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Old 04-16-2007, 11:25 PM   #1
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:stop Lensman gets OWNED !!??

BY AdultFriendFinder

Type any adult.com / realitycash.com paysite into google and the word torrent

like this
"girls hunting girls torrent"
or
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you will find their entire sites ripped and available for download

and aff will show up as an advertiser in one of the top 5 results almost every single time.

I sure hope lensman owns lots of aff stock..


Before you laugh too hard try doing the same thing with any of the paysites you promote..

pretty sad..

infact heres a challenge. find me ANY paysite thats ripped content DOESNT show up in the top 5 on google with AFF as a sponsor..
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Why do you stir shit up? Is it any of you business?
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p.s. this is not a knock on lensman as every paysite is generally the same , just seems kinda ironic..

Is lars pulling the wool over lensman's eyes or are lensman and lars pulling the wool over our eyes, or is everyone pulling the wool over my eyes ( yikes lol ), sheesh or i could be pulling the wool over everyones eyes. , but that doesnt seem likely or i wouldnt have mentioned it. BAN WOOL
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Why do you stir shit up? Is it any of you business?
umm yes it is , i am an affiliate trying to sell something that is being given away for free 2 spaces above me,

Isnt a very hard concept..
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Supporting people that steal content from affiliate programs and make it so they don't have to pay for it. They also used to use and still allow the use of Zango that allows others to buy your domain as a keyword and steal all your traffic.
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Read AGAIN please...

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you will find their entire sites ripped and available for download

and aff will show up as an advertiser in one of the top 5 results almost every single time.

I sure hope lensman owns lots of aff stock..


Before you laugh too hard try doing the same thing with any of the paysites you promote..

pretty sad..

infact heres a challenge. find me ANY paysite thats ripped content DOESNT show up in the top 5 on google with AFF as a sponsor..
I would hardly call this 'shit-stirring' - why not take the time to pose a question like that to all the meaningless posters that are intentionally offensive, childish etc.?
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I know this sucks but woulnd't someone else they their (aff) place if they didn't do it?
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:50 PM   #17
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I know this sucks but woulnd't someone else they their (aff) place if they didn't do it?
simple answer .. NO

Last year you couldnt type any paysite and a keyword into any se and find full paysites ripped and ready to download.

If this were the case you would see every paysite advertised..

It only works because its a non-competing product.. you cant share webcams and dating via torrents

either way i certainly wouldnt recommend advertising for the guy paying the guy who rips me off
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I would hardly call this 'shit-stirring' - why not take the time to pose a question like that to all the meaningless posters that are intentionally offensive, childish etc.?

So you think if AFF stopped advertising on torrent sites, out of gazillion programs they wouldn't find a new sponsor to promote?

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So you think if AFF stopped advertising on torrent sites, out of gazillion programs they wouldn't find a new sponsor to promote?

How many gazillion advertisers do you think child porn sites use ?

Prob zero , because any sponsor who caught them using them would get canned..

Perhaps you havent read those "gazillion " sponsors terms very carfeull as 99% of them wouldnt allow it..

Thats why you only see bulk ad services like adbrite , spyware like zango and aff
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So you think if AFF stopped advertising on torrent sites, out of gazillion programs they wouldn't find a new sponsor to promote?

If that's what you read from the words I typed out then you completely missed my point.

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"Big Sausage Pizza torrent" first page results

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I would hardly call this 'shit-stirring' - why not take the time to pose a question like that to all the meaningless posters that are intentionally offensive, childish etc.?
So you would be okay with me ripping your entire sites and putting them up on a site running AFF ads? Would you still allow Lars to buy you a beer at the next show? Would you buy him a lapdance at the club?
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So you would be okay with me ripping your entire sites and putting them up on a site running AFF ads? Would you still allow Lars to buy you a beer at the next show? Would you buy him a lapdance at the club?
... umm... what?

