PHP versus ASP?

[Vegas Ken]

I had this conversation with a webmaster yesterday. I was hoping to get the thoughts of the experts here at GFY. What are the advantages or disadvantages of each?

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Seriously, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on PHP and ASP.

[Angelo22]

PHP all the way
advantages: i know how to use it

ASP: ive never really used it
=D

[psili]

Since ~60-70%% of the web's being served by apache, I'll continue sticking with PHP and open source like languages.

I'm sure you can run .NET / asp on apache, but why would anyone want to do that?

[BlueWire]

Advantages of ASP and other .NET products over PHP:

- Development time tends to be faster
- Easy communication w/ desktop apps build in .NET

Advantages PHP over ASP:

- More PHP Developers Worldwide
- Lower costs involved (open source)
- The server environment it runs on is more stable
- The language itself is more stable (When coded correctly)

Final Conclusion:

- Database driven apps that are only web-based should be built in PHP or Rails or CGI. (My preference being PHP & Rails. But CGI still has a little life left in her. Rails is blazing fast btw but coders for it are expensive and hard to find).

- Online apps that have a desktop app component should explore using ASP and the .NET line of products.


Hit me up on ICQ if you want to discuss further

[drjones]

Originally Posted by BlueWire

Advantages of ASP and other .NET products over PHP:

- Development time tends to be faster
- Easy communication w/ desktop apps build in .NET

Advantages PHP over ASP:

- More PHP Developers Worldwide
- Lower costs involved (open source)
- The server environment it runs on is more stable
- The language itself is more stable (When coded correctly)

Final Conclusion:

- Database driven apps that are only web-based should be built in PHP or Rails or CGI. (My preference being PHP & Rails. But CGI still has a little life left in her. Rails is blazing fast btw but coders for it are expensive and hard to find).

- Online apps that have a desktop app component should explore using ASP and the .NET line of products.


Hit me up on ICQ if you want to discuss further

All accurate. I would throw Python in the mix too, using a framework like Django (http://django-project.com). Rails like features, but with Python in the background.. a very mature language with a huge community of developers, much more than Ruby. That might change if Rails momentum continues, or it may already have. Django/Python doesnt suffer the same deployment/server setup and speed issues that currently plague Rails, IMHO. It's apache integration is extremely mature, tried and true.

Back to the original post.. I would stick to using open source tools. Its really a no brainer, unless you have some specific requirement that only proprietary software can fill.

[BlueWire]

Originally Posted by drjones

All accurate. I would throw Python in the mix too, using a framework like Django (http://django-project.com). Rails like features, but with Python in the background.. a very mature language with a huge community of developers, much more than Ruby. That might change if Rails momentum continues, or it may already have. Django/Python doesnt suffer the same deployment/server setup and speed issues that currently plague Rails, IMHO. It's apache integration is extremely mature, tried and true.

Back to the original post.. I would stick to using open source tools. Its really a no brainer, unless you have some specific requirement that only proprietary software can fill.

Agreed on Python. We pretty much exclusively use PHP for database driven processes at Bluewire

[fuzebox]

IMO unless you've got a boardroom full of directors to impress, there is no reason to choose ASP over an open source solution.

[Humpy Leftnut]

The one thing ASP has going for it is easy integration with other .NET stuff, as posted earlier.

[k0nr4d]

Well, let me put my view on it this way...

When i worked full time for a company locally here, I used to take notes and write up documents in MS Word. That shit crashed on me so much, i eventually got so fed up i started using paper instead. Paper doesn't crash.

If i can't trust Microsoft with a simple task like storing a to-do list for the day, how can i trust it with my work?

[nnweb]

i started learning C# and im switching all my PHP apps to it. I love everything about it. SQL Server blows mysql out of the water too.

[drjones]

BTW, php works w/ Mono, the open source implementation of .NET. You can easily hook php or python into Mono apps, and typical .NET apps should work with Mono as well.

[footmonkey]

I've used both but if I have a choice it has to be PHP.

[psili]

Originally Posted by BlueWire

Rails.....

Am I a geek if I say ruby & rails gives me wood, yet whenever I hear, read or say "ruby on rails" I lose my wood?

I fucking love that framework, but I can't stand the moniker they gave it.