2257 and non-US based webmasters... some questions... - GoFuckYourself.com

NinjaSteve · 04-04-2007, 11:32 PM

Here's what I'm seeing, do you think this is correct?

Must have 2257 docs
Person living in the U.S. and hosting in the U.S.

Maybe should have 2257 docs (to keep hosting account)
Person living OUTSIDE of the U.S. and hosting in the U.S.

Not required to have 2257 docs
Person living OUTSIDE the U.S. and hosting OUTSIDE the U.S.

* So let's say you're in the UK and you host in the UK, this should mean you're not subject to U.S. 2257 laws?

* Let's say you're a U.S. Citizen but live (330+ days a year) outside the U.S. and host outside of the U.S. this should mean you're not subject to U.S. 2257 laws?

RawAlex · 04-04-2007, 11:39 PM

(let me state up front I AM NOT A LAWYER, so take this only as IMHO):

Hosting doesn't appear to be a real indicator. Hosts are exempt specifically (there is another thread on that somewhere). The place of publication is they key. Your office, where you work, where your company is located, that is the place of publication.

As for US citizens living all their lives outside of the US, that would certainly be one for a good lawyer. I would have to say though that attempts to circumvent the rules by hiding in another country may not help, doubly so if this ends up backdating to 1995 or whatever.

Good luck.

darksoul · 04-04-2007, 11:41 PM

It doesn't matter where you host.
If you're living in the US you can't avoid it and if you're outside of US you're safe.

Bloomer · 04-04-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Here's what I'm seeing, do you think this is correct?

Must have 2257 docs
Person living in the U.S. and hosting in the U.S.

Maybe should have 2257 docs (to keep hosting account)
Person living OUTSIDE of the U.S. and hosting in the U.S.

Not required to have 2257 docs
Person living OUTSIDE the U.S. and hosting OUTSIDE the U.S.

* So let's say you're in the UK and you host in the UK, this should mean you're not subject to U.S. 2257 laws?

* Let's say you're a U.S. Citizen but live (330+ days a year) outside the U.S. and host outside of the U.S. this should mean you're not subject to U.S. 2257 laws?

you people always come out with the same thing WHAT IF WE ALL JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY?

Do you realize that certain countries will chop your left hand off for stealing?

Other countries also have BANNED porn all together?

Ever heard this one?

If everyone in China was to jump up in the air all at once the Earth would be knocked out of its orbit!

Now think about how much traffic in porn we have lost with that!

ichauch · 04-05-2007, 02:41 AM

Interesting. I always thought I was subject to 2257 as well (living outside the U.S., but hosting in the U.S.)

Bloomer · 04-05-2007, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomer

you people always come out with the same thing WHAT IF WE ALL JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY?

Do you realize that certain countries will chop your left hand off for stealing?

Other countries also have BANNED porn all together?

Ever heard this one?

If everyone in China was to jump up in the air all at once the Earth would be knocked out of its orbit!

Now think about how much traffic in porn we have lost with that!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721322

NinjaSteve · 04-05-2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomer

you people always come out with the same thing WHAT IF WE ALL JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY?

Do you realize that certain countries will chop your left hand off for stealing?

Other countries also have BANNED porn all together?

Ever heard this one?

If everyone in China was to jump up in the air all at once the Earth would be knocked out of its orbit!

Now think about how much traffic in porn we have lost with that!

I'm not coming up with some solution, I'm talking about right now. There are some US webmasters living in Thailand and Costa Rica all year long.

04-05-2007, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomer

you people always come out with the same thing WHAT IF WE ALL JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY?

Do you realize that certain countries will chop your left hand off for stealing?

Other countries also have BANNED porn all together?

Ever heard this one?

If everyone in China was to jump up in the air all at once the Earth would be knocked out of its orbit!

Now think about how much traffic in porn we have lost with that!

Come on up, we are a friendly folk and it's illegal for us to hand out personal information to strangers. And all our police look like this.

RawAlex · 04-05-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick

Come on up, we are a friendly folk and it's illegal for us to hand out personal information to strangers. And all our police look like this.

We aren't sure who the guy in the red is though... a giant Kebbler Elf?

starpimps · 04-05-2007, 10:23 AM

i guess its a good time to be a canuck

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	(let me state up front I AM NOT A LAWYER, so take this only as IMHO): Hosting doesn't appear to be a real indicator. Hosts are exempt specifically (there is another thread on that somewhere). The place of publication is they key. Your office, where you work, where your company is located, that is the place of publication. As for US citizens living all their lives outside of the US, that would certainly be one for a good lawyer. I would have to say though that attempts to circumvent the rules by hiding in another country may not help, doubly so if this ends up backdating to 1995 or whatever. Good luck.