Did it look like I was replying to Smokey?
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You're doin some good work here Smokey weeding out the torrent sites, but if they were TG sites I would personally rather get an email or an ICQ about it than a public thread. Unsavory people lurk these boards. There is money in torrents? Lightbulb turns on. Don't let people know there is money in this. Contact sponsors directly and take care of business. There is no need for a public parade. It only gives snakes more ideas. I've said the same thing about Zango a million times.
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How many gazillion advertisers do you think child porn sites use ?

Prob zero , because any sponsor who caught them using them would get canned..

Perhaps you havent read those "gazillion " sponsors terms very carfeull as 99% of them wouldnt allow it..

Thats why you only see bulk ad services like adbrite , spyware like zango and aff

What the hell does it have to do with child porn sites?
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What the hell does it have to do with child porn sites?
hmm perhaps the fact they are both ILLEGAL !!!! , just a minor point i guess lol
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hmm perhaps the fact they are both ILLEGAL !!!! , just a minor point i guess lol
You're an idiot.

(torrent sites aren't illegal)
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You're doin some good work here Smokey weeding out the torrent sites, but if they were TG sites I would personally rather get an email or an ICQ about it than a public thread. Unsavory people lurk these boards. There is money in torrents? Lightbulb turns on. Don't let people know there is money in this. Contact sponsors directly and take care of business. There is no need for a public parade. It only gives snakes more ideas. I've said the same thing about Zango a million times.
problems never go away by ignoring them.. the point of this thread is not realitycash it involves almost every paysite and almost every affiliate, so forgive me for not having the time to track down every piece of stolen content to every sponsor and affiliate..

I dont think me letting lens know about stolen content is going to "inspire" thievery via torrents.. the idea of giving away stolen shit while advertising other stuff is not new, its been around since the internet began.. thats why most sponsors ban adverts on warez sites.. the difference is they dont all advertise on gfy
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lol tell that to the hundreds of court cases finding them illegal and having them shutdown..

I guess we should ignore silly people like judges and such.. and trust your legal opinion
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(torrent sites aren't illegal)
Who exactly is the idiot here? I do believe that would be you...
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p.s. this is not a knock on lensman as every paysite is generally the same , just seems kinda ironic..

Is lars pulling the wool over lensman's eyes or are lensman and lars pulling the wool over our eyes, or is everyone pulling the wool over my eyes ( yikes lol ), sheesh or i could be pulling the wool over everyones eyes. , but that doesnt seem likely or i wouldnt have mentioned it. BAN WOOL
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for every case that torrent sites have won theres 2 that they have lost thats why they have been getting shutdown left and right. of course being illegal is proven in a court of law so many sites still operate only because they havent been charged yet. to say "torrent sites are legal " is silly as each site is different and operates under different circumstances.. ( likewise to say they are all illegal is also just as silly i suppose ) in the examples given .. they are illegal.
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How many gazillion advertisers do you think child porn sites use ?

Prob zero , because any sponsor who caught them using them would get canned..

Perhaps you havent read those "gazillion " sponsors terms very carfeull as 99% of them wouldnt allow it..

Thats why you only see bulk ad services like adbrite , spyware like zango and aff
You forgot SexSearch, Python and Sexbankroll.
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for every case that torrent sites have won theres 2 that they have lost thats why they have been getting shutdown left and right. of course being illegal is proven in a court of law so many sites still operate only because they havent been charged yet. to say "torrent sites are legal " is silly as each site is different and operates under different circumstances.. ( likewise to say they are all illegal is also just as silly i suppose ) in the examples given .. they are illegal.
Our lawyer recently discovered BitTorrent. Needless to say when you see your lawyer giddy as a schoolgirl, you know some trouble's coming and he's gunna make some bank.
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I know this sucks but woulnd't someone else they their (aff) place if they didn't do it?

Not if all the sponsors they try to replace them with drop them. Who wants to shoot themselves in the foot. AFF is one of the few that can support these sites and come out ahead.


I've said this once before and I don't think anyone picked up on it.

AFF doesn't fucking care about you, and by advertising on these sites they don't lose anything but everyone of you do. If you own a paysite you lose because your content is being given away for free. If you are an affiliate you lose because you are trying to sell something that people get for free.

