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Old 04-11-2007, 04:31 PM   #1
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Pope says science too narrow to explain creation

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070411/...e_evolution_dc

Of course a better answer is some magic man in the sky created everything. Of course the Pope never explains who or what created God. His answer of course would be "God was always here", but somehow this answer for the universe itself is not acceptable to them.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:32 PM   #2
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Of course a better answer is some magic man in the sky created everything. Of course the Pope never explains who or what created God. His answer of course would be "God was always here", but somehow this answer for the universe itself is not acceptable to them.
EXACTLY
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:34 PM   #3
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Of course a better answer is some magic man in the sky created everything. Of course the Pope never explains who or what created God. His answer of course would be "God was always here", but somehow this answer for the universe itself is not acceptable to them.
When I saw your thread title, I thought I would respond, but you seem to have summed up what I was going to say...

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Old 04-11-2007, 04:34 PM   #4
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Of course a better answer is some magic man in the sky created everything. Of course the Pope never explains who or what created God. His answer of course would be "God was always here", but somehow this answer for the universe itself is not acceptable to them.
Ok just like you cant explain who created the matter that made the material up of the big bang. Check. Mate.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:40 PM   #5
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This message is hidden because Splum is on your ignore list.

Appearantly you don't get this yet.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:43 PM   #6
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Ok just like you cant explain who created the matter that made the material up of the big bang. Check. Mate.
dude, you can be a conservative without being a dumb ass illiterate about science.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:43 PM   #7
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Fuck the Pope, who cares what he says.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:45 PM   #8
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Ok just like you cant explain who created the matter that made the material up of the big bang. Check. Mate.
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dude, you can be a conservative without being a dumb ass illiterate about science.
Tell science to explain WHERE DID THE MATTER THAT MADE THE BIG BANG COME FROM? Once you can explain that you can call me dumb illiterate etc. until then science is just as correct as religion.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:16 PM   #9
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Tell science to explain WHERE DID THE MATTER THAT MADE THE BIG BANG COME FROM? Once you can explain that you can call me dumb illiterate etc. until then science is just as correct as religion.
Dude, I said what I said because I don't think anyone has ever told you that it's ok... you can be a Republican and not be a dumb ass illiterate about science.

The problem is, the answer to your question is out there, but you don't want to read it. Again and again you say the most asinine BS about science because you are willfully ignorant about it.

Spend the day reading www.talkorigins.org for your answers. Why should I spend my day copy and pasting links from there, do your own fucking homework if you want to learn about science, I've already passed all of my science courses years ago.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:19 PM   #10
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Too narrow? that's the same as being too specific right?
It's more factual to generalize and have broader definitions to allow for any unworldy possibility.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:22 PM   #11
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Why does anyone care what the pope thinks... He lives in a fantasy world.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:25 PM   #12
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Tell science to explain WHERE DID THE MATTER THAT MADE THE BIG BANG COME FROM? Once you can explain that you can call me dumb illiterate etc. until then science is just as correct as religion.
And BTW, you aren't even asking about evolution, which is what this thread is about, your question refers to abiogenesis.

I'm sure you have no clue what that means so why not head over to talkorigins and find out before you look like even a bigger knucklehead.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:09 PM   #13
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And BTW, you aren't even asking about evolution, which is what this thread is about, your question refers to abiogenesis. I'm sure you have no clue what that means so why not head over to talkorigins and find out before you look like even a bigger knucklehead.
That does not explain where the "matter" that formed the big bang came from, are you saying that matter just "was"? Thats exactly what the religious freaks say about God. Fact is you have no fucking clue where the matter that created the big bang came from, nor the origin of that matter, etc etc.

Shut the fuck up with your self righteous religious-like hard on for "science" it cant explain everything. Period.
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Ok just like you cant explain who created the matter that made the material up of the big bang. Check. Mate.
that is of course if we knew that a big bang is how the universe was created. it's only a theory my friend.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:24 PM   #16
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Fuck the Pope, who cares what he says.
A few million (for the most part) ignorant humans.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:27 PM   #17
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Tell science to explain WHERE DID THE MATTER THAT MADE THE BIG BANG COME FROM? Once you can explain that you can call me dumb illiterate etc. until then science is just as correct as religion.
"We don't know yet." is not the same thing as saying "I believe in something without any supporting evidence whatsoever."

Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on faith.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:31 PM   #18
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"We don't know yet." is not the same thing as saying "I believe in something without any supporting evidence whatsoever." Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on faith.
What you dont understand about the "we dont know yet" part is that you will "never know" it is scientifically(just to use your rules) impossible to "know the origin of matter", it is however possible to "believe"(aka have a theory). Therefore those that "believe" God created everything are completely on the same psychological level as those that "believe" there is an answer to be found scientifically.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:32 PM   #19
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omfgwtfbbq. creationism being argued on GFY, that is just wrong... the creationists are deluding themselves in the face of blatant evidence in favor of evolution..
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #20
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The difference between religion and science:

In religion, people accept a book made by man full of magical stories, and accept that as the ultimate truth as to why things are the way they are.

Science however, has the trait of questioning what is out there in a quest to find the truth that can be explained logically and through theories that can be proven. Nothing is ever considered fact until scientifically proven, which is more than religion can say.

Do I believe in a magical book, or evidence that can be backed up? I'll choose evidence any day!
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:39 PM   #21
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that is of course if we knew that a big bang is how the universe was created. it's only a theory my friend.
It is a pretty damn sound and as close to you can get to being certain theory though. Hell we can actually hear the very first sounds of that event even today.

As for splum saying we do not know what created that matter, well um damn it he sort of has a point. Yet any rational person would not leap to an omni present all powerful intellegent deity that gives a rats ass about any of us.

Then for explaing god or creation, that is fairly simple. Go outside during the daylight hours and take a gander at that big ass bright flaming globe in the sky that people once thought revolved around our little planet. There you have it, that is your real god and if you stay up when it goes down over the horizon you will see all of the other deities in our universe. Without them carbon would of never been created along with many other elements and well without them there would be none of us. Thankfully some of them gave up their lives to implode and throw out more dense atoms and form newer deities. As for creation you may want to peek at the very close object that is ever so bright in the night sky. Since odds are that if it had not colided with our planet early on and had been a great deal closer than it currently is, it would not of been able to churn up the water enough to create complex chemical chains or the basics of DNA.

Then again maybe he is right and science is indeed too damn narrow to explain. Afterall how long did it take for the Catholic church to admit the world was not flat, nor the center of the universe?
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