see SOMEONE in this fucking business be held accountable for stealing, scaming and theiving behavior.

your agenda? make moronic statements in a weak attempt to direct attention away from the facts. the fact is you got busted... then you attacked those who were upset about thier traffic being stolen, then you defended stealing traffic.. then you later say "we stopped using zango because its not profitable to steal your traffic anymore".

make more money. make all the money you need, using any and all means possible if you think it will fill the hole inside you. you sound more like someone that desperately needs a hug or larger dick.

hopefully, this issue will never die. if you are going to be unapologetic about blatent theft, then others should be unapologetic about constantly raising the
issue

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04-02-2007, 04:07 PM	#63
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	Its worth pointing out Lars that 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, you would have had 100 people posting about how great you are within minutes, they would be babbling on and on about how great cams.com is and supporting you. If the recent lack of support even from sigwhores doesn't make you start asking questions or wake you up, then you are beyond saving. the worst part is that you could turn things around in an afternoon. you could be one of the industries saviors. you could be a leader. you could use your substantial resources and influence to start fighting problems rather than taking a stance like "well, as the industries major players, we are just going to start fucking over everyone pre-emptively" - you could fight the problem. you could clean the business up. you could take an ethical stand and fight for whats right. you could take a stand and fight for the affiliates that send you traffic rather than supporting every scammer on the net that shares stolen content... you still have the power to make a huge difference. its a shame for this industry that you choose to act like a bitter, stubborn child instead. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 04-02-2007 at 04:09 PM..

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04-02-2007, 02:58 PM	#59
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Grow up people. This isn't remedial school. What has "hating" got to do with anything? Online porn is growing up. That's an inevitability. In another decade or so, it won't be recognizable as the same industry as today and most of the people who are here today will be gone and forgotten. In the long run, the only impact AFF's business "ethics" will have on anyone but themselves, is that the process might take a couple of years longer than it would if someone with their influence on the industry were pushing for higher standards and not trying to hold us back to lower ones. In the short term, if anything emotional is involved at all, it's respect. You want to respect someone who apparently thinks that both this industry and the company of which it is part are unique? Go ahead. I'm damn glad I'm on the other "side", not least because the whole time Lars was laying low, barely a handful of people had anything good to say about him. Now he is back, they come out of the woodwork. In my book that makes them gutless, as well as stupid. Lesson #1: no industry has ever stayed long in its wild west phase. Not one. Ever. Don't take my word for it, you can check for yourself. Lesson #2: being a pioneer only gets you a place in the history books so long as you make it to the next phase. In every mature industry, you can about count on one hand, the number who were smart enough to know when to stop breaking rules and start using them. Again, check for yourself. And you know what is the dumbest thing of all? This is supposed to be about money, but another inevitability of economic development cycles is that the real money starts when an industry gets to the next level. You want to be really smart? Forget about stealing from each other and get back to the business of selling. Sure it's harder, but it's going to get a lot harder. Where do you think you will be in 5 or 10 years, if you keep playing at the same-old, same-old, while new people are coming up who from day one have needed to be good enough to compete in today's market?

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Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	its sad really though that I only have like 5-10 haters the ones who have been the most vocal these last few months. But I am certain that now we will not hear much if anything about zango as this really had nothing to do with zango it had to do with bashing me and my company. Where are all the threads with screencaps of the companies who are now popping up over Adult Friend Finder affilaites. I prolly should start a few