What does AFF lose ? Nothing. They don't have membership sites. People can't get their services for free. Cams and Dating are immune to stolen content.

Take this one step further. AFF makes money off of torent sites. That makes the torent sites profitable so more of them pop up. More content gets stolen and shared on the net, that = less and less money affiliates make promoting other companies. But their AFF and Cams ratio stays good because the stolen content doesn't affect them. So more people promote AFF and not the rest of you. AFF runs all of the competition out of business 2 fold. One by supporting those who give away your content for free and two by making your affiliates make less money so they stop promoting you.

Makes sense?

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You're doin some good work here Smokey weeding out the torrent sites, but if they were TG sites I would personally rather get an email or an ICQ about it than a public thread. Unsavory people lurk these boards. There is money in torrents? Lightbulb turns on. Don't let people know there is money in this. Contact sponsors directly and take care of business. There is no need for a public parade. It only gives snakes more ideas. I've said the same thing about Zango a million times.

yes and you failed to give 1 valid point why zango should be kept hush hush.


LOL classic vvq. never make anything public. everything should be kept quiet, yeah not saying anything will fix the problem....

is this guy for real ?
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AFF's been fucking me for about 8-9 years good and hard and i'm happy about it. Really happy about it.

they've always been good to me.

does that make me gay?
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You're an idiot.

(torrent sites aren't illegal)
It's exactly dumb fucks like you that make this industry 75% less profitable than it is.

How exactly do you think distributing copyrighted content can ever be legal? It's good for the end user.. free shit.. its bad for THE INDUSTRY. This is an INDUSTRY board.

Retard.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:10 AM   #43
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lol tell that to the hundreds of court cases finding them illegal and having them shutdown..
You are wrong. Internet is filled with torrent sites (unlike CP sites that get shut down very fast), and there is nothing that could be done about torrent sites because they use P2P protocol (site owners aren't responsible for anything) and it is impossible to track down millions of P2P users and sue them.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:13 AM   #44
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How exactly do you think distributing copyrighted content can ever be legal?
Torrent sites do not distribute copyrighted content, individual internet users do.


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Old 04-17-2007, 04:14 AM   #45
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AFF's been fucking me for about 8-9 years good and hard and i'm happy about it. Really happy about it.

they've always been good to me.

does that make me gay?
No it would make you a spineless cunt who people shouldn't do business with.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:19 AM   #46
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You are wrong. Internet is filled with torrent sites (unlike CP sites that get shut down very fast), and there is nothing that could be done about torrent sites because they use P2P protocol (site owners aren't responsible for anything) and it is impossible to track down millions of P2P users and sue them.

So you'd promote CP too if it was legal?
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:30 AM   #47
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You are wrong. Internet is filled with torrent sites (unlike CP sites that get shut down very fast), and there is nothing that could be done about torrent sites because they use P2P protocol (site owners aren't responsible for anything) and it is impossible to track down millions of P2P users and sue them.
all the major torrent sites had to run away and hide their servers in countries with dumbshit lawyers and fucked up judges.

Torrent sites are illegal in a lot of countries.

"Hiya, I know where you can buy a stolen rolex" If you were doing this, it would be illegal.

"Hiya, I know where you can buy stolen porn" This SHOULD also be illegal.

This is why I hate shakula so much. People supporting porn torrents should get a ban from the board IMO
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:35 AM   #48
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Holy shit, you can download illegal stuff on BitTorrent?
C'mon smokey, this is very 2003, even for you :|
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:35 AM   #49
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Torrent sites do not distribute copyrighted content, individual internet users do.





Then why did Napster and BitTorrent get slammed.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:51 AM   #50
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hahaha it is pathetic, truly pathetic. targetting websites by seo now is pretty pointless, especially the big ones like realitycash, naughty america and bangbros. 8/10 results are the videos from the site on bittorrent.

p.s. ntm keep out of things u dont understand.